Review by compuguybna - Location: Nashville, Davidson, TN, USA
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There are NO good points to state about Hughesnet, Pure trouble! All ECC can say in defense is --we do not guarantee speeds--! Slow speeds, Clueless India Tech Support, Throttling, Expensive
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Hear all the issues with Gen4 . . . . New bird wasn't the solution I guess?
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Just heard a co-worker had hughesnet installed on 7/23/12. I told he should have asked me first. Yesterday 7/25/12, two days after install, he was cussing Hughesnet and his blood pressure was up! He cancelled TODAY 7/26, and told Hughes to come get the equipment off his property!
I told him about wireless broadband, and now he's getting 20GB off a Verizon tower for $59.
I wonder if GEN4 is gonna be the same? If they dont raise the caps and allowances, there will be no hope.......
Problems? Here's your best THREE contacts! Send 1 email to all three.
You'll get a call!
Complaints can be address to : bbbdc@hughes.net (Handles BBB complaints) or
(ECC) executivecustomercare@hughes.net or
william.smouse@hns.com (my last contact)
Just gotta laugh at the new advertising schemes from Hughesnet.
I still keep getting advertising and emails from them wanting me to "come back" to their service. Not in this lifetime I say.
Here's Hughesnet TOP 10 reasons to Try/Use their Service.
1. It's available wherever you live **Ok, they got me on this one**
2. It's super-fast. ***NOT*** why do they call this broadband anyway? just cause of the inherent latency...
3. It works with your computer. **Ok, they got me on this one**
for pc's anyway.
4. No dial-up necessary **No brainer, it uses a satellite, not a POTS line, however it can be as SLOW AS DIALUP!
5. We install it, so you have nothing to worry about ***BUT you want to charge truck-roll if SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN, even within the warranty period***
6. It's secure. **Ok, they got me on this one**, but DOES NOT play well with "secured sites**https**
7. We constantly monitor the network to ensure better service
***yes, so we can find you and throttle you if you actually "USE* the service***
8. Excellent customer service **WRONG** If you enjoy banging your head against your desk talking with India...***
9. Hughes is a leader in the industry, **BUT** not necessarily the only satellite provider.
10. Hughes is a trusted name and provider.....***Trusted name doesn't necessarily mean better service***
AND the fact that they have changed all the plan names (and if I see right, deleted a plan).
BASIC (1mbps) 200mb day
Power 150 (1.5mbps) 300mb day
Power 200 (2.0mbps) 400mb day
Being greedy, Hughes states on ALL plans you can UPGRADE your daily allowance by 50mb a day for only $10 a month.
Actually the daily allowances have DROPPED. Didn't the 1.6 plan (obviously dropped). have a 425 or 525mb allowance?
So, on the Power 200 plan (2.0mbps plan), you can get a WHOPPING 450mb a day for only $119.99! WOW! Is that value or what?
Does this apply to new users only? or have download allowance dropped for current users?
WTF???
UPDATE 9/21/10. Thankful the Broadband GODS have answered. Have High speed cable internet now.
20mbps download! Thank goodness I can download almost 9gigs in one day if I prefer, instead of the disgusting 425MB I had to deal with on Hughes at 1mpbs or less! ! !
I've had TWO Hughesnet Accounts in six months, BOTH of them turned out to be disasters. The First was plagued with billing and service errors to start with. They billed my credit card 503.86 on my first bill because they said I put in an order for a "purchase". WRONG! The order simply stated lease. I had to send them the original order to prove it.
A month later, they got it 1/2 right, but it was a continual battle with billing. I eventually had to change credit card #'s to get them to stop billing me. For the first 30 days, the service was as good as expected. I was on the HOME plan, which provide "UP TO" 1mbps of service. During the first 30 days, you are in a "customer satisfaction stage", where you can cancel without penalty, return the equipment at your expense, and not be obligated any longer. Your fee's you have paid so far are NOT REFUNDABLE (other than disputing it through your credit card company). After your 30 days, and after your SECOND invoice generates, WHAMMY! you are at their mercy.
Their famous excuse after that is "SPEEDS ARE NOT GUARANTEED". If you have to call tech support, its an endless cycle of running speed tests, and talking to someone in India. Billing support is in the Phillipines. With so many issues on this account, and after writing the Better Business Bureau of Maryland, my account was handed over to the corporate office (Executive Customer Care).
I give those people credit, they did TRY to help me with the issues, but given that the NOCC (network operations) was directly controlling speeds at that time thru throttling and flow control, ECC and myself that this battle should end (it was stated by tech support.. "your system is running fine. There is nothing else we can do...If you are not happy with the service, either "accept it with its Flaws" or cancel it. WHAT??? They admit their service is flawed? Cancelled it. More stupid on my part, we decided to sign up for a totally new account. New install, new equipment, new start...
Once again, EVERYTHING went perfect for the first 30 days. I signed up for the PRO + package that time which gave a tad bit more speed, plus more daily usage (425mb)... Consistently, everyday, 1.5mbps speeds which was 95% of the plans output. GREAT I was thinking. 30 days passed. Second Invoice. Speeds went to around 300-400K....then comes the excuses... "You are in peak time usage", you have exceeded your usage, you're in FAP, the weather at your gateway is BAD.
Tech support did admit once (the guy in India) that there WAS a problem, but it would have to be diagnosed by engineering. Again, and endless cycle of speed tests (in two occassions, put me over my daily usage, FAP, which they were unwilling to release).... So be well aware, if you sign up for a Hughesnet Account with a HN9000 modem package, you are in for a very long battle. While you may think you're crusing right along at first, wait til you're 30 days are up, and you're in a contract. TWO TIMES in 6 months taught me a lesson! NEVER trust these people. they will NEVER admit that network operations gives you what ever speeds they want, whenever they want.
The corporate office's response to my second series of complaints was directly from the office of the president and stated """We will not go through this again. Everyone just got your letter today. I called your mother and left a message. There is an open ticket with Tier 4, if they can't resolve I recommend she cancel immediately. PLEASE refrain from sending e-mails to the customer service group. I am sorry she is, or you are not happy with the service. You and I had an agreement on this next account. No complaints to ECC, and we do not guarantee speeds."""
their famous slogan "do not guarantee speeds" just doesn't cut it on a 79.99 a month plan that rates at 1.6mbps, but only providing 300-400K. This is a TRUE story, and I have no doubt all of these others are true in their own respect at well. FORWARNED if you are thinking about Hughes.
Complaints can be address to : bbbdc@hughes.net or
executivecustomercare@hughes.net or
william.smouse@hns.com
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UPDATE: Many forum users have challenged my posts and experiences......
YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY ! ! ! Think what you want...
Hughesnet just didn't get it in TN. Read any posts from any user in TN, Hughesnet screwed us (or still screws ya if you're stupid enough to stay).
Perhaps users in other states have different/varied results.
I know what I experienced, documented, and dealt with.
I am so glad I'm not a part of the nightmare.
I posted the notes only to share with others. If you don't agree or wish dispute the points I made, than this is sole your option.
thank you, i'm finished in this forum. If you signup with Hughesnet, good luck with the consequences you will experience later on.
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cary
Anon
2010-Apr-26 9:14 am
hughesnet I was told by Hughesnet the problem is with windows internet explorer 8, that i need to use a different browser,so i did and it didnt work or fix the problem eather Ohwell 2 years and there GONE never again | |
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ernliz
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2010-Apr-27 5:23 pm
Re: your bad experience....Sounds a lot like several Clearwire (ooops, Clear) stories we've read here before! | |
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tim h
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2010-Apr-30 7:26 pm
displeaseded comstmerI called and ordered hughs net on the 4/16/2010, they installed the system on 4/23/2010. they got it up and running about 5:00pm- from 4/23/2010 till 4/28/2010 I had contacted hughs net about 5 times because their where web sites that i could not log into because of the IP address they have. I even spent nearly an hour with an tech. on live chate trying to work this out! the package i chose was 79:99 a month then they told me if i won't a papper bill that was going to cost me 5:99 more that brought my bill up to 85:98, but what really put the iceing on the cake is they said i would have to pay 10:00to 11:00 dollars more a month just to be able to log into the web site i was trying to get in, they bassically said i didn't need to go into them anyways. But if i would have had them to change my IP address my total bill would have been nearly 100.00 amonth that is rediculouse. so, canceled my service around 8:00am on 4/28/201.Now they tell people that you can try the service for thrity days and cancelle it and it doesn't cost you a thing that is a lye, They withdrew 429.97 from my account, and all they say i am entittled back is 200.00 they are makeing a killing! If anyone that reads this before they order hughs net check out verizon wireless. i ordered the samething through them it cost me 49.99 for the modem and 59.99 a month for the service. Like I said the same package through hughs net cost you 79.99+5.99 for a papper bill, then 10.00 to 11.00 dollars more to get a IP address that does not restrict you from certain sites, total cost through hughs net for me, nearly a 100.00 a month. where as vzw cost is 59.99 guess what it works cause i'm useing it to write this reveiw | |
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warning
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2010-May-4 2:08 pm
you will regred hughesnetdon't get hughsnet i wish i could get something els it rarely works they need to fix this problem im so irritated with it. im trying to run a business. its so hard to update my site when i keep getting error pages and could not establish a connection. as soon as i run into something els im switching. | |
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starcicle
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2010-May-5 9:59 am
Re: you will regret hughesnetI totally agree. Unfortunately where I am (only 30 miles out from the white house) in Virginia, Hughes Net is the only service available to me. I have experienced every possible excuse, error, frustration possible. They even sent me a NEW modem that wouldn't work and charged ME to send it back.
The second a new provider is available. But at this time, NOTHING is. | |
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2010-Jul-30 2:12 pm
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Re: you will regret hughesnetHow do you ftp your sites? I was fine for 6 months then Hughesnet changed a setting and ftp keeps timing out connection - my business is at a standstill! | |
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Re: you will regret hughesnetEAT THIS Hughesnet. The broadband gods have answered! Now have cable Internet. | |
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Re: you will regret hughesnetHey, Compuguy, I had pretty much the same experience as you did with HN, and I resolved it in pretty much the same manner. I did speak with ECC, the guy was very nice and did everything he could, including sending a tech out to screw with my dish and try a different bird, all to no avail. He wound up canceling my contract and refunding me $400 of the $700 I paid to upgrade to the 7000 system, which I thought was fairly decent of him. Of course, it didn't hurt that I threatened to 'lose' the billing credit card if they didn't resolve this.
BTW, would it be asking too much of some of you posters (not you, CGuy) to use a spell checker or dictionary? Some of these posts read like they were written by 4th graders. Little errors like confusing "they're" with "their" and "too, two and to" and outright spelling errors make your posts a bit difficult to read. Thanks. | |
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said by compuguybna:EAT THIS Hughesnet. The broadband gods have answered! Now have cable Internet.
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HughesnetAll you do is complain..
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Re: HughesnetComplaining was the only way to get rid of this dreadful service and out of a contract!! said by yolarry:All you do is complain.. Chill out | |
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HNSUX to yolarry
Anon
2010-Jun-25 11:16 am
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Dude, chill out? Apparently youve never had hughsnet, and dont know just how terrible it is. I'm a gamer who just moved in the hills, had digital cable, it was workin perfecly, i move now i got this piss poor excuse for an internet provider. Im gettin like 1300 ms of latency, and thats on a good day, normally its between 2000 and 5000, sometimes higher. | |
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Re: HughesnetWho are you tellin' to chill out? said by HNSUX :
Dude, chill out? Apparently youve never had hughsnet, and dont know just how terrible it is. | |
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invisible1 to HNSUX
Anon
2010-Jul-3 2:11 pm
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It's satellite internet. You're not going to get under 1300 ms of latency because your data is beamed to space and back. | |
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concearned
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2010-Nov-2 12:17 pm
hughesnetI just ordered hughesnet they are putting it in tomarrow i am nervous now about what i am reading but we have no other options i have called everyone and no one offers service out here in bfe tennessee down in this holler we get dial up only and it is 26kbps with excellerator do you think the hughesnet will at least be better than what i have? just lookin for info thx | |
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jojo
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2010-Nov-4 2:49 pm
Re: hughesnetit is slightly better than dial up, but if you have any other option go for it. for the basic package, there is a 200mb bandwidth limit per day. that means that you can only watch maybe 30 mins of video and then it cuts you off the service for 24 hours. sometimes windows updates alone will use all 200mb and then it shuts off the internet the whole day. they say its unlimited from 3-6am eastern time, but its so inconvenient a time that i bearly took advantage. it is slow internet though. just got cable again after two years with hughsnet. could not be happier to have them out of my life. oh and they didnt come to take the freakin heavyass satelite down. i literally just finished taking it off the roof, scared i was gonna fall, and ran in to fume and write this scathing review. f- for hughsnet..they just want your money. i have twenty days to return the satelite (which i have to pay for shipping) or get charged another $300. theyre such dicks. hope this saves ppl the headache. i hear internet phones like the 3g, can make your phone a wireless hotspot and this makes more sense to use cause you get a phone and internet. i heard though they just put bandwith limits on the iphone so no unlimited downloading... take your pick but i would go with something else definately. | |
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said by concearned :I just ordered hughesnet they are putting it in tomarrow i am nervous now about what i am reading but we have no other options i have called everyone and no one offers service out here in bfe tennessee down in this holler we get dial up only and it is 26kbps with excellerator do you think the hughesnet will at least be better than what i have? just lookin for info thx [/BQUOTE
I am not sure exactly what the thirty day thing was about but I saw a few complain about it back when the 9000 systems first came out but I havn't seen anyone complain about it in a year or so. I upgraded to the 9000 from my hn7000s business system back in June and I still get 2.1Mb/s down and 250kb/s up consistantly. There is latency of course but you will only have problems with that if you play shooter or mmorpg games and you will also have trouble with telephone or vpn systems of course. You can play mmorpg games but you have to adapt somewhat to the latency and be willing to just log off and come back later if the lag gets to great cause it usually doesn't last to long and some games like EQ2 and regular EverQuest do a pretty good job of managing server latency which makes those games playable pretty much full time. | |
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Duramax08
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2010-Nov-15 11:09 am
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Re: Can you tellWe waited over TWO years here . . . We gave up on AT&T, then suddenly CHARTER expanded. $29.99 a month for 20mbps is a dream! If I'd just been smart to read all the reviews before I got Hughesnet...it would never have happened. We still got ugly anchors on our roof where they didn't deinstall all of the equipment (of course, i'm glad the roof doesn't leak though). | |
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Duramax08
Premium Member
2010-Nov-15 12:13 pm
Re: Can you tellIve been waiting for 6 years with AT&T and gave up after they said DSL was available but it really wasnt. Hope some day TWC will expand a mile more out to reach us but I see no hope in site. Guess wait and see what that broadband plan but it doesnt seem to promising as of now. | |
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Re: Can you tellhave you tried 3G service thru cell towers?
Do you have Verizon or Sprint service in your area?
After I left ABUSENET(lol), I went to 3G, We have both Verizon and Sprint here.
You can get about 1mbps service for about $40 a month (you buy the device). | |
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Re: Can you tellYeah I JB my iphone so im getting like 2 down 1 up which isnt that bad since im still on the unlimited plan. It does the job but would love to have a landline one day. | |
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zeddlar
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2011-Aug-23 11:46 am
Not so bad | |
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Re: Not so badTake into consideration the number of pissed off people vs. happy people with hughesnet.
Its sort out of ratio.
Good for you if you're getting those speeds! i'm sure its not consistent by any means! | |
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Re: Not so badsaid by compuguybna:Take into consideration the number of pissed off people vs. happy people with hughesnet. "Its sort out of ratio". Good for you if you're getting those speeds! i'm sure its not consistent by any means! Guy, ironic the complainers (ratio) are the most vocal one's as with any product review across the internet a fact of life. Us happy people are content when there is no other choice that you lucked into and I'm happy for you. We all wish the same. Politely asked, are you here to rub your speed in ? Because it doesn't work for me to be impressed or jealous. Never will I sell out my country life for any reason. ~I deal with the cards dealt to me ~ and go with life. Yes, times change and am becoming very proud of Hughes after coming back 18 months ago with the 9000 and happy 6 weeks ago my speed doubled+ with Consistently with only an occasional 1 minute slow down to PAST normal 1.7M pro plan plus at $84 (sales tax) so my TMZ log of 3,546 tests would be nick picking... » testmy.net/quickstats/marsh_0xPlease notice what you get with WB, should you look at the proof in the pudding. Remember TMZ tests a bit different than other sites, btw the slow tests posted using that other site (forgot the name) is a pure comedy with my testing, shows such wrong low speeds haha Hughes shows 3.4-3.5 almost always not to be consider a conspiracy fake test haha Use a 100MB file from a "dedicated server" like File Hippo and I get 393KB so simple math times 8 = 3.144M Now the past can/was to be true, I started with the 6000, 7000, 7000s Cancelled 2 years ago with the 7000s when for the last 2 months my speed dropped to a disgusting IRONIC at EXACTLY 3:01 pm cst until slowing recovering at 11pm cst. Yep, the Indians spoke excellent English always, would not transfer me to higher support so left for Wild Blue through Dish Network, yep WB was great for 3 months and then went downhill with speed, they said no penalty to let me out of contract. But remain because I can. Sorry for not being very active in posting here, but just had to. Rant is over... Marsh | |
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Charter was the best thing that ever happened to this small town....Still amazing how many HUGHESNET satellites you still see up with no transmitter........ | |
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Tweakbl
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2011-Aug-28 12:57 pm
Re: Not so badWell do like I have done and give the Dishes to the kids and say....Make a shield out of it son,here is a can of spray paint....go kill a dragon. | |
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Re: Not so badDude, you have been away so long you don't even know what you are talking about with HN anymore. Yes it used to be terrible and it still is not great by no means but the speeds I listed are the norm now whether you believe it or not and since I have posted that they have also doubled the speeds on the KU side of things as well. People are regularly getting at least twice the plan speeds except during the free time and at the beggining of the free time for about the first three hours then you get around your plan speed while it is crowded and then it go's back up as peoples downloads finish in the last three hours. Also they now have a forum with active techs and represenatives and they are going to work on the FAP next.
As far as seeing far more complaints than compliments, that argument doesn't fool anyone for the simple reason it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if things are working fine you don't go looking for help and thus 99% (well probably actually higher) never even see these forums unless someone tells them about it and most of the rest do have problems, google those problems and wala here they are to ask for help and more often than not vent after reading other peoples posts like this review. So the truth is that if you could get HN to run a poll on thier home page I would bet that you would find hands down and overwhelming majority of customers would say they are happy with the service they have.
To keep bumping a bad review 2 years after the fact is wrong in my book and I don't really believe BBR should alow it after it gets 6 months old or so. | |
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Re: Not so badsaid by zeddlar:Dude, you have been away so long you don't even know what you are talking about with HN anymore. Yes it used to be terrible and it still is not great by no means but the speeds I listed are the norm now whether you believe it or not and since I have posted that they have also doubled the speeds on the KU side of things as well. People are regularly getting at least twice the plan speeds except during the free time and at the beggining of the free time for about the first three hours then you get around your plan speed while it is crowded and then it go's back up as peoples downloads finish in the last three hours. Also they now have a forum with active techs and represenatives and they are going to work on the FAP next.
As far as seeing far more complaints than compliments, that argument doesn't fool anyone for the simple reason it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if things are working fine you don't go looking for help and thus 99% (well probably actually higher) never even see these forums unless someone tells them about it and most of the rest do have problems, google those problems and wala here they are to ask for help and more often than not vent after reading other peoples posts like this review. So the truth is that if you could get HN to run a poll on thier home page I would bet that you would find hands down and overwhelming majority of customers would say they are happy with the service they have.
To keep bumping a bad review 2 years after the fact is wrong in my book and I don't really believe BBR should alow it after it gets 6 months old or so. quoted for truth | |
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Still So Pathetic even an Email and facebook only user cxls.Just heard a co-worker had hughesnet installed on 7/23/12. I told he should have asked me first. Yesterday 7/25/12, two days after install, he was cussing Hughesnet and his blood pressure was up! He cancelled TODAY 7/26, and told Hughes to come get the equipment off his property!
I told him about wireless broadband, and now he's getting 20GB off a Verizon tower for $59.
I wonder if GEN4 is gonna be the same? If they dont raise the caps and allowances, there will be no hope.......
Problems? Here's your best THREE contacts! Send 1 email to all three. You'll get a call! | |
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Re: Still So Pathetic even an Email and facebook only user cxls.I had Hughes.net and before that it was called Direcway for about 5 years. My wife liked the browsing speed versus the 16.400 baud dial up speed... Downloads were great. The problem with this service and it was fully disclosed..but frustrating...the FAP policy and the upload packets. Very very frustrating to a gamer who lived in a rural area that had 0 options for quality broadband. The slowest cable modem or DSL connection will be much less frustrating than Hughes.net | |
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Contacts at Hughes.Posted this a while back(but it keeps getting deleted), but for any of you that are having issues that you can't get resolved, contact Corporate using these email contacts.
bbbdc@hughes.net executivecustomercare@hughes.net william.smouse@hns.com (office of president).
Hope these help and someone can make use of them.
(these were posted on other sites including facebook, but HUGHES keeps deleting them). | |
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