| Review by natedj |
member for 11.9 years, 5959 visits, last login: a few hours ago
updated 1.5 years ago
- $42 per month
- "Time Warners unwillingness to solve issues"
- "Great under optimal conditions - TW unwillingness to solve issues"
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Time Warner Cable 8037445646
Time Warner Cable 8037445646
Bellsouth DSL has been good to me as it introduced me to the broadband environment, only a few lost connections, and it works. Its nothing to brag about
nothing to complain about. But I cant help but notice all the Ads, emails and friends using other broadband ISPs, and getting 2-3 times the download speeds as myself for practically the same cost
So canceling Bellsouth DSL was not an easy thing for me to do after six years, and its not because Im emotionally tied to my email address. For me to get the ($32.00) DSL price I have with Bellsouth (1.5 D/L & 256 U/L), I had to get the full service landline package that included a basic line and various add-ons to a tune of $40+ monthly, so coupled with the DSL bill, the absolute lowest my Bellsouth bill would be is $80+ After all the taxes and fees and premiums were added. Bellsouth was also my Local-long distance, long distance & international call carrier (they make the bundle stuff look so attractive) so it was clear that they had all five fingers wrapped around my neck. I tried giving up only the DSL and getting another broadband ISP but that would break the Bellsouth fellowship and the discounts I was getting from having bundled services would be revoked. I even thought about giving up the Bellsouth landline but that would automatically mean giving up the DSL which I cannot have, so I had to stay put. No matter which way I try to work it with other Broadband ISPs, the math never worked out in my favor.
May 5, 2006
I stumbled onto an EarthLink offer, 5mb download & 384 upload for $29.95 a month, but then goes up to $41.95 after the intro period. The speeds sounds good but the math didnt, because Ill still have to pay Bellsouth for a landline in addition to the EarthLink internet ... But wait, EarthLink has a bundle offer which includes the Speeds mentioned and Home phone service (VOIP) unlimited long distance and international calling for a fraction of Bellsouths price, all for $39.95 intro price and $59.95 thereafter. Wow, the speeds would be better and the math works, better and cheaper all around
VOIP here I come. I placed the order with EarthLink via online sales chat and per the conversation, my broadband would be connected within 2-3 days and the phone service would take about 3-4 weeks, cool, its good they let me know all this up front so Ill know what to expect.
May 10, 2006
The guys came to the house and per the telephone call with him, he seemed like a rookie. I was at the job at the time so my wife called me up and told me they were there. I spoke to the installer over the phone because he wanted to know where my cable line was and where I wanted my Broadband jack to be. I told him to install it in my computer room; upon entering the room he said you already have a broadband network sir
. Why do you want this one? For a second there I thought that he was going to talk me out of getting EarthLink cable. He didnt recognize that my existing service was DSL but to avoid a winded explanation, I told him that Ill be able to use VOIP more economically with my new service. Later my wife informed me that he was unable to access the utility pole and therefore did not do the install. He said Ill have to call the power company (since the pole that the cable lines are attached to belongs to them) and request that they clear away all the brush that has grown up around it, so they can access the pole and install the cable lines. So I called the power company and they came out
. They came out twice because they really didnt see a problem. Then the guy from the power company called me an explained that they will only clear foliage if its affecting the power lines which is clearly not the case here, and he suspect that the Time Warner Cable installers where just trying to get out of a little manual labor. So Im back to square one again
I called up Time Warner to reschedule a second try at installing my cable.
The day before my second scheduled installation, I got an email from earthlink congratulating me of my new install and beckoning me to comment on my new service. The nerve of those people, No, I shouldnt say that, I should calm down and call them in a civilized manner, with any luck someone with half a brain might answer the phone and who knows, I might even be helped. So I dialed Earthlink and explained the ordeal. I could not get a answer as to why I got that email but I was told to ignore it and wait for my installer.
May 16, 2006
Earthlink came out to the house (second visit) to install my high-speed connection. The lady from Time Warner Cable said the same thing that the other guys said about the cable pole in the back yard being buried by the brush. She said that there was no possible way for her to get down there. She also said that she would do what she could, and that her boss is coming to do the rest. Later on, the lady left. She says that they could not get back there. They will contact the building owner behind us and get back in touch with us, if all else fails, they have to get their bucket truck for the job. She said that everything inside is already connected, but that she could not leave the modem with us. When the guys come back which will be whenever they call us (another day), they will bring the modem back to us. She gave us the Earthlink kit and my wife signed a paper, that she gave me a copy of. It is just a paper saying that they came out along with the price that will be on the next statement balance -29.95.
May 21, 2006
I received a call from Earthlink asking me if I would like to proceed in setting up my true voice account. I told the representative that I would like to have my high speed connected before I have my true voice connected. I then gave her a brief history of my installation woes. She then informed me that the reason for her calling relates to an issue of me canceling my high-speed installation. Apparently, the Time Warner installation crew incorrectly informed Earthlink of my willingness to cancel their service, which was very contrary to my wishes. They noted on their file that I had lost interest and wished to cancel. So now, I have to inform Earthlink, and their installers to proceed with my installation as had planned. This installation was supposed to take two to three days to complete. I am now going on my third week without service. The rep said that she will remove the cancellation and reorder the service so all I have to do is wait for earthlink to call me to schedule a time to come out to my place again
maybe the third time will be the charm.
May 24, 2006
Three days has gone by, still no sign of earthlink / Time Warner install crew, no calls, no emails no nothing. So I took it upon myself to call them and verify that my service was not cancelled and that Im still in queue for an installation. Well the rep I spoke with at Earthlink said that my service was cancelled (still). I was in traffic, on my cell phone at the time of the call and was trying to refrain from easing my fingers through the phone and trying to grasp at someones neck. I felt like yelling and crying at the same time. I began to stutter
trying to find the right words, so that whatever was going to come out of my mouth wont make the rep hang up on me. But the rep interjected; he said that he was going to reinstate the order for service (which I thought was already done last time I called) the conversation ended by him saying that Time Warner will be contacting me to set up a time to come out
. Dejavu. I said ok. Hung up with him and promptly call Time Warner to test the waters. They had me on file and claimed that they tried to contact me but was unsuccessful, yeah right! At any rate, they said that theyll come out on Wednesday 31st so if I dont slit my own wrist before then Ill live to see what kind of monkey wrench will be thrown in the mix.
May 31, 2006
Well you guessed it, today was a No-show. Maybe they are trying to wear me out hoping Ill lose interest. Im motivated, Im dedicated, and Im a pest. Even though I know its after hours I called to see what kind of Cinderella story they are going to try to pawn off on me. So I called Earthlink and spoke to Christine. I gave her the abbreviated version of this saga and in the middle of this, a rep from Earthlink called me on my other line. So I figured the somebody is batting for me over there, so with a phone stuck in each ear, I was trying to get some answers, to no avail, nevertheless one rep promised to call back then hung up while the other rep transferred me to TWC to reschedule yet another installation. So Im talking to this Time Warner guy and he is kind of puzzled how Ive been overlooked for my installation even though his computer shows that what Im saying is right, then my phone rings again, its Brian the guy from Earthlink who promised to call back, this guy should be employee of the month, anyway, I wasnt willing to do the phone in each ear dog and pony show this time, so I put one phone on speaker and had the Earthlink rep eavesdrop on the dialogue I had with the TWC rep. The TWC rep stated that he will look into the matter and call me back with an update as to why the tech did not show up and when Ill get a installer to come by again, I dont know how true this is, after all if been lied to once or twice
no make that three or four time already, but lucky for me I had Brian as a witness who made note of the conversation and He too said he will follow up on the status of my install.
June 6, 2006
Well, I feel like Im at the stage when you know theres no Santa clause, but deep down on the inside you wish that the big white beard guy would show up with all the goodies you had on your Christmas list
. Well, I my case just the cable installation. Thats all I ask, Im not asking for free service, Im willing to pay for their broadband service so hurry up already, I just want somebody to take my money.
Anyway, I was at work and my wife called, she said that the Tech looked at my computer and said that we dont have enough ram to handle broadband. (Funny we have DSL broadband current at the house now)
My stress-Ohmmeter shot through the roof, I figured that hes just saying that to my wife because she doesnt know better and he can leave without getting my service hooked up. I felt my body becoming tense and I started stuttering as I squeezed the phone into the side of my face, I think I need to have that treated or something. Anyway, I took a deep breath, the calm before the storm, and I ask her to let me speak to the tech. He came on the phone and startle rambling about my computer being insufficient and that it wont handle the broadband effectively. I ask him what are the requirements, he said 128 MB of ram and I only have 100 MB. I said no, what youre looking at is 1 gig of ram, eight times your minimum requirements. He said no, it says here 100
.. then he pause
.then he began to back pedal, uhh
ohm okay, Ive never seen a computer with that much ram before, thats my first time seeing a gig of ram. At that point I knew that I had to be there for the install. I left the job and raced home only to find him outside at the crime scene, yes, the same spot where the pole is located, looking up at it. I introduced myself and clued him in on my ongoing saga. He rattled off some possible plans of attack, access from property in the back, or bucket truck, and then said hell have to call his supervisor. He used his two way Nextel so I was privileged with hearing the conversation. Well to make a long story short (too late right) his supervisor, remembered the address and the problem, why shouldnt he, hes been here twice before. His supervisor mention the same things they discussed before, but he never followed up on it, basically my problem was swept under the rug with hopes of it going away. The tech told me that theyll have to access the property behind me, which was always locked or get the Power Company to clear the overgrown foliage, which they have said no to earlier on, and he left my house after that. So I had to take matters into my hands. Later that evening after I came home from work, I fired up the chain saw, grabbed the loppers, gloves and jacket for skin protection and hopped over my back fence like cable starved addict looking for a fix. Yes, I trespassed and butchered the natural greenery behind my property. About an hour later, a nine foot wide path was cleared to the pole. I called Earthlink again the next day. Went through the painful foreplay of navigating through the menus, phone #, mothers maiden name, last four social security digits
..Blab blab bla. Then got them to reschedule yet another install. June 12th.
June 12, 2006
Well a guy from Time Warner Cable (a third party installer hired by Time Warner) came out to my house yesterday. He said that TWC are in the progress of updating lines / equipment and they have a lot going on right now. He got the His ladder from the truck and connected my line to the pole, mission accomplished in no time flat. Then he came in the house installed the modem and I was up and running. The speeds are the fastest I've ever seen. There was no actual configuring, he just connected the wires waited about 30 seconds for it to detect and I was online. He also left an envelope with the Earthlink kit which had some literature and an installation CD; he said that in installation CD was not a necessity. I will not be installing it on my PC.
This guy was not a Time Warner employee and he is all familiar with how they treat their customers. He apologized to me for having to do all the brush clearing myself, but he said they are like that (time Warner) They expect a trouble free installation so they won't have to break a sweat, anything outside of that and the install will be swept under the rug ... if they don't cancel your order altogether.
I called Bellsouth a few hours later and cancelled my DSL service. I told them the reason for leaving and they offered my (3) free months of service to stay, but I declined. Then I was told that the DSL will be disconnected with 24 hours.
Hopefully I can get the Phone service without any hiccups now that the cable has been installed.
I will stay with TWC up until something better comes along.... My quest is to have fast cheap and reliable Phone and internet connection, even though it is a rare, or even impossible for that combination (fast, cheap and reliable) I'm remaining optimistic
Aug. 27, 2007
Wow that was a fast year. I got an IM from "System" asking me I if have any updates to my review. Not knowing what they were talking about, I followed the link and reread my Time Warner review. Oh that review ... that was a stressful time of my life, you can tell by my typos and sentence structure that I was under some stress. Some might not know it, but I titled the review with TWC phone number because I grew tired of loosing it, and since this site is my home page I figured why not.
I've had absolutely no problems from my broadband service from EarthLink (which is actually through TWC). My VOIP from EarthLink was a billing nightmare. I signed up for the service May 5th 2006 and on July 27th 2007 I finally got my billing straight with them. I would post a brief summary of the events that led up to this day, let me gather my thoughts.
My VOIP started online with a sales chat, and it turned out to be my saving grace.
Wait, I think I still have a copy of it.. Hold on.
Thank you for choosing our secure EarthLink Sales chat. All agents are currently assisting other customers. Thank you for your patience. You are number '1' of '1' customers in line. Your estimated wait is '0' minutes and '4' seconds.
Hello and welcome to EarthLinks secure live Sales chat. You are chatting with Andy P.
Andy P.: Hello. How can I help you today?
Nate: I'm considering moving to EarthLink from Bellsouth
Andy P.: Great, I can help you with that.
Andy P.: Which of our services are you interested in?
Nate: My zip code is 29210, whats available in that area
Andy P.: To do a check for service I will need your full name, phone number and complete physical address at that location.
Nate: ***** BACKSPACE, DELETE, BACKSPACE, DELETE, HIGHLIGHT DELETE. *****
Andy P.: Thank you.
Andy P.: One moment while I get that information for you.
Andy P.: I am showing that you are serviceable for our High Speed DSL service.
Andy P.: I am showing that you are serviceable for our High Speed Cable Internet.
Nate: which is cheaper?
Andy P.: DSL.
Andy P.: This is a best effort technology with speeds up to 1.5mb on the download and up to 128kb on the upload.
Andy P.: Right now I can save you $99 by waiving the fee for equipment and activation. You then get the first 6 months of your contract for only $19.95/ mo. and the remaining 6 months are just $39.95 each.
Nate: hmmmm, I have 1.5 d/load now with 256 u/load for 32.99
Nate: what are the cable prices/speed
Andy P.: You can get Cable Internet and Home Phone Service for a cheaper rate as a result of a promotion going on.
Andy P.: The price is $39.95 for six months/$59.95 per month thereafter, with a one time set up charge of $29.95. Which includes:
Andy P.: Cable Internet Service: 6 months @ 29.95; $41.95 per month thereafter
Andy P.: true Voice Unlimited: 6 months @ $10; $18 per month thereafter
Andy P.: You get unlimited local and long distance calling.
Nate: what speeds does the cable service offer?
Andy P.: This is a best effort technology with speeds up to 5.0mb on the download and up to 384kb on the upload.
Andy P.: You can also keep the same number that you have now.
Nate: will I have to cancel Bellsouth before you guys get the ball rolling on this
Andy P.: No you can do that once our service is up and running so that there is no Downtime.
Nate: But I have my phone and DSL active with Bellsouth now, if I'm using the same number won't there be a little down time
Andy P.: The installer for the Cable Service will give you a call in 72 hours from the time you place the order.
Nate: Great, I think I want to get started on it
Andy P.: Then you can disconnect your DSL accordingly so there is negligible downtime and then for True Voice setup you can discontinue your regular telephone line once our service is installed.
Andy P.: Would you like me to get this order started for you?
That was the first page of the (3) page dialogue I had with the rep. first bill was no surprise, but when my second bill came it was $23 + and Im suppose to be on a $10 promo plan, even after the promo it suppose to be $18 thereafter. Me thinks it was just a glitch of the computer, nothing a little phone call wont fix. I dial the numbers on the speaker phone and began checking email while listening to hold music.
The rep came on and I told him my quandary. There was a pause, he then said what is your phone number again I repeated it to him. He started to rap away at his keyboard like he was playing a piece from Beethoven. Me thinks
this cant be good. I had my heart set on getting an apology and terminating the call as quick as possible, but still silence.
Then he cleared his throat and said we dont have the price in the system. I said that it was a promotion that I signed up for two months ago, my first bill was right but my second bill was not. He said sorry but our computers doesnt say that.
I asked, What promotion is EarthLink running for Tru- Voice? He said $17.95 promo and 23.95 thereafter. At that time I became silent, seems like the fecal matter is getting closer and closer to the fan. I told him that I signed up under a different promo and it should be honored
. Ive even got the sales chat to prove it. He called my bluff. He said fax or email it to him
so I emailed it while keeping him on the line. Upon receiving it he put me on hold, then came back saying theyre fixing the problem and they are going to override the system to correct the billing. Its funny, when I get a wrong bill (in their favor) it accidentally happens, but to fix it (in my favor), a system has to be overridden, clearance has to be gotten, management has to sign off and all that after a being on hold for 30 minutes, Nevertheless about 45 mins after the initial call it was handled.
The Third Bill
Bill #3 - $23.95. Okay let me reason this out, even if I was signed up for the new promo plan my bill should be $17.95 not $23.95. Here we go again 1800 EarthLink. Got a lady this time, I catch her up with the soap opera she pulls up my fill and sees that Im not a pathological liar she corrects billing. I ask her to please see to it that I get the current bill next month. She said that there is no way that can be done, she said Ill have to call in every month and get it corrected manually. I couldnt believe that, but accepted and prepared myself for next month.
This song and dance was played every month until the last month of my promo period.
Even though it was my last month on the promo, if I choose to stick with EarthLink, I would have to call EarthLink every month for the rest of my life because even my non-promo price is non-existent. I had a choice to make, either succumb to the new pricing or cancel service. I made the last call to have my bill corrected and to cancel, but the rep offered me a (3) month credit so I wont have to call in again in three months
I did the honest thing and declined it because I knew I was going to cancel
. Which I did. stupid move.
Next month after cancellation
Bill $23.95 WHYYYYYYYyyyyyyy! Ive returned the box, the wires, the hardware, all on my dime, havent used the service and the number has already been ported to um uhh, Im ashamed to say it, the company the was named Sunrocket
yeah I know how to pick em. Anyway why the bill ??? I called Billing, they claim that the bill will be adjusted after receipt of hardware (which they already have) go figure.
So I ignored it, maybe it will go away, besides Ive already cancelled. (I should have gotten the three month credit.)
Third month After Cancellation
Same bill came with late charges. Then I started thinking, If I were to pay this bill not because I owe it, but because it will be like buying sanity, great idea, you cant put a price on sanity. Me writes check Bill paid. another stupid move
Fourth month After Cancellation
Another bill - $2.31
$1.00 for not have electronic billing
$1.00 for requesting a paper bill
The reason I dont have electronic billing is because Im not a customer, but even if I was, doesnt that $2.00 charge look like double dipping to you ? non-electronic means paper bill, why two separate charges? They just would not quit. My shredder happened to be hungry that day, so I fed it .. I just cant be bothered.
Fifth month After Cancellation
July 27, 2007
Another bill came, double what last months total. Divorcing EarthLink Tru-Voice is not easy, its been months since we parted and now I guess Im paying alimony. I made the final call to clear up this mess and I must have caught the right guy this time because he started back tracking when all this chaos started. He brought my balance to naught and then he almost want to bet me that the bills never show up again.
So ends my EarthLink saga. I would hate for anyone to waste any portion of there life dealing with this.
I've been a faithful customer for a few years now and the price of my service fluctuates depending on the amount of promotions the customer service reps add to my account. My initial service was 5mb download & 384 upload for $29.99 and $41.xx after the promo period. On one of my initial calls to the customer service years ago ... I was told by the rep to call Timewarner after the promo ends to see if I can get the current promo pricing at that time or else my account will default to the non-promo price. So I've been doing that every year with great success. Right now I'm paying $34.95 per month.
About three weeks ago I was looking at the new pricing scheme for Time Warner on there site and to my surprise the lowest tier they have is 10mb down 1mb up for $29.95. This is more d/l than I'm paying for, more upload than I'm paying for and all at a cheaper price, so I jumped on the landline, uhh viop line since I'm with Ooma and tried to get this sorted out.
I try to be courtesy with these reps but they always get on the defensive and try to brush me off. I said, I'm on promotion pricing paying $34.95 a month for 5mb dn and 384kb up but according to your website the base tier is offering more D/load speeds, more U/load speeds and for a cheaper promo price. I was quickly told that whatever speed test I was using is not 100% accurate and there is some overhead to account for. So apparently TW is saying that I have the latest speeds but my speed test is flawed. I said overhead should not account for 60-70% of bandwidth but the Bot I was talking to just kept on repeating the same thing. She placed me on hold and transferred me to another rep.
Rep #2 said that I was not slated for the latest speeds and my account is provisioned for 5mb download & 384 upload. I said okay, that would explain the speeds I'm getting ..... now that we have that out of the way, can you explain why, if I go to the TWC site and plug in my address, I see better speeds and pricing? He said "where did you get that info from? I said, your company's main website. He placed me on hold. He came back saying that he's not sure what I'm looking at. I said the reason why I'm calling is for one of three things to happen. 1. Lower my price for the service I'm getting. (or) 2. At least raise my speeds to the lowest tier (or) 3. Cancel my account so I can sign back up getting the updated speeds and pricing. I'm not looking for a TWC to call me and offer me the better price of speeds, even though it would be nice, but as a customer doing his due diligence I expect TWC to say okay Mr.Customer, you're on top of your game and since you're no just blindly paying your month bill but actually keeping up with the progress and upgrades we're making to our service we will acknowledge your request. Besides its in their best interest by me making this request in lieu of cancelling my service altogether only to sign back up shortly thereafter. The rep saw my point of view and transferred me to another rep to get it sorted out .... or at least so I thought.
Rep # 3 was a carbon copy of rep #1, no head way there. I was on the phone with 3 more reps after that all to no avil. With each rep I gave them a history of my previous dialogue with the other reps,explained my situation and I'm suprised how inept they are in resolving such a simple issue.
Rep #7 was a little hostile at the outset and she seem to have a little authority behind her. I began by asking her what speeds I'm current provisioned for. She said 5mb download & 384 upload. I said good. Then I unfolded my petition by requesting for better speeds or better pricing or cancel my account. First she said that my modem would not handle the higher speeds and that I'm getting the best I can. Then when I pushed the cancellation issue she placed me on hold. She came back and said the she got an email two days ago saying the existing customers will be upgraded and somehow I was missed on the upgrade but she'll try to get me upgraded in 48hrs. I said fine, I'll call back in two days if it doesn't happen, but before I could finish the sentence my phone got disconnected. I thought that she cut the call short, but when I glanced over to my router and my Ooma phone, they both showed a non-existent internet connection. I looked at my router and it was rebooting all by itself .... or was it? A minute later my modem was up, my router had a wan connection, my Ooma was up and that's when the phone rang. It was the same rep that I was taking to. She said that she reset my modem from her end and I should have the current speeds. Nice touch to do it in mid conversation without warning, apparently she thought I was on a landline or cellphone. I tried it and speeds were the same. She said to power cycle my router and ooma and try it again. That did the trick. Speeds actually peaked at 25mb dn (with their speedboost technology) and 1mb down.
It took 1.5 hours of playing musical Reps but I got the advertised speeds. Like I said the service has been solid and works great but woe be unto you if it breaks or you need some kind of service.