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Review by bogometer  UPDATED: 33 days ago member for 33 days, 0 visits, last login: 33 days ago
Graford,Palo Pinto,TX
Contract price not specified.
"Accessibility in remote locations, download speed, supports VPN, remote desktop"
"Latency, upload speed, cost. Not for gaming."
"If you want to telecommute from the boonies and no DSL or CABLE, this is the way to go."
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I use dialup here for years, but remote desktop and vpn are not very usable at 41kbps (what i get from modem). There is no DSL or CABLE here and ISDN would cost more than satellite when you add the cost of the ISP.
The installer was prompt, courteous and knowledgeable and helped workout a tricky installation (the house is in a valley).
I bought the Nova 1500 package (which comes with a huge dish and a SkyEdge modem).
I usually get 1.4 mbps down and 40 - 60 mpbs up (higher at nights on clear days). Rain does slow it down and heavy rain loses connectivity. Its slower during peak hours.
A neighbor of mine uses direcway (Hughes) and based on our tests my service blows his away.
Overall, WAY WAY WAY better than dialup. I recommend it.
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Review by Pakapab  Posted: 60 days ago member for 6.5 years, 718 visits, last login: a few hours ago
Cap Haitien
Contract price not specified.
"Overall very stable satellite internet system with very few problems."
"It's satellite, not reall broadband..."
"This is very good if dialup is your only other opption"
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I use HughesNet at my home on the proplus plan, and Starband Nova1500 at the office. The Nova is much more reliable than the hughesnet system. Speeds, latency are about the same for both systems. The Nova 1500 has a Higher Fap, than the Hughes ProPlus plan with a price difference of just around $15 between them. I prefer the Starband Nova 1500 over the HughesNet HN7000s ProPlus any day.
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Review by pilot_in_fla  UPDATED: 166 days ago member for 166 days, 21 visits, last login: 141 days ago
Hernando,Citrus,FL
Contract price not specified.
"you can now reach support quickly"
"service keeps getting slower and slower and slower...."
"don't buy it -- if you have it and it is working, consider yourself lucky"
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As measured by overall ability to get things done, Starband's service has been in a slow decline for a long period of time. Want to watch a youtube video? -- you are better off going somewhere else as it will come in stops and starts. Want to listen to an audio stream? -- it might or might not work.
In the last month or so, Starband has been in a steeper decline. They have implemented something they call Improving Customer Experience (ICE). As documented, this doesn't seem that unreasonable but as implemented, it has the effect of reducing service speed to substantially slower than dialin. The "ICE" limits are based on total bytes downloaded but you can only observe those figures as daily summaries reported the following day, not in real time. Who knows if they are even correct. In my own personal experience, basic web surfing and a little bit of emailing was enough to exceed the Starband limits. But the worst part is that, once subject to ICE limits, you are limited to some unspecified number of TCP connections. Downloading a simple web page can take more than five minutes. Also, once subject to ICE limits, you will probably stay that way even though you are not really getting any sort of adquate service. Why is that the case? Who knows but don't expect to get an answer from technical support.
This is not a service that should be considered for anyone looking for new service. They want a two year commitment but I wonder if they will still be in business in two years. For existing customers, if their usage is minimal enough that they don't get "iced", it is probably not worth switching right now but those users would probably do just as well with dialin.
Followup comments:   bajadudes
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| educated consumers are good customers Starband, Like all Satellite ISP's imposes a bandwidth restriction policy. They and all the others have been doing it openly for years. I am surprised you are just finding this out now?
They have a bandwidth monitoring page that a user can access but admittedly it is 24 hours behind and not always accurate. You however as the end user of the service can accept responsibility to stay within the terms of your contract by pro actively monitoring your own usage with any number of free bandwidth monitoring software applications.
Hughesnet users do it all the time.
Starband will always give you one get out of FAP free card the first time you call to complain, warning you that you need to comply with the limits for your service plan. After that it's up to you to live with it or upgrade to higer level service plans that can realistically deal with the bandwidth you want to move over the sat link.
Starband is also the only company that gives you a bandwidth happy hour between Midnight and 6AM EST during which you can download and up load all you want without it counting toward your total.
The number of simultaneous TCP/IP sessions permitted has always been 64 and does not change when you are fapped.
In short, the policy is clear and stated publicly, they give you one warning, You have a free period every night for heavy use and finally YOU are responsible for living within the terms of the contract that you agreed to. Having been with them for 6 years you probably renewed that contract on several occasions....did you not read the fine print?
I agree,FAP sucks big time but it is not by any means a thing unique to Starband.
I also agree that if anyone has any other choice besides dial up then satellite is always the system of last resort. If you have no other options then it's better than sliced bread. If you have other options, then take them
Starband has 12 month contracts and 24 month contracts.
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| Re: educated consumers are good customers As I indicated in my review, the Starband service has been in slow decline for some time. It was in calls to support that I found out about the bandwidth limits which they indicated were new. It was in the second call to complain that they told me about the connection limits -- those are not documented at all as far as I can tell but they do explain the extremely poor performance I have been experiencing.
I'm not aware of anything that I am doing that would use substantial bandwidth. When I use dialup, it looks like about 10 mb/hr doing typical light browsing. I asked Starband tech support if they had tools to identify high-bandwidth situations and they indicated they had none. I don't think the after-the-fact bandwidth data are accurate since sometimes a light usage day will show 0.0 mb and other times in excess of 250 mb.
I did evaluate the usage policies for HughesNet and Wild Blue -- the HughesNet policy seemed to be a bit better but I wouldn't buy without having some questions answered.
Fortunately, I didn't have to explore the options of another sat provider or even another analog phone line with a couple of bonded modem connections although the latter would equal the performance of Starband at a much lower cost. Instead, for something less than 1/3 the cost, I am a happy new Embarq DSL customer! | |
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Review by (hidden by request) Posted: 200 days ago (review was emailed in)
Hancock,Houghton,MI
Contract price not specified.
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What's going on with Starband mail servers. MSN has them blocked as do ISPs using SORBS filters. And now, Starband's e-mail servers are down altogether.
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@starband.net | starband email server There server is giving problems acording to them. I can send but cant receive. They say should be up by end of day hopefully. They been out since 1 pm march 24 and this is 4:30 pm march 25 2008 | |
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| Email Server Down again email is not working again (Thursday 2:00 PM)
I use this email for work and can't afford to have the servers down. Also several of my clients have said their email to me come back "Undeliverable"
It may be time to find a more reliable mail server
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Review by JoesJungle  UPDATED: 211 days ago member for 212 days, 5 visits, last login: 171 days ago
Keedysville,Washington,MD
Contract price not specified.
"Installer seemed knowledgable, downloads are great"
"upload is only 18 - 36kbps"
"Okay right now, I'll update more as I deal with this slow upload."
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So far it is okay, i wish the upload speed was better. I'm kinda thinking the installer cut a corner somewhere. I did a speed test while he was standing there and when he saw it come up so slow on the upload he was a little defensive saying uploads are always slower. Well that is true, I understand that. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and said maybe its because its windy and the dish is moving some.
I have my first e-mail into tech support to ask if this is acceptable. If it comes back as no I'll ask the installer to come back out again and try to tweak the dish for better performance.
I'll come back to update this as we resolve things.
Update: Later that day:
Okay, so I'm getting better upload speeds. I guess its just network congestion weather, etc all influencing the uploading. For example its cloudy and rainy now and I'm getting 85+kbps upload. weird I know.
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Review by microb  UPDATED: 236 days ago member for 257 days, 36 visits, last login: 191 days ago
99708-2568
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Only Hughes and Starband are available in our remote location in AK. We have been with Starband for several years and have had good support and good performance. We recently upgraded from the older 360 service which does not support Vista. We use the Nova 1000 and have seen an increase in speeds, but not breath taking. This particular service is much better than nothing and still better than dial up which is not available here. However if we could get a hardwire service such as DSL we would. Price is $70/month speeds around 900 Kbs down and 50 to 90 Kbs up.
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Review by liljimr  Posted: 246 days ago member for 1.6 years, 7 visits, last login: 245 days ago
Gilbert,Franklin,LA
Contract price not specified.
"Its available where most isnt"
"everything else"
"if you have another option, take it!"
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I've been stuck with them for a year and havent liked it from day one. Much like everyone else, i wasnt aware of the bandwidth cap and they sure made it a point not to tell me. I bought the Nova pro system and skyedge modem which was delivered by the installer who knew absolutly nothing about computers. He had no idea how to refresh an IP without rebooting the machine, clueless about firewalls and antivirus. It was a good sign that i made a bad decision.
Tech support is a complete joke but i can give a little credit to the tech supervisor, Ron Beck. Ron and I have had numerous conversations on their crappy bandwidth monitor and after 3 months of discussion i've finally convinced him that it doesnt work. My bandwidth was getting throttled without me even using it. I had unpluged the cat5 from the modem for 2 days and it showed i had downloaded over 200 megs with the cable unpluged. That was a little tough for him to explain away. Ron was the only person i could get on the phone to even listen to the problems i was having, he eventually claimed to get with the engineering department and said the meter was at fault and it was fixed. This was 2-3 months ago and its much more accurate than it was. The everyday tech guys were trying to convince me that i had virus's that was using my bandwidth. Just to clear that up, i build, repair, cleanup pc's all day. This is what feeds my family, i think i'd know if i had a virus! The moral of that paragraph is to call tech support and ask to speak with Ron Beck when your having problems.
Reliability isnt bad if the installer does it right. He had to come back twice to get the signal strength where it should and now it takes a heavy rain to knock it out. Prior to that, a foggy morning would kill it.
Speed is ok, not the best. I get around 480 down and 100 up from the advertised 512/128. They recently started offering upgrades to a 1 meg down 256 up for $80 a month if you agree to extend your contract for 12 months and $70 for a 24 month contract, are you crazy? Theres no way in hell im agreeing to another year.
Bandwidth is useless unless you have money to burn
nova pro 512k $50 1 gig per 7 days nova 1000 1meg $80 2 gig per 7 days nova 1500 1.5meg $120 4 gigs per 7 days
Thats not reasonable by any means.
Latency is just stupid, i know why its so high but because of it you have problems with certain sites timing out. Gaming and VOIP will never run through a satellite.
Tracing route to www.l.google.com [74.125.47.99] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms mns-ism.starband.net [192.168.1.1] 2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms misc-*******-.pool.starband.net [********]
3 592 ms 598 ms 600 ms 172.30.178.221 4 589 ms 600 ms 1259 ms 172.30.178.254 5 1410 ms 780 ms 809 ms misc-148-78-243-2.pool.starband.net [148.78.243. 2] 6 619 ms 1289 ms 630 ms atl-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.90.73] 7 619 ms 629 ms 629 ms google-118687-atl-bb1.c.telia.net [213.248.90.66 ] 8 * 597 ms 629 ms 72.14.236.12 9 619 ms 630 ms 629 ms 209.85.251.231 10 589 ms 1290 ms 629 ms 209.85.253.169 11 621 ms 1288 ms 630 ms yw-in-f99.google.com [74.125.47.99]
Trace complete.
My contract is up so im looking into cellular modems. They have better latency, bandwidth and speeds for less expense. I dont know how reliable they are but im still researching it.
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Review by geoffinak3  UPDATED: 249 days ago member for 4 years, 13 visits, last login: 201 days ago
Poway,San Diego,CA
Contract price not specified.
"If you do not have anything, this is your only choice"
"Limits of use unrealistic. Expensive set up, per month cost and ROI negative."
"Do not do this unless you have nothing else possible or coming within 2 years."
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This review covers an installation in San Diego county where I have another home and was here much longer then I expected so thus my experience with Star Band in AK is limited.
This review covers StarBand, which is now part of spacenet who runs StarBand but also markets their own equipment which is a upgrade from the system I explain below. However, it still operates the same, the same latency problems exist and the amount of Gigabytes allowed is just unrealistic unless you willing to pay for a corporate rate and your company relies on it.
I have been with Star Band 3 years. Speeds on a 481 telecommuter plan at $89.00 a month for that I average down loads 500 Kbs to 750 Kbs. Up load, to 125 kbs up load speeds
FAP or Fair Access use Policy. Read your contract carefully !
This is how many Gigabytes a month you will get, or so they say.
I get 1 Gigabyte per "rolling week" or a total of 4 Gigs in 28 days for a month.
If in that week, I exceed my 1 Gigabyte, I get an email, with a picture in it, that takes up more space... that says I have been throttled, that is my speeds have been reduced to 90 kbs to 125 kbs download to 25 kbs upload until my 7 day rolling average of use drops below an arbitrary number of 500 or 600 Mbs in a 7 day period.
However, to keep you busting the 1 Gig limit, they put in a stop at about 650 to 800 Mbs in a 7 day period. So if you did one day of heavy downloading, your going to have to wait for that big day or two to pass before you get your speed back. That can be as long as a week stuck at 90 kbs down.
The company is in a mass change and hard to tell their direction. I once thought it was the best system and company for all those who needed DSL speeds, 750 to 1 MB down. Higher are possible. But it seems all the companies have gone the same route, at least to the consumer level. We gotcha and there is not much you can do about it and your going to pay maybe get a little faster, but all that does is eat up you meager MB limit up that much faster.
Not just StarBand but all the others have the same problems and performance lags and not much respect for the customer. Hughes is making a big push, when you see this happening, you may join and find things good for a few months. Then all the others come online and the transponders on the satellites fill up and they don't want to open more transponders, so you suffer, slower speeds, longer latency periods. I have had the argument that Internet is much harder then cable TV, that not a packet can be lost and it's true. But look at Satellite TV. They even feed cable TV so all TV brought into the home is brought by satellite, I can choose from probably 60 movies, 180 stations, High Definition, all the music stations and programming of sports all for about $110.00 a month. Satellite internet wants $89.00 for 1 Megabyte a week.
However while they were laughing, as we failed time after time to get my connection, and they were eating a sloppy hamburger and burping and slurping in my ear on the phone during my hook up, honestly.... They forgot to watch the competition, the cell phone companies.
I now think cell will take over for the use of satellite, as the deals for cell coverage is cheaper, offers more bandwidth, is faster and your not tied to a dish. Just a thought to keep in mind if your stuck in the ozone with no cable or DSL and deciding if StarBand is for you.
I would choose cell now over satellite if both were available with out a thought . Cell has FAP limits too but gives you higher speeds and larger Gigabyte limits are available at a reasonable cost. I could almost double my Gigabyte use, Verizon now has 5 Gigs a month for $59.00, if you have a line with them.
The initial out put of cash for star band is staggering. I paid for the dish and all the required hardware and cable that was $1800.00. The modem was about $350.00 after a rebate. Plus $500.00 to have a certified installer come out and do his job. Which I actually did most of, as this was his first install and he could not dig a hole. It took a month from digging the hole to where I had signal. He could not find the bird. Be sure your installer has a electronic way to select the satellite and adjust your tuning, very important. The difference between the size of the signal for Dish TV and Star band is like looking for a baseball bat compared to a pencil.
You can do this yourself and it's basically pretty easy, especially if you invest in a "bird dog" or other satellite finder for about $200.00 to 300.00 and take the installers course which is online.
The upfront costs can be spaced out over 2 years so that can ease that price bite a bit. However ROI is terrible. The equipment that cost me over $2000.00 just 3 years ago, is now worthless.
I can get a new modem that they have not "fully" released it and it will work with my present dish, but only at slower speeds and lower Gigabytes, to get the maximum, I need a new dish and the associated receivers to carry 2 watts. As of yet the reliability and actual use of that new equipment is not available to existing customers. Nor are dealers allowed to show it in their show rooms and can only be bought directly from Star Band. So while the future looks a little better and more expensive. $89.00 will be the cheapest and $139.00 the next step. Until I see a hundred reports of this equipment working. I would be very careful.
Only new customers through spacenet get this and reports are few. I know of just a couple of people who have this new modem and as of yet they have not got their signal, so to report on this new upgrade is speculation at this point.
The dish must have a southern exposure. Now I must say that the dish and I did oversee the install has withstood winds of over 75 mph and never needed to be re-pointed. I do build to Alaska standards even in Cal. The dish points south and our winds come from the east, although it survived a southern wind of 65 to 75 sustained that snapped a 2 foot 50 foot high Eucalyptus tree right at the ground. So stability was great.
What you can do ,read things on the net, email, but all pictures must be in JPEG, a person who sends a photo in Raw format and it gets a few RE RE RE can blow 5 megabytes in one letter. People forget not everyone has high speed internet.
No U tube, no my Space, P2P, chatting just eats mbs like crazy, no little video bites, certainly no movies, videos or movie trailers, no games, no unnecessary trial downloads. No Pod casts, or book down loads. No internet radio. It's very limiting. But it's there.
Maybe a little music. Simple research and email for 1 person. 5 GIgs is nothing. When it comes time to upgrade the computer oh my gosh, there sits maybe 50 to 100 MBs and you know it's just going to blow you out of the water for the week.
For 1 person, who does not want to share photos and does a little surfing or shopping on the net. If you have a family, forget it, kids, no way games. Part of the problem is the limit of use policy
was established in 2001, the internet has changed a lot since then.
Do not sign any contract until you have internet service running.
In my view Star band is the best of the lot, Wild Blue is the new kid and has growing pains, Hughes bad news, stay away from Direct-way, no way. I did a lot of research before selecting Star Band 3 years ago. The service was fairly reliable, I did not have many outages. They did have a problem with one of their major birds and I was the first caller on Sunday to get through and I must say they took care of me. Switched me off the injured Bird and I had no service problems.
However, that was Star Band 2.5 years ago and really StarBand is gone and Spacenet is here now. Thats clear.
They have been enforcing the FAP limits pretty hard. My Mac measures to the packet, how much kbs and Mbs come in and kbs and Mbs go out, my numbers do not match what StarBand shows all the time. They say that there are numbers behind the scenes that we can not measure, that only they see, that the posted numbers on their site are not correct, only a reference and "we have had problems." Ae the answers I get. Plus another one, get a better counter, well the counter is part of the Mac Operating System. Pretty hard to get better then built in. If you call in they review your record and have lifted the the restrictions on my 3 FAPS but all mine hit on a Saturday and that meant I had until Monday or Tuesday to call as that CSR is not there on Sunday. Each time my speed was set to 500 Kbs down when it should be 750 Kbs down and that takes another call, but beware of the sleeping giant.
So they have gotten over $6,100.00 dollars out of me for 3 years of service, you would think I would have the ability to listen to a ball game now and then, watch some news videos. Download the upgrades to the computer with out having to stay off for days to let my rolling average come down. As I can not go above 650 to 800 Mbs a week, lets give them 800 Mbs 3.2 Gigs a month
that means I got 115.2 Gigabytes out of StarBand over the last 36 months averages out to 3.1 Gigs a month. My math is not perfect but works. Funny thing. I got charged for Mbs when there was no power, people were not here. It seems they come up with an average and try to keep you there. They pick the highest day and that puppy rides unless you read the newspaper for a week.
Billing went fine for almost 3 years and then they changed addresses and did not tell me and my online payments did not show up. Cost 3 days on the phone out of 7 and about 4 hours between my Bank and StarBand. Oh yes $300.00 to keep my account straight even though I paid. They did finally get it straightened out and did credit me the amount
Other then that Billing has been straight forward. Don't take the equipment protection plan for $10.00 a month, not worth it and getting the payments would be impossible.
So, if URStuck, then you have no choice. Just be careful and do not put your money out till you see your stuff work. Also most dealers do not like installing equipment you bought off the phone from Star Band or spacenet. Because they miss out on their commission and charging you a little higher. Some installers will do your own stuff. Beware of used equipment, except reputable dealers and do not go by the listed installers on the net. Probably 50% have nothing to do with them.
Well that's the good , bad and the ugly. A way to provide service around the country and the world but greed I think drives this industry more then a willingness to succeed in the long run. But then who am I. They served a purpose. I had to be able to order things to care for a sick relative. I know have some options and I think it might be time to take them.
Any questions or comments negative or positive, just ask.
Geoff
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join:2008-01-02 Barnegat, NJ | wow whew... You ARE OBVIOUSLY retired and have an agenda, keep it simple... I ain't got the time to read a novel. It obviously important to you, "but" you have to show "why" it should be important to us or "guess what" it ain't. | |
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| Re: wow Hey if you do not want to read a full report of 3 years of StarBand service then just skip it. It's just that easy.
This is an industry that promises a lot and delivers, according to the individual company, varying degrees of service. 3 years and $6100.00 investment in StarBand. Some people may be interested. Some may not Then others go out and buy it and complain why, usually because they did not do their research. I do my homework when investing in a highly changing business.
If I am going to rate a company, I am going to be fair about what was good, what was bad and what I see the future of after 3 years of life, so someone considering this can benefit from my experience. I do not write for a grade, accolades or to please anyone but myself that I have passed my knowledge along and if I help one person. Then great.
That's what's good about articles, if their too long or complex to understand , you just skip them. Good luck on doing your research and hope it turns out well. Enjoy ! Geoff | |
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sure glad i got ebay i bought my whole system on ebay for like 350.00 installed it myself and use it every day download movies music everything and only got throttled down once wow.but i did buy the cheaper model 360 and planning on sticking with it thanks. | |
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| Re: wow It's unusual for StarBand in the last 3 years to certify a eBay sold 360, unless the seller is a certified dealer with Star Band. Which there are some. The 360 is also not supported by any tech support. It is mid 90s tech, the satellite dish will support only the 360 modem. The 480 series and above will require a new dish. The Nova 1000 series will work off the 480 dish with a swap out out of the receiver, if you want the Nova 1500, you will need to purchase a whole new dish and receiver, along with the modems.. So while 360 deals are out there, it's old technology, will also not support Macs unless you port it through a windows machine.
So what kind of speeds do you see , what are your monthly charges and what satellite do they have you on. That all makes a difference.
If you want to patch something together, it can be done. I would be very careful of eBay sellers for this equipment. My recommendation, call an installer or StarBand to make sure they will certify and turn your modem on and the dish is the right one. You just can't point and get service, they have to have your location and info from the modem to activate service. Plus you still have to sign a service agreement of at least 2 years or 3 years lowers the price a little per month.
Glad it works for you, but we are comparing 2 completely different systems and technology almost 10 years apart, the 360 still works and some people stick with it because they had to invest so much money, you just can't do it again. I suspect that once they get the bugs out of Nova 1000 and 1500, you will see service for the 360 fall off, because Space Net, Star Bands Parent company wants to move these Nova modems real bad. Just too many hardware and software problems with them . When we have a year of good service reports. Then I might look at it, only as a last resort. Buy it now and your going to be a beta tester. But I think cellular is going to really eat up a lot of satellites business. I have been pretty happy with Verizon. Glad it works for you, just remember were 10 years apart in tech, so that is why you got it so cheap, but if it works, more power to you. Geoff | |
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Review by joemaloy  UPDATED: 265 days ago member for 3.8 years, 830 visits, last login: 116 days ago
Willow Springs,Howell,MO
Contract price not specified.
"Faster than dialup,No FAP"
"LAG"
"Im Happy with it"
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I got on after T7 went down, So I didn't have to go through that problem. I have not had one problem sense I got the system running. No FAP I have had Direcway, and Starband is a whole lot better. ---------------------------------------------------------- This system has been in service sense last review. Just read it again except for a modem going out and now the connection is be FAPed.
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Review by chosenken  Posted: 1.2 years ago member for 5.8 years, 26 visits, last login: 57 days ago
Marquette,Marquette,MI
Contract price not specified.
"It can be better then dial up if not on probation"
"Bandwidth restrictions your not told about, horrible tech support"
"Go with some one else, PLEASE!"
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We live on Drummond Island MI, right in the middle of a technology dead zone. Original 100 year old phone line, old outdated cable, no cell phone coverage. We had dial up, and on a good day could get 28.8.
So we got Starband. Ordered the basic plan, and got the 360 modem and dish for $300 and monthly payment of $59.99. Speeds should be 512 kbps down, 128 kpbs up. For the first few months all was good, just had little issues with the proxy and the web page and data accelerator crashing.
Then came their bandwidth monitor program, with out TELLING US till we got an e-mail saying we were on probation. Turns out they enacted a new system that allows only 1 gig of bandwidth over a 7 day period. Now if you surf the internet you know that you will use over 1 gig in a week. So this basically shut down youtub, Google Earth, all podcasts, internet radio, ect. If you used too much bandwidth, they would limit it to 100 kbps till your 7 day period went below 1 gig.
What really pissed me off is the fact we were not told about this when we purchased it and were not told about it till we were on probation. Not to mention there system is broken half the time. We will be on probation with them stating we have used 1.1 gigs, yet THERE real time bandwidth graph will only show 500 mb used. Yea, great system. Then you call to see what is up, and you have to wait upwards of half an hour to talk to some one.
We should have DSL this September 2007, and the moment we can get it, I will so take the $99 cancellation fee and switch over. I have had enough of this so called "service".
Here is a ping test while on probation:
Pinging www.l.google.com [209.85.165.99] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=605ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=621ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=614ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=608ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=602ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=596ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=1264ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=1282ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=608ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=619ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=613ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=607ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=601ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=2679ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=1281ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=1282ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=1282ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=609ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=1271ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=608ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=594ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=620ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=2698ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=1986ms TTL=244 Reply from 209.85.165.99: bytes=32 time=1248ms TTL=244
Ping statistics for 209.85.165.99: Packets: Sent = 25, Received = 25, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 594ms, Maximum = 2698ms, Average = 1015ms
And here is a speed test while on probation:
»www.speedtest.net/result/150723644.png
Followup comments:   a333 A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12 Corona, NY | LOL Wow, kinda makes my slowish 500/160 DSL look lightning fast, LOL. | |
|  |  adolobe
join:2002-07-23 Jacksonville, NC | Re: LOL At least his Starbadn limits him to 100k vs Direcway when they fap you you get below dialup most speed tests when on fap on direcway hover between 14k-22k on my system at my moms house. | |
|   ComputSoft
@starband.net | Bandwidth Restrictions I would like to know of a sat provider that does not have bandwidth restrictions. I personally prefer Starband over the others and I have used them all. | |
|  DonPedro
join:2005-11-18 dominican re
| Good news. I use Starband for 2 years now and neve experienced a such problem. The good news is : the problem is on your side, may be the FAP, may be your router (but no router with the old 360). There is something wrong in your own equipment for sure.
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|  |  liljimr
join:2007-02-10 Gilbert, LA | Re: Good news. Don Pedro, you obviously dont use your system very much. I've been with starband over a year with a skyedge modem on the nova pro plan and it sucks. 1 gig per 7 days is unrealistic. There is nothing wrong with his equipment. | |
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