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Review by voqk726 See Profile

  • Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
  • Cost: $45 per month (12 month contract)
Easy enough for them to set it up
Terriblem inconsistent speeds, useless tech support
Would never sign another contract with Shaw
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I've been using Shaw internet for 6 months now, and have been blown away by the total inconsistency in connection speed. To touch briefly on "Pre sales information" and "Install Co-ordination", these were both fine - but they also don't really matter. It's not difficult to plug a modem into the wall. The actual internet (what I'm paying for) is terrible - often times I'm unable to load even the most basic webpages, such as Google. Streaming video usually needs to be buffered for at least as long as the video is to watch it (this includes youtube) and downloading movies through iTunes takes forever.

To qualify the above, I have a degree in Computer Science from UBC and work for a major international software company. I also worked throughout college at another major international computer companies retail stores diagnosing internet issues. I'm very qualified to diagnose a problem connection, and the clear source of my problem is Shaw. Whenever I attempt to get them to realize and fix the problem, I get the run-around and no progress is made.

All in all, the tech support is nonexistent, and the service is terrible. The dial-up connection I had in 1999 was more consistent, and comparable in terms of average speed. I will not buy internet from Shaw within the next decade, and past that only if they demonstrate significant improvement. Bottom line: Go elsewhere.

member for 12.1 years, driveby review (so far)
updated 12.1 years ago


kevinds
Premium Member
join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB

kevinds

Premium Member

Contract?

Shaw doesn't have contracts.

You may have a 12 month promo, but you can definately cancel anytime.

ShawSean
join:2010-07-16
Vernon, BC

ShawSean

Member

Re: Contract?

I'm sorry to hear that you weren't happy with the support you received. My door is always open on the boards here should you like to discuss anything in the future. Technical or not.

Cheers.

Chuck sTruck
@teksavvy.com

Chuck sTruck

Anon

This is the real reason

The problem is Canada and the Canadian political system. These problems don't exist in the rest of the world. Unless these isp's are sued to the nines for robbing the Canadian public nothing will change. We are owed hundreds of billions of dollars we've been robbed of in the past.

Review by bklass See Profile

  • Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
  • Cost Contract price not specified.
Download speeds perform as advertised
Upload speeds perform as advertised
Better than the only other option in Winnipeg (MTS)
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"Introductory offer" pricing is confusing - it makes you think you're getting a better deal than you are, especially considering the one time installation fee of ~$35.00.

Service provision is good; there are rarely if ever interruptions in the service and when there are a power cycle of the modem usually sews the problem up.

Here in Winnipeg, we have a choice between only two service providers: Shaw and MTS. These companies know that you don't have much of a choice - retention services at both are poor. If you have complaints or consider switching service they won't try to keep your business.

$50.00 a month for 10Mbps is about standard across companies. It is too much to pay for this service but we customers don't have much of a choice. If I have any complaint about the actual service, it is the upload speeds, which for my plan is 512 kbps. Terrible. 10Mbps down 512kbps up? Forget about using your Internet if you're using P2P in the background.

Given that the bar is set pretty low for ISPs in Canada (viz. customer service, competitive rates/plans) Shaw is near the top. If TekSavvy served Manitoba, I would sign up in a heartbeat. Faced with a choice between Shaw or MTS, choose the former.

member for 12.1 years, 1570 visits, last login: 343 days ago
updated 12.1 years ago


Review by Doonz See Profile

  • Location: Beaumont, AB, Canada
  • Cost: $240 per month
  • Install: about 1 days
250/15 Unmetered
1000/1000 To Far Away
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Shaw was the FIRST Incumbent to listen to its users. For that I will support them.

After 6 months of being on Unmetered internet reaching Blazing speeds of 30MB/s on my connection Im as happy as I have ever been with shaw.

member for 13.3 years, 3711 visits, last login: 5.3 years ago
updated 12.1 years ago







Review by LemonDrop See Profile

  • Location: Aldergrove, BC, Canada
  • Cost Contract price not specified.
The Service itself is good.
Customer service is good when it can be reached
As all providers vary very little, as long as a problem does not arise, this is a plus ISP
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I have rated by selecting the middle buttons because I have found that the ISP's all operate with the same services and philosophies.

I chose Shaw because Telus could not provide the high-speed service in my area.

I have just 'fixed' the service myself thanks to DSLReports.com

I have been getting slower that advertised speeds (less than half) and since have tweaked TCP resulting in 65% to 95% of the 100 mbps service that I am paying for. Thank you DSLReports.

I find it a weakness in Shaw that they did not on initial set up have people that would/could advise on something as simple as TCP tweaks for high speed service or the simple suggestion of making sure that your entire network is tweaked exactly the same way. It was a pretty simple fix with outstanding results.

On the up side, when able to talk to any tech/customer service rep, I find the quality of service supplied to be exemplary. Shaw occasionally activates their 'call back system' which allows one to leave their phone number and receive a call back. Why this is not left activated at all times is beyond me.

I updated to their Warp system just to give it a try a few months ago. After not getting the service as advertised, I called them (got the call back service) and when called back spoke to a young fellow that immediately further upgraded me to their 100 mbps service because he recognized that I could get it cheaper (significantly cheaper). This is the sort of thing that gives one hope that they are a fine provider. He did not however have the knowledge or the experience to advise of the required tweaks. Neither did any of the on sight techs that were sent out.

Now, I am fully aware that one should be conversant with the machines that they play with but even though I have been using running installing computers since 88, I am not what you would call a geek. Shaw should insure that those that work for them are, in my opinion.

I give them a C+

member for 12.3 years, 72 visits, last login: 1.6 years ago
updated 12.3 years ago

Lesaonar
join:2000-07-25
Victoria, BC

Lesaonar

Member

Not their responsibility.

It's not their job to tweak each computer or your network. That's your equipment, not theirs. They are responsible for installing the hardware and checking levels, line noise etc. No different with phone support. This more then likely has to do with possible litigation if they damage, or mess up, your equipment.
LemonDrop
Premium Member
join:2011-12-16

LemonDrop

Premium Member

Re: Not their responsibility.

I never suggested that it was their responsibility to tweak my computers. What I said was, it is their responsibility to 'advise' that if I was going to get the service as advertised that I had to tweak my computers.

I am curious why you would make such an assumption?
Ikarasu
join:2004-01-09
Port Coquitlam, BC

Ikarasu

Member

overage

Not to mention a TCP tweak would not give you a 30-40% increase... unless your computer was seriously messed up due to someone putting the wrong TCP settings.

What most likely happened, is you were at 60% during peak hour...then coincidentally it jumped to 90%when there wasnt heavy node use. It's a flaw with cable, don't expect to get even 60% fulltime right now :\
LemonDrop
Premium Member
join:2011-12-16

LemonDrop

Premium Member

Re: overage

Well my goodness it certainly did. My computers were not messed up. Their was no coincidence.

I want to thank you both for your interesting replies.


Chucks Truck
@teksavvy.com

Chucks Truck

Anon

Re: overage

Obviously if you choke off the size of the receive window your speed will also be choked off. If you use a site such as this:
»ndt.server.ufl.edu:7123/

It will show you if your receive window is too small and you need to increase it.

Review by Nitro Fixx See Profile

  • Location: Maple Ridge, BC, Canada
  • Cost: $39 per month
  • Install: about 2 days
were rock solid
Infrastructure badly needs upgrading in areas that are oversubscribed
Shaw wouldn't listen, moved to Telus
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First signed up in '97 with rogers@home, They installed the modem and network card 2 days after the order was placed!

Speed was fair, never had any real issues.

Shaw Cable then took over from Rogers Cable and they called to say they would have a installer come over and give us a new digital terminal, and a new cable modem.

Installer came on time and replaced terminal, modem and replaced the cabling to all three tv's in our house as well as the cable to the vcr.(we also subscribe to the digital cable/pay tv package)

Speed has always been great and other than the rare dns screw up I really don't have any issues with Shaw. Also If any service interuption is going to be in your area, they e-mail you in advance.

My wife and kids love having their own e-mails and with 2 computers in the house somone is usually surfin.

We also use Shaw at my workplace with about 20 terminals on the lan and it has the same rock solid performance.

~~UPDATE 01/18/04~~
Speed is now back to what it used to be prior to the icmps from the welchia/nachi outbreak in the Shaw network

I really can't comment on Shaw's technical support because I haven't had to use it in over 2 1/2 years.

Still using the Terayon modem and have never had any disconnect/connect problems that I read about all the time.

Shaw has not even contacted me yet on upgrading to the Motorola SURFboard DOCSIS 2.0 Cable Modem that i've been hearing about.

I will keep the Terayon because the speeds I get are consistantly higher than the cap that they have on the Motorola.
Recent speed tests
»/speed ··· 73829050 »/speed ··· 73829213
»/speed ··· 76599641
»/speed ··· 77030828

~~UPDATE 05/16/04~~

May 04/2003 Shaw finally upgraded my modem to the Motorola SB5100 and had to shell out another $10 to get my speeds up.(I-xtreme) I was choked that I was getting a modem that was capped at lower speeds than what I was previously getting.

After being on it for the first few days I realized even though my download speed (4807kbps)is a little lower than the Terayon, the SB5100's speed is very consistant throughout the entire day. The Terayon's speed used to drop to about 2500kbps during peak periods and could hit 5000-5800 down only first thing in the morning.

~~UPDATE 09/14/04~~

After having I-Xtreme for the last 5 months i satisfied with the change over from the old dinosaur "Terayon" modem to the Motorola surfboard modem. Speed at my house is rock steady 4807-4824kbps(603KB/s) down, 949-951kbps up
and that's any time of the day.

--UPDATE 03/08/05--

Still on a decent node - Still very consistant throughout the day. SInce the end of November download speeds have actually actually increased.
Downloaded a 20MB file from ATI the other day, at better than 630KB/s

~~UPDATE 03/15/06~~

Other than the Shaw's news servers needing a much needed overhaul, the connection at my house "rocks" I'm on a good node and get great speeds all the time and consistant low pings Xtreme is now 7000/1000 here are a couple speed tests
»/speed ··· 11777861
»/speed ··· 17406877

~~UPDATE 12/23/06~~

Had some issues after the 10000/1000 upgrade but everything is fine now

»/im/20 ··· 7894.png 9648/974

»/im/20 ··· 2363.png 9715/972

--update 09/16/07--

Still have a great connection. Can't remember when our internet was down last.
I can't even comment on Shaw's Customer Support - I haven't had to use them,

Still using the Xtreme package.

Here are some real life test results to a server in Mt. Prospect, Illinois not from a SpeedTest.net server less than 50 miles from my house

»/speed ··· 26/70632 29159/984
»/speed ··· 82/23186 29742/979

update: 10/26/2011
On a oversubscribed node for the last year, lucky to get 15Mbps down on the 25Mbps tier at 5 in the morning - usually during the day i get 4Mbps - 7Mbps
Phoned Shaw many,many times I guess being a cable internet subscriber from the beginning means nothing. So I closed my account and moved to Telus; getting rock steady speeds getting 21Mbps down 2Mbps up 24/7

member for 21.1 years, 2653 visits, last login: 10 years ago
updated 12.4 years ago


Tman16
@65.243.x.x

Tman16

Anon

I know what you mean

I usually get 3mbit up and .5mbit down and have gotten 7mbit down before...It doesn't get slowed when it rains, never failed to open a web page and has never been unavailable. It took a little over 2 weeks from order to installation, but there was a huge waiting list in my neighborhood. Shaw is rock solid...in Canada and in Florida!

eminty
@tera-byte.com

eminty

Anon

ooohyeah.

#---
After being on it for the first few days I realized even though my download speed (4807mbps)is a little lower than the Terayon, the SB5100's speed is very consistant throughout the entire day. The Terayon's speed used to drop to about 2500kbps during peak periods and could hit 5000-5800 down only first thing in the morning.
#---

I'm currently in Edmonton, and I've been using the older Motorola in town since I moved here (from vancouver/Terayon.) It seems my story is the same.. I've maxed my Motorola out at 10Mbit (1megabyte/second) download (upstream I but haven't got over 30-50 Kilobyte/sec.) I'm currently waiting for a DOCSIS 2.0 modem (extreme) just for the hell of it, but they actualy advertise slower downstream speeds than I'm used to.. What gives with that? I'm curious as to whether this upgrade will kickass or kick my ass (back down to slow speeds.)

Also, does shaw limit with a TFTP uploadable cfg file on the modem? or on their end? .)

Also, the advertising of "UNLIMITED" seems to have died down (I haven't seen that ad in awhile,) but I still do like to bring it up with the manager of their bandwidth department. Apparently they have about 5-6 people in their bandwidth department, to handle people who use as much BW as me, and once they find out who you are, they treat you like you're a nazi in the nuremburg trials. oh well.

Review by silverpig See Profile

  • Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
  • Cost: $54 per month
Fast and reliable
nothing really
It's the way to go if you have the option
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I got shaw extreme-i way back in 2004 and kept it right up until June 2010 when I moved. In all that time I think my internet was out only once, and only for about 2 hours. Speeds were always great, and the upgrades along the line were appreciated.

I paid a little over $50/mo for the service, taxes included. I bought the modem (Motorola SB series) and had a cable tv package discount, although I didn't pay for the cable tv as it was included in my rent.

Sadly I had to drop Shaw when I moved to Toronto right when the new plans were coming out. I'd have been on BB50 right off the bat, and would be running the unlimited 250 plan if they were available in Toronto.

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Review by ZZZZZZZ See Profile

  • Location: PARADISE
  • Cost: $40 per month
Great speed and support
a few outages
One of the best
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Have to write a new review,,,Shaw in their infinite stupidity has laid off 900 workers.

The bulk of which were in phone line support,so now instead of waiting maybe 30 minutes,you're on hold for over an hour and if your lucky,they'll call you back in 3 or 4 hours.

Mindboggling stupidity for a company in this business.

member for 22.9 years, 11365 visits, last login: a few hours ago
updated 12.5 years ago

canuck999999
join:2004-04-19

canuck999999

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Review

So where's the rest of the review ?

correctness
@shawcable.net

correctness

Anon

Um.

Wait times suck horribly at Shaw. But, they laid off 500 employees back in March, and none of those employees actually took front line phone calls.

ZZZZZZZ
Premium Member
join:2001-05-27
PARADISE

ZZZZZZZ

Premium Member

Re: Um.

Sorry but I know half a dozen techs that work there and they told me that that's where the bulk of layoffs were.

correctness
@shawcable.net

correctness

Anon

Re: Um.

I have just gone back to school, but I worked at Shaw until mid-August. The Saskatoon call centre was closed, so there were some CSRs/TSRs laid off there; I had forgotten about that. But, other than Saskatoon, there were ZERO customer facing reps laid off. A bunch of supervisors, managers, support reps, field support, dispatch, etc were affected though.






Review by cableguyi7 See Profile

  • Location: Richmond, BC, Canada
  • Cost: $128 per month
  • Install: about 900 days
Awesome Speeds for Download. somewhat reliable
Terrible Upload Speed, Price
tv and phone and internet bundle. got the regular internet
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Overall, the speeds are good for download, but upload wise its terrible.
The support has been downhill, the digital box hasn't worked for a week already, trying to get support but on hold for hrs.
And now on the bill it says it will increase the rate, seriously ? its already so pricey and it wants more ?

Been a customer ever since it started, in Vancouver B.C, the original provider was rogers or something, been customer for like over 11 years and i am tempted to swtich but theres no other good choices in my area


member for 13.4 years, 1104 visits, last login: 345 days ago
updated 12.6 years ago


Review by jodster See Profile

  • Location: Vegreville, AB, Canada
  • Cost: $35 per month
  • Install: about 10 days
I love Shaw. Great customer service. Always friendly, helpful and good value
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telus has gone down hill in every area, especially customer service, integrity, honesty, service, and communication. They are trying to charge me for services I had discontinued, and instead continued billing me for a phone/internet/long distance plan at a residence where no one was living, While i continued to pay for all these services at another residence where i was living, they cut off all services on Boxing day saying my bill was over due when i had actually overpaid. But since they hadn't discontinued the services at my other residence like i'd asked them too, they were still billing me for both. Then even after they cut off services to the residence i was living at, they continued to charge me for 3 more months while i had no services whatsoever. A dozen phone calls to discuss the situation with them resulted in only buying and wasting a bunch of cell phone top up cards.

so i called Shaw, and they gave me all the services I had had with telus plus cable for half the price. They were helpful, very friendly, fast, and their service has been excellent and the price very reasonable.

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M_
join:2010-05-01
Vancouver, BC

M_

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Shaw's new shill poster.

That's such a blatant shill, Shaw. That's just really bad fiction.

Give me a break, please.

pfak
Premium Member
join:2002-12-29
Vancouver, BC

pfak

Premium Member

Huh ..?

Is this written by a Shaw employee?

anon 904
@shawcable.net

anon 904

Anon

Whiners no matter where you go

I live dslreports comments; There is a full serving of idiot in every post. Anytime anything positive is posted about the hated company of the season you whiners cry conspiracy. Hilarious.

scrantonjoe
@shawcable.net

scrantonjoe

Anon

Re: Whiners no matter where you go

Every time there is anything positive written about Shaw, the Telus shills pounce all over it. It's probably the most entertaining thing about DSL Reports.

There are many reasons I only spent a few months with Telus and have been with Shaw for several years, although I'm not going to waste my time writing reviews about it. There are tons of other people who have experienced the exact same Telus service.
Lesaonar
join:2000-07-25
Victoria, BC

Lesaonar

Member

re: billing

Telus' billing is absolutely abhorrent. Pretty much every month we have to keep a close eye on the bill since they seem to love charging for things that are either supposed to be credited due to contract or double charging for things you do pay for. We've been with them now for 8 months and we've had to call in 4 out of those 8 due to billing issues.

Review by vanDSLuser See Profile

  • Location: White Rock, BC, Canada
  • Cost: $50 per month
  • Install: about 2 days
Speed is usually stable / consistent
DPI on p2p on occasion
Shaw has learned from the storm it created when it tried ultralow caps
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9 month review update

ACTIVATION

Service activated July 1/2010 - no major delays, called, got new customer 6 month promo of half price and modem shipped and delivered next day. Plugged modem in, voila internet.

UPDATE on UBB

Shaw (much to my surprise) has listened to their customers and the bandwidth caps (which led to my previous negative review) have been raised to acceptable levels. Looking at the new plans, it's one of the highest caps in Canada from a mainstream ISP (250GB on Extreme makes netflix usable in HD) and for $10 more I can have a 400GB cap w/ a 50Mbps downstream (if the node will support it or not is another question)

It might be my area, but I haven't noticed congestion slowdowns. It might be most of the audience around here tends to be less digitally connected, and uses their internet more or less to check email.

TECH SUPPORT

Have not had to use


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updated 12.8 years ago


Xeri
@shawcable.net

Xeri

Anon

Indeed

Shaw going the way of the bhell/robbers rip off system is just sad.
Lowering caps and then telling us to buy their data packs for retardedly inflated prices is downright theft.

5 dollars for 10 gigs, teksavvy was 10 bucks for 100 gigs....

We pay over 50 dollars for internet why do we not have a 250gig starter pack which is what they seem to think 250 gigs is worth to us even at inflated prices.
chgo_man99
join:2010-01-01
Sunnyvale, CA

chgo_man99

Member

how about embarrassing them in news stories?

DSLReports only has a niche audience.

I know CRTC won't step since they sleep in bed with those telcos, but don't those telcos, or cable companies care a little about their face? Why don't people get more active, like college students/journalists post news - I think that is where it would be a good start. Part of the reason why they do it because it is all quiet. Not because people don't have choice to switch (which is true) but because they just accept it and pay more from their wallets.
Speed bot
join:2010-10-30
canada

Speed bot

Member

Re: how about embarrassing them in news stories?

"how about embarrassing them in news stories?"

I've sent emails, but no one is airing anything on Shaw (Shaws paid the right people?) GlobalTV is owned by Shaw, so good luck there. The Vancouver sun did article on Vancouver city council trying to ban metered billing, As of yet though, no News cast has touched this. Once the general public is aware, the outcry will be heard in Tokyo.
vanDSLuser
from Vancouver 2010
Premium Member
join:2004-07-28
White Rock, BC

vanDSLuser

Premium Member

Re: how about embarrassing them in news stories?

CBC Marketplace - »www.cbc.ca/marketplace/ - it's the CBC so Shaw can't buy them to shut them up...
majred
join:2010-12-23
Winnipeg, MB

majred

Member

Note quite right..

I wouldn't go so far as to say Shaw has been "utterly non responsive" about the topic, but I would say it's been quiet at least.

They say the change will impact less than 9% of the 1.8 million customers they have. The question becomes, just how much will it impact that 9%?...

The realistic alternative would be for them to increase the cost of services for every single of the 1.8 million, or piss off about 160,000 of us..

I'm honestly not sure which of the two evils I'd rather take, but I will say the one they went with seems to be a lesser evil than the other...

Let's just hope the extra money they are charging is going to go directly toward network upgrades which in the end will make the services better for everyone.
vanDSLuser
from Vancouver 2010
Premium Member
join:2004-07-28
White Rock, BC

vanDSLuser

Premium Member

Re: Note quite right..

Utterly non responsive as in not being open and transparent, such lines as "it was a trial in Edmonton only" when their website clearly indicated to the contrary.

The fundamental question is, was this a cash grab and we will see the price increase anyways? If it follows the usual pattern, we will see a price increase regardless. Gotta pay for buying Global and to launch a cellular network somehow..

The other question is, 9% right now isn't close, but with HD videoconferencing, Steam and digital delivery growing year after year, how soon will it be until 40-50% are in danger of hitting the cap.

Someone who checks their email once a day, likely never going to be an issue, but with the increasing amount of services delivered digitally, it's going to slowly become an issue.

On another note, is Shaw going to cut back on the number of minutes they give their phone subscribers. After all, every minute must cost a massive amount of network resources, and there's no way they can afford to provide it unlimited forever....