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Review by Cyberian75 See Profile

  • Location: Beaverton,Washington,OR
  • Cost: $35 per month
  • Install: about 1 days
Good "Pretty Solid Connection"
Bad "Asymmetrical Speeds "
Overall "I would stay for now"
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My original review is at »/comment/59329

The transition from Verizon to Frontier was as smooth as possible. But then, I don't have TV with them. I just hope they don't put any caps.

UPDATE 10-25-2011:
I upgraded to their new 25/25 plan with a 2-year contract for $43.69 a month. I had to ask them to reboot my ONT a day after to get the change, though, so it wasn't that smooth. Anyway, I'm now getting 26/25 max. Sweet!

UPDATE 03-15-2012:
Their system conversion screwed up my tier profile, so I was only getting 15 down. A field tech had to come out to contact someone to recreate it after verifying the problem. Unsurprisingly, they've also screwed up my 2-year contract that I agreed to on October 24, 2011. I'm obviously not happy.

UPDATE 03-17-2012:
I called in to inquire, and surely enough, they couldn't find my contract; however, my monthly fee didn't change. So I agreed to a 2-year contract for a 5% discount. Now I get around 26/23 max.

UPDATE 10-10-2013:
I was having some kind of DHCP issue for 3 days; i.e., my router couldn't pull an IP address unless I call in and ask them to connect me manually. I had to call in 7 times, and a dispatch was scheduled finally; however, the issue resolved itself on the scheduled day. Thereafter, it's been rock solid and even faster. I get 26/25 max.

UPDATE 11-21-2014:
To reduce my monthly bill somewhat, I "upgraded" to their 30/5 package for $34.99. I was paying $45.99 for 25/25, so I guess I'll be saving around $120/year. But I'm a little disappointed that the upstream is so slow. Also, I was told that my area can't get higher speeds than 30mb/s. I guess they are still using BPon. I'll switch to Google Fiber when it comes in.

UPDATE 11-26-2014:
The previous rep was wrong! I just upgraded to their 50/10 plan for $39.98 which includes the $5 auto-pay discount. Still, I wish they'd offer symmetrical plans.

EDIT: I'm getting the "fluff" -- almost double the upstream.

UPDATE 01-17-2015:
I ordered the 30/5 FiOS plan for my father earlier this month, and we just found out that they charged him $149.99 for installation which was supposed to be free. The CSR admitted it and said it'd be adjusted within 3 days. Have to wait and see, but this is the first time something like this happened. Oh, and they set up wireless instead of wiring the PC which halved the speeds. I had to wire it myself costing me around $15. I don't understand why they did it that way when wireless is slower in most cases.

UPDATE 01-20-2015:
There was an isolated outage which involved both FiOS and phone. FiOS was down for almost 2 days and phone is still down. My phone is a lifeline... I use it only for emergencies! That's the only reason I still have it. I'm now thinking about canceling it. Oh, and I'm no longer getting the "fluff" upstream speed.

UPDATE 01-22-2015:
My phone service is back on, but I had to report it via chat whom then contacted a network engineer to check the switch. Obviously, they didn't even bother to test it after the outage.

Anyway, I downgraded my FiOS to 30/5. According to the CSR, I'm not getting the auto-pay discount since my plan isn't a stand-alone service.

EDIT: Another CSR applied that discount with no arguments or problems. I don't know who to believe.

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I'll switch to Google Fiber when it comes in.



Beaverton, OR

Re: Dreamin'

What's so funny?

Mukilteo, WA

Re: Dreamin'

Good question, as Portland Oregon has been on the Google Fiber list of 'things to do' for quite a while. But it will be interesting as to how far out of Multnomah county (or Portland proper for that matter) they end up actually building.

I did a lot of the burial engineering in the Washington and Clackamas Country areas for GTE WAY back in the early 70's when Oregon made all new build-outs for utility construction underground mandatory. I wonder if anyone has done any studies the past 40+ years looking at the weather related outages vr. say, Washington State.

Review by JFParnell See Profile

  • Location: Bothell,Snohomish,WA
  • Cost: $44 per month (24 month contract)
Good "Flys under the radar. No data Caps."
Bad "Haven't increased their speed since Verizon dumped us; Customer service blows"
Overall "Okay, but speeds should increase to catch up with other providers."
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Let me say that when we had Verizon FIOS I absolutely loved it. The price kept going down, and speeds kept going up. Now that Verizon has dumped all of Washington FIOS on Frontier, Frontier just doesn't know how to handle it. I am paying for 15/5 and getting about 12/2.5. The maximum that I can receive from Frontier is 35/15 if I pay for their crappy phone service. I have dumped them as a phone provider and went with Callcentric, and I also have no TV. I am paying $43 per month for just internet at 15/5. This is no longer a great price. There is obviously no infrastructure expansion. Frontier just doesn't know how to run a modern fiber based network in a major metropolitan area. Advertised speeds have stayed exactly the same, and tested speeds have dropped. Unfortunately we in Washington state with FIOS are not served very well at all by Frontier. Frontier doesn't realize that they have a Ferrrari sitting in the garage, and they continue to hitch it to the family mule. Welcome to the Beverly Hillbillies of Internet Service Providers. Jethro and Pa will be right out to help you with your internets.

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Avondale, AZ

Switching over

I'm sure after the sale to Frontier, Frontier started to switch you guys off of Verizon's network after contracts expire and started switching over to frontier's network. Slower, older, with a attitude of we don't care.

Review by Mannus See Profile

  • Location: Fort Wayne,Allen,IN
  • Cost: $45 per month
Good "works, better than advertised speeds"
Bad "CS is pain to work with. Long hold queues"
Overall "works"
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My Other Reviews

08-2010 Part of the Frontier switch over from Verizon. No service hiccups thus far. I am internet only on Cat5e to my D-Link DIR-655 router and get 25/8 speeds on my 15/5 package consistently.

Pre-sales, install co-ord, and tech supp I rated as average only because they do not apply in my particular situation. Ordering and install was done previously and I have not needed tech support since initial install.

See my Verizon FiOS review.

01-2011 - So far service has been problem free since the transition to Frontier.
Seeing ~25/8 speeds on my 15/5 connection rather consistently.

04-2011 Switched out my DIR-655 for Samknows WNR3500L Gigabit router back in February of 2011 and noticed a slight increase in throughput. Service has been rock steady. Speeds average ~23/~22 up and down respectively.

12-2011 Called CS (2 hour ordeal) to get current pricing which is 35.99 for 15/5 tier plus 5.00 additional for internet only. 9.00/month saving and still better than advertised speeds.

06-2012 Service is still performing above average with almost symmetrical ~25/~25 speeds on a 15/5 plan. Don't know how much longer it will last as I may have to move.

08-2012 Frontier finally caught up with me and adjusted by speed to ~15/5. No more fluff

11-2012 1st service call/tech visit in 6 years. Had ONT replaced after loosing connection. Tech was competent and friendly. Service call was almost three hours. He even called me the next day to make sure everything was still working.

04-2013 Bumped by package up to the 25/10 tier. 49.99 month to month

04-2014 Moved to a new place and managed to get a 5.00 monthly credit after I informed Frontier comcast was offering me 50/10 for 50.00. I am happy w/ my current tier and now I get to save some money also.

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Review by mhavlovick See Profile

  • Location: Washougal,Clark,WA
  • Cost: $40 per month
  • Install: about 10 days
Good "The Price"
Bad "Unreliable for Gaming/VOIP"
Overall "Great for everything but real-time applications"
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I was previously a Comcast customer and the internet connection was great, but I felt the price was too high. I got tired of the "I'm going to cancel" game in order to get a decent price and I was told by others the Frontier FiOS was great and reasonably priced... So I switched.

Frontier FiOS is probably great for the customer that does web browsing, File downloads, media streaming, etc, but not for a gaming or VOIP without frequent disconnections. Running smoke pings haven't turned up anything significant, but the last few times I've played online, I had a ping to google running and confirmed I was getting "request timed out" messages during the time I was getting the disconnects. Pinging my first hop never returned any lost packets during this time, so I suspect that it's just Frontier's network/infrastructure that's the cause.

The order process could be better. I had issues with their website while trying to order online, but ordering by phone was at least satisfactory.

The install process went great. The Tech was extremely knowledgeable and worked quickly, efficiently and took great care in not doing any damage to the property for the install.

I am going to contact Frontier support and probably give it another month to see if anything improves before going back to Comcast.

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Review by podamis314 See Profile

  • Location: Burnsville,Yancey,NC
  • Cost: $35 per month
  • Install: about 500 days
Good "Nice competent staff people"
Bad "service cuts out many times each day"
Overall "install another server for our area ?"

The service quits throughout the day and into the early evening. Techs have been to the house 3 times to try to fix the system. The 4th visit is pending as I write this. The techs we've met seemed competent and were very professional, same for the call center people whom we've contacted about 8 times. We are weary of calling- 15 min to half an hour on hold going through the litany of explaining the problem, unplugging and resetting to no effect then scheduling a tech to visit. Instead of calling we usually just give up - do something else and try again an hour later. We only call when we have time to wait The number of outages is frequent averaging several times per day especially an hour so after about 7:30pm and somewhat less frequently after7:30pm. These outages usually go on for about an hour for up to 5 hours. PLEASE INSTALL ADEQUATE SERVER CAPACITY FOR THE SYSTEM - IMHO THIS IS THE CAUSE OF THE FAILURES. YOU HAVE COMPETENT EMPLOYEES .

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Review by Chawk12 See Profile

  • Location: Everett,Snohomish,WA
  • Cost: $160 per month (12 month contract)
  • Install: about 7 days
Good "Consistant internet speeds"
Bad "A landline I rarely use"
Overall "Better deal than what I was getting from Comcast"
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Fios triple play. 15/5 M internet, $19.99 a month. Digital phone unlimited,$28 a month Extreme HD TV has all the sports channels I want. $74.99. HBO: $16.99. DVR STB $15.99

Love the internet speed and reliability. TV is a better deal than what Comcast was charging me.

Techs were very helpful on the set up.

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Review by sir didymus See Profile

  • Location: Snohomish,Snohomish,WA
  • Cost: $170 per month (24 month contract)
  • Install: about 1 days
Good "At least Frontier is still interested in Internet Service"
Bad "They really want to price you out of FiOS TV now"
Overall "Unbundle it! Ditch Frontier for TV."
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As a long time FiOS customer (way before it was Frontier), I was dismayed to hear that my bill would raise from $90/mo (pre-tax) to $170/mo (pre-tax) due to the "end of bundling discounts that Frontier can no longer offer".

In working through this process, I found that the Internet service was only $50 and that the TV would add $90/mo for the service I used to pay $45 for. Adding phone service would add about $10 after they give you a $10 bundle credit because you took the phone.

I think it's pretty obvious they really don't care to sell FiOS TV any more either. All FiOS TV bundles on their web site state "call for pricing" now.

I only had the phone line because it was required to set up the $90/mo bundle two years ago. To this day, all Frontier bundles must include phone service because Frontier is "here to stay" like that. It mostly worked, but who REALLY needs a land line these days?

I chose to unbundle and go to $50/mo for FiOS 25 Mbps Internet only. It seems this is what Frontier really wants you to do anyways.

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Bothell, WA

Yeah, Fios tv is stuck in the rut.

I agree, my FiosTV Extreme is at $75 per month (unbundled). It includes everything but the Fox Sports East/Central West and the .tv channels.
However, I can get AAA/Directv Premiere for $70, including all of the movie channels ($36/mo. from Frontier) for the first. Yes, the second year it does go up $30.

Frontier at Everett Mall signed me up for a 1 year Double-play without me agreeing, though it is good at $71 for 35/15 MB and Phone. My Frontier bill with 1 HD, 1 cablecard, 2 SD, 1 adapter boxes is now over $165 and will be going up 35 or 50 a month as discounts fall off.

Review by darcilicious See Profile

  • Location: Forest Grove,Washington,OR
  • Cost: $120 per month
Good "No drastic changes for me with the transition"
Bad "Online website for account management (bills, etc) is flakey as hell"
Overall "I'm with Frontier until they start dumping channels or raising prices"

December 2012
Nothing new to report. Haven't changed our package, still getting the advertised speed for the most part though upload isn't quite as consistent as it once but not a deal breaker. Not on a contract, still have the old (2009) Extreme HD package the only new channel not included has been FSCHD but oh, well.

July 10, 2010

Bad point:
* Noticed the other day that none of the episodes for HD TV shows have been updated past 6/30. Once again, VOD via Verizon/Frontier proven to be worthless. (There was about 6+ months starting mid-Fall '09 where Vz was weeks behind or completely missing episodes via VOD).

July 6, 2010

Good points:
* No change in speed (I have 25/25 and got 26/23 this morning to a good/consistent speed test site that I use regularly)
* No change in channel line up, or other TV programming like VOD

Bad points:
* Trying to access my account info (bills, etc) has been a nightmare all day. Earlier, the pages weren't even rendering correctly (in either Firefox or IE). And now this evening, the website returns "http/1.1 Service Unavailable"
* Us ex-Verizon customers are a long way from being integrated into Frontier systems, if it ever actually happens completely. Frontier basically received cloned versions of Verizon's site, so we're totally separate and I can't help but wonder how well they'll be able to maintain it.

Not much else to say at this point though I'm curious to see if we ever receive new channels, if various web-based services (access to DVRs and the like) are ever re-implemented by Frontier, and what kind of IMG updates we receive, if any.

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Review by TSUFtWayne See Profile

  • Location: Fort Wayne,Allen,IN
  • Cost: $70 per month (12 month contract)
  • Install: about 11 days
Good "Very fast Internet, probably the fastest internet available in this area"
Bad "Old Equipment (Outdated Actiontec Router), VERY POOR C.S., Terrible Wireless Sgnal Degradation @only 35ft from Router!"
Overall "I'm in the process of wiring the whole house with CAT 6 Ethernet Cable to ensure I get the speed I'm paying for, 35/25"

This is the company (Frontier) that bought the Ft. Wayne/Allen County Market from Verizon when Verizon bowed out to focus on their wireless business & get out of the Internet, Phone & TV Business. Approximately 8yrs ago Verizon came into town & decided to enter the TV, Phone & Internet business with a huge bonus to everyone living here by dropping ALL NEW FIOS underground cable. They wired the whole city & all the outlying areas in Allen County as well & from day one we ordered the whole package. It was by far the best for not just internet service, but also for TV & Phone service too. They were unbeatable in almost every area, including terrific CS. Things were great until Frontier took over & now it's an absolute nightmare. Frontier wasn't prepared to handle a market of this size (about 500,000 people in the Fort Wayne/Allen County Area). Aside from being overwhelmed & understaffed they also managed to close many of the CS centers here in the city, & left only one of them open! It's been a couple of years since they took over & they're by far the worst company I've ever dealt with from not just a CS standpoint, but also because they don't keep up with their current equipment, nor do they seem to know how to maintain or effectively utilize their network control center equipment, because just calling CS with an issue will often result in you losing your service for days, sometimes weeks without any end in sight & despite multiple calls that get routed to nearly every state in the Lower 48. Clearly they just don't have a good system for CS computer training or for Field Techs. It's basically like rolling the dice on what you'll get when you call CS & ask for a Tech to come out. Anything, & I'm not exaggerating, can happen. From them completely screwing up your connection, to Field Techs that don't know or understand basic network terminology when you try to get questions answered. If it weren't for the fact that they still have the fastest internet available here (really this is only because Verizon installed all new FIOS Cable in the area) then we'd be with Comcast or one of the other many optional Internet Service Providers here in Fort Wayne. We did dump their TV service & we REALLY miss Verizon & have hopes they'll return, but it's not looking too likely. As for the chance Frontier will get better, well, I still have an old Actiontec Router that Frontier simply put their sticker over the Verizon Logo on & has been in use since the lines were installed here in the early 2000's. This is common practice though, as I have friends who've got Motorola HD DVR boxes with Frontier Stickers covering the front part of the DVR that had the Verizon logo on it. It's clear that updating their equipment isn't in the cards for Frontier anytime soon, & what they don't understand is more & more folks in Fort Wayne are going back to Comcast & other providers simply because of the absolutely terrible & inadequate CS Frontier "provides". It's almost become a joke here in town & I hope no one has to go through the consistent nightmare we've had to endure since Frontier took over the market here & ruined the best FIOS System I've ever had the pleasure of being online with. I know many folks have written letters to the editor of our local paper, complained to Frontier & even gone to the extent of complaining to the BBB & Consumer Affairs in some cases. Yeah, it's really THAT BAD!!!

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Review by kegill See Profile

  • Location: Lynnwood,Snohomish,WA
  • Cost Contract price not specified.
Good "When it works, it's great"
Bad "On hold for support 2 hours today"
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UPDATE 8:53 pm, 30 Sept :
Tech support now says 24-48 hours before the WA DNS issue is fixed.

Just got off the phone with tech support, who confirmed that I cannot change DNS servers even though it looks as though you can do so in the admin interface on the router. "You can only use our DNS servers." No response to why the policy is different from Verizon's, which provides a "how to" guide on bypassing their DSN assistance.

*** Original post ***

Apparently a DNS server went down in Washington state today. But there's nothing that I can find on the Frontier.com website with service status. [*]

So I was on hold for 61 minutes before I got to a tech ... who told me about the (corrected) outage and had me test the line. It was back up. Five minutes after I hung up, I couldn't access Google again. Ping worked, traceroute broken at the router. Two separate calls to support; each call was summarily disconnected at 30 minute wait time.

Our service is 20Mbps/5Mbps. We usually get this or pretty close to this. Sometimes it's half this rate, though.

We are a double-play account. We have had periodic artifacts (pixelation) on DVR recorded shows. We watch PBS and SciFi channels the most -- and almost no live TV. We watched HD Movies this week and had some pixelation there. Frontier has changed our tuner box once. Our modem is still 10/100.

Couldn't log in to the new (yet another redesign) online BillPay today.

We were Verizon FiOS customers, customers who were sold to Frontier so that Verizon could concentrate on more densely populated (more financially lucrative) markets.

[*] But I use OpenDNS ... so now I'm really confused.

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