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Seen in this post by [ dynodb Excluding web/mail servers and the like, a DSL connection consists of the following path elements (applies specifically for non-FTTN): 1. Local loop- copper between the DSLAM and the customer modem. 2. DSLAM trunk- ATM T1s, DS3, or OC3. 3. ATM cloud- the ATM switches and internodal trunks between switches. 4. ISP trunk- the ATM trunk (T1s, DS3 or higher for 3M and above customer speeds) that feeds the ISP gateway router. Elements 1-3 are the same (depending on the ATM cloud path) regardless whether Qwest or a 3rd party ISP like Xmission are providing IP services. 4 will be different, as it's a dedicated trunk to the ISP router. So while much of the network is the same, it's not completely the same physical network. [Added by [ christcorp
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