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Last modified on 2008-08-11 19:39:14

2.3 Efficient 5861/Cabletron255 Router

·Efficient 5861 will not log on to the ameritech network
·Configuring Router for the 5 Static IP address Package
·Efficient 5861 router console pinouts
·How do I reset the password?
·How do I hyperterminal If I don't have a dongle?
·How do I build a Cable for Dial Backup?
·How do I Configure an Efficient 5861 for Dial Backup?
·5861 static IP setup, direct IP assignment to PC
·Setting 5861 to bridge mode
If the Ameritech technician did not run the setup script on the router it will not sign on out of the box.

The updated kernel and installation script is located here.

Use the configuration manager that came with the router to run the script. The login password will go back to the default after the script is finished.

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by RadioDoc See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2005-06-28 13:38:03

If you have the 5 static IP address "Office+" package, here's how to set up the 5861 router to use them. Also see this forum thread for instructions on how to configure direct mapping to your computers.

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by RadioDoc See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2005-06-28 13:30:39

See This Thread for instructions on how to wire a DB9-to-RJ45 adapter for console access.

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by RadioDoc See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2005-06-28 13:31:19

For routers with the reset button and no dipswitches, you must push the button and hold it for five seconds until the test LED turns amber. At that time the router will accept the six numbers from the serial number label as the password or "admin". The router will not need to be rebooted after you have logged on, the LED will change back to green in a few minutes. This will work for telnet, hyperterminal and the configuration manager software also. The six numbers in the serial number are usually preceeded by a letter:

Ex: F221800 (you would drop the "F" and only use 221800)

Once you've gotten in you can change the pass by typing:

sys admin "new password"

save

sync

That's all...

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by Dennis See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2005-06-28 13:31:42

RJ-45---DB-9
6-----------8
5-----------5
4-----------3
2-----------7
1-----------2

Keep in mind this is a female RJ-45, so the 1-8 are reversed
_____| |_____
|.....................|
|.....................|
8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
(ignore the dots in the pic, had to do it to keep the spacing

BTW, I've actually created a dongle from scratch using this diagram, and it worked like a charm..:D

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by Dennis See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2005-06-28 13:32:01

The Efficient 5861 Router has the ability to connect to the Internet with a dial-up modem when the primary DSL circuit fails. To implement this, you need to connect a modem to the jack on the router labelled "CONSOLE". The table at the end of this post lists the pin-outs required to assemble a cable for this purpose.

There are at least two ways to construct such a cable:

1. Use a regular ("straight") network jumper cable and an RJ45-to-DB25M adapter. In this case, wire the RJ45-to-DB25M adapter using columns "C" and "D" of the table (or if your modem has a 9-pin connector, use an RJ45-to-DB9M adapter with columns "C" and "E"). A suitable network jumper cable should have been provided with your router -- it is the one with the red label.

2. Take a regular ("straight") network jumper cable, cut one end off, and crimp or solder the cut end to a DB25M plug. In this case, use columns "B" and "D" of the table (or if your modem has a 9-pin connector, use a DB9M plug and columns "B" and "E").

The only difficult part of this project is splicing the wire from pin 6 of the Console port to allow it to connect to two pins in the modem connector. In my testing with a U.S. Robotics modem, it appears that the "RTS" connection (pin 4 in a 25-pin connector, or pin 7 in a 9-pin connector) is not required. You may wish to try the cable without the "splice" first -- if it doesn't work, then you will have to find some way of splicing the two wires from the modem side to the single wire coming from the router side.

PARTS SOURCES:

(Note: please verify part numbers and prices BEFORE ordering! Part numbers may change and there is always the possibility of a typo...)

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Complete Cable Kit (Straight Data Cable and both 9 Pin and 25 Pin adapters): Part #120-0501-001 direct from Efficient Networks' on-line store at »store.efficient.com

Select "accessories" and the kit should pop up with a nice picture. (Searching for the part number or "dial backup" doesn't work!) The price is $60 plus $14 shipping!
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DBxxM to RJ45 Adapters: Part #131-2070 (25 Pin) or #131 2050 (9 Pin) from »www.cyberguys.com. Prices are under $2.00 (plus shipping).
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DBxxM Plugs - Crimp Style: Part #161 2110 (25 Pin) or #161 2080 (9 Pin) from Cyberguys (link above). Priced at 39 cents each (plus shipping). You will also need some pins (part #161 2120, a hundred for $2.13) and a hood (#161 2150 for 25 pin, #161 2140 for 9 pin, each 39 cents). And if you don't have (and can't borrow one) a crimping tool (#115 2195) for $8.55 and probably an insertion/extraction tool (#115 2196) for $2.99.
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DBxxM Plugs - Solder Style: Part #161 2070 (25 Pin) or #161 2000 (9 Pin) for 39 cents each (plus shipping) from Cyberguys (link above). You'll also want a hood (#161 2150 for 25 pin, #161 2140 for 9 pin, both 39 cents each).
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Similar parts should also be available from Radio Shack - though I could not find all of the parts in their on-line store.

Good luck!

(NOTE: Step-by-step instructions for configuring the router for dial backup are provided in an accompanying post).
ABCDEF
Console PortUTP Network Cable RJ45-RS232 Adapter Modem (25Pin)Modem (9Pin)Function
1White/OrangeBlue23TD
2OrangeOrange58CTS
3White/GreenBlackNot UsedNot UsedNot Used
4BlueRed32RD
5White/BlueGreen75SG
6GreenYellow20 & 44 & 7DTR & RTS
7White/BrownBrownNot UsedNot UsedNot Used
8BrownWhite*Not UsedNot UsedNot Used

*Some adapter manufacturers use Grey instead of White for Pin 8

Legend:

TD = Transmitted Data (To Modem)
CTS = Clear to Send (From Modem)
RD = Received Data (From Modem)
SG = Signal Ground
DTR = Data Terminal Ready (To Modem)
RTS = Request to Send (To Modem)

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by John Taylor See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2005-06-28 13:32:23

This procedure submitted 10/14/02

Efficient has recently added a "Dial Backup" function to their 5800 series routers. This function allows the router to connect to the Internet via a modem when the primary DSL connection is down. It requires the addition of a conventional "smart" modem attached to the "Console" port on the router. You must also have a dial-up account that the modem can use and, of course, a working "POTS" phone line for the modem to dial out on. You can use the same phone line that is used for the DSL service, but for greatest reliability a different phone line should be used. (The documentation indicates that the router can also dial out over an ISDN circuit. This procedure does not address that alternative).

Once the router and modem are installed and configured, all users connected to the router will continue to have access to the Internet when the primary DSL circuit is out of service. Of course, the bandwidth of the connection will be reduced to that of the dial-up connection, but in most cases a slow Internet connection is better than no connection at all. The dial-up connection will be assigned a dynamic IP address, so in-bound access to servers or other services which depend upon a static IP address will not be possible while in the dial-up mode.

Warnings and caveats:

1. This procedure has been tested using an Efficient Speedstream 5861 router with part number 120-5861-005 in an Ameritech environment (testing was done in Wisconsin). The modem used for the test was a 3COM/US Robotics external 56K FaxModem. Changes to the procedure may be needed for other equipment and/or service providers.

2. The Dial Backup feature requires that the router be equipped with a version 5.0 or above kernel. Ameritech does not support that kernel at this time. The kernel being used is provided by Efficient, and Efficient MIGHT be willing to assist you in the event of a problem with the new kernel, but ultimately you are on your own. Do not make these changes unless you are confident that you can resolve any router-related problems on your own and/or reload the standard kernel prior to requesting support from Ameritech or Efficient.

3. Installing a kernel update is potentially dangerous to the health of your router and if done incorrectly your router may be rendered inoperable. Again, do not proceed with these changes unless you are confident that you can resolve any router-related problems on your own.

4. The new kernel does not support SNMP and any application dependent upon that service will no longer function after the upgrade. This includes the "Configuration Manager" and "Port Monitor" programs provided with the router. A new web-based interface will replace some of the functions of those programs.

5. When the configuration is complete, the console port's function will be changed to allow it to control the modem. You will no longer be able to use the port to access the console functions. A telnet session will be required to access the command line for configuration and monitoring purposes.

6. During a DSL outage, the modem's unattended automatic dialing can result in a huge number of phone calls and/or extremely long phone calls being placed. Make sure that the number being dialed is local and that you are prepared to pay for any message unit/time usage/long distance charges that may result!

Procedure:

1. Obtain the updated kernel from Efficient's web site. The current link is:

»kb.efficient.com/display/1n/kb/a···id=45991

The current file (version 5.3.2, 10/14/02) is 5861005-5320.ZIP. You should also open and print the "Install Instructions (PDF)" on the same page.

2. Make sure you know your DSL account's login name and password, your router's security word, the IP address of your router, and have a list of any customizations that you have previously made to the router's configuration.

3. Install the new kernel using the instructions provided by Efficient. These are in the PDF file that you printed in step 1.

4. Once you are back on-line with the new kernel, verify that you can access the new web-based configuration screens by browsing to:

192.168.254.254/admin_gui

Substitute your router's IP address if it is different than the default 192.168.254.254. You should receive a request for a user name and password. Enter "login" (without the quotation marks) as the user name, and your router's security word as the password. If all is well, you will be presented with a screen with a list of menu items on the left and a "Router Information" display on the right.

5. Select the menu item to "Set Dial Backup". You will be prompted for a user name, password, phone number, and (optional) alternate phone number. This is the information for your dial-up account and will be used by the router to identify itself when dialing out through the modem. Enter this information and be sure to check the "Enable Dial Backup" button, then click on "OK" to continue to the second Dial Backup configuration screen.

[If you are an Ameritech DSL customer, your DSL package includes dial-up access at no additional charge. Your logon name and password are the same as those you use for your DSL logon. You can get a list of local dial-up phone numbers by logging on to the "Member Services" area of www.ameritech.net and then selecting "Access Numbers". Select the "Access Numbers and Server Settings" option and then the link to "list of dial-up locations". Pick a number that will be a local call for the modem attached to the router.]

6. The second Dial Backup configuration screen will ask you for configuration parameters for the dial-up function. For testing purposes, set the "Failover to backup after connection is lost for:" value to 1 minute and the "Retry DSL after DSL connection has been lost for" value to 2 minutes. Make sure the "Use DNS" box is checked. Leave all of the other fields set to the defaults. Select "Save and Reboot" and the router will save the dial backup configuration and then restart.

7. Now all that remains is the installation of the modem. If you are using a 3COM/US Robotics modem, verify that the dip switches are set to the factory defaults (1, 2, 4, 6 & 7 UP and 3, 5 & 8 DOWN). Connect a cable (see accompanying post for construction details) between the "Console" port on the Efficient router and the RS232 port on the USR modem. Connect a phone line from the "wall" jack on the modem to the phone line which you will be using for dialing out. Power up the modem.

8. The dial backup should now be functional. Test it by disconnecting the DSL phone line from the router. Wait for one minute and then try to browse to an Internet site. The modem should wake up, dial out, and log in. Once that has occurred, you should be able to browse the Internet as usual (although more slowly than normal).

9. Plug the DSL phone line back in. Within two minutes after the link is re-established, the modem should disconnect and you should be able to access the Internet as usual through the DSL circuit.

10. Go back into the second dial backup configuration screen (step 6 above) and reset the two timing values to your preferred values. The defaults are 3 minutes ("Failover to backup") and 30 minutes "Retry DSL".

NOTES:

A) Although it is not apparent from the documentation, the modem connection appears to be maintained only "on demand". If no process is attempting to access the Internet the modem connection will be dropped after approximately 2 minutes. A subsequent access to the Internet will cause the modem to dial out again.

B) It is also possible to configure dial backup using the command line interface. Refer to the documentation for details. In particular, the "System List" command is helpful since it lists the dial backup configuration information and shows the time remaining if a count-down is in progress.

C) A cable kit to connect a modem to the 5861 router is available from Efficient. Their part number is 120-0501-001 priced at $60 plus $14 shipping. If you prefer to build your own, instructions are provided in an accompanying post.

Good Luck! (And thanks to the other DSL Reports users who assisted me with this project).

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by John Taylor See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2006-12-12 17:00:57

Basically some people don't want to use the addhostmapping command as shown here. There are a number of valid reasons for this such as running servers that require ip verification, to VPN. Either way if you want to assign that static IP's directly to the machine all you have to do is follow this setup.

Note: I still recommend that you use addhostmapping unless you have no other choice, because that method still allows you to have as many NAT computers on your lan as you want (up to 18 by default). Where as this method only allows 5 computers max.

Ok, so what do you do? Basically you remove NAT, remove the default DHCP ip pool, change your Eth IP and thats it.

So here is the block we are working with:
xxx.xxx.xxx.104 Network (not useable)
xxx.xxx.xxx.105 Free
xxx.xxx.xxx.106 Free
xxx.xxx.xxx.107 Free
xxx.xxx.xxx.108 Free
xxx.xxx.xxx.109 Free
xxx.xxx.xxx.110 Router Wan port
xxx.xxx.xxx.111 Broadcast (not usable)
Ex:

dhcp del 192.168.254.0
(removes current block)
dhcp set mask xxx.xxx.xxx.104 255.255.255.248
dhcp set add xxx.xxx.xxx.105 xxx.xxx.xxx.109
eth ip addr xxx.xxx.xxx.110 255.255.255.0
eth ip mgmt xxx.1xxx.xxx.110 255.255.255.0
rem setiptranslate off internet
save
sync
save

Voila! Easy as pie.

Courtesy of Dennis See Profile posted in the forum here.

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by RadioDoc See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2005-06-28 13:33:34

You can set the router to bridge mode fairly easily. At that point the entire logical connection and LAN-side routing is up to you to handle.

First, enable bridging, and map the router as a bridge.
Then, disable NAT and DHCP.
The commands are as follows:

# rem enabridge internet
# rem setbroptions stp on internet (this may need to be # rem setbroptions pppoeonly on internet)
# rem setiptranslate off internet
# dhcp disable all
# eth ip addr 255.255.255.0
# save
# sync
# save
# reboot

Instructions from http://www.longshome.com/5861_to_bridge.htm.

Note that once you do this you will only be able to talk to the router config via the console port unless you do a hard factory defaults reset.

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by RadioDoc See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2005-06-28 13:34:06



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