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Last modified on 2012-01-20 20:52:07

5.2 Migrating to Yahoo!DSL

Just visit the website http://yahoo.sbc.com/activatedsl/download.html.

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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-01-22 13:03:15

No, just visit the site and run through the registration.

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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-01-22 13:03:43

When you migrate your account you will have the EXACT same service as before with some added features. The only thing you will need to worry about is that your e-mail will be sent to different servers and your account info is now accessible at sbc.yahoo.com. Aside from that your connection and everything else will be the same. The "Extra" features will be selected during the migration.

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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-01-22 13:02:25

What changes will be made?

1. Your new e-mail settings will be POP (incoming): pop.ameritech.yahoo.com SMTP (outgoing): smtp.ameritech.yahoo.com. The outgoing server requires authentication and the login id needs to be (userid)@ameritech.net (no parenthesis). One interesting addition is that, due to the authentication used, you do not need to be on your Ameritech DSL or dialup to use the outbound server.

2. Instead of accessing your account information at www.ameritech.net you will now log into sbc.yahoo.com. This site has more features and is more stable.

3. Up to 10 sub-accounts.

4. "Premium Services" that include the ability to upgrade the size of your inbox.

5. Web based e-mail access.

6. Nationwide dialup access. Just use your normal DSL login and password.

7. Better tech support (just kidding :))


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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-01-22 13:02:10

Your e-mail address will be the same. Your speed plan will not change from what you have now, and will be reclassified within the following ranges: 192-384/128, 384-768/128, 768-1500/256, 1500-4000/384. The speed reclassification is not part of the Yahoo transition, but rather an ongoing effort by SBC to standardize all of their DSL offerings.

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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-01-30 21:05:24

Simply put, no. Non-XP and Mac users (OS 9 and below) have the option of installing the connection manager program that runs Enternet 300 in the background and monitor your connection for possible errors. And Windows users can download the Yahoo! browser (Internet Explorer with a different skin) and/or SBC Dialup Connection Manager.

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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-12-09 05:47:14

www.ameritech.net will be disappearing so you won't have a web page to log into to change your password or manage your account.

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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-01-22 12:54:24

No.

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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-01-22 12:51:58

The new servers are out in California somewhere, and are not the same as we have previously used. It's anyone's guess if they will be any better, and only time will tell.

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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-01-22 12:51:26

Visit »yahoo.sbc.com/activatedsl/download.html and click on CD Request form.

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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-01-22 12:49:02

Those will be going away soon but that has nothing to do with the Yahoo! migration.

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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-01-22 12:49:28

Log into sbc.yahoo.com and select each sub-account and migrate them manually. Make the proper setting changes in your e-mail client.

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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-01-22 12:50:31

If you already have a free @yahoo.com e-mail address you can "merge" it into your SBC/Yahoo account. With this all e-mail will sent to that e-mail address will show up in your SBC inbox. The benefit is a larger e-mail box.

From the Yahoo website:
Please note: If you map your existing Yahoo! account to your SBC Yahoo! account, in the future, you can continue to use your Yahoo! ID even if you decide to cancel your SBC Yahoo! service.

Yahoo! will give you step by step instructions to unmerge your Yahoo! ID and save all of your data and settings.

Parts of this entry submitted by dragont See Profile.


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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2005-11-16 11:30:56

The new Yahoo mail servers have a few significant differences over the old Ameritech servers other than the obvious change to smtp.ameritech.yahoo.com.

First, the servers require authentication. This authentication consists of the full username (e.g. username@ameritech.net) and password. Most modern MTA's will authenticate to a relay host (also known as a smart host). The Yahoo servers only accept basic authentication - PLAIN(cleartext) or LOGIN(hashed account info).

Secondly, Yahoo sends MTA's to a "fake" mail server (nomail.yahoo.com) via a false MX record. This may be to prevent the spread of worms and viruses with built-in SMTP servers or may be to prevent folks from running MTA's. Regardless, to prevent the lookup and use of this false MX record, most MTA's require [square brackets] around the host or IP address(Microsoft).

Although Yahoo's FAQ says the From: field requires your username@ameritech.net address, this is not true. You can have username@otherdomain.com in the From: field.

Examples of necessary changes for MTA's:

Postfix - Use a current version that supports SASL (not sure but TLS can't hurt).
Add the following lines to the main.cf configuration file -

smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/path/to/local/postfix/saslpasswd

change the following line to point to the new smtp relay host (notice the brackets) - relayhost = [smtp.ameritech.yahoo.com]

Create a the file /path/to/local/postfix/saslpasswd with your favorite editor and place the following line at the top of the file (notice that the name differs from the smtp.ameritech.yahoo.com, it is just an alias to the actual name listed) - smtp-sbc.mail.yahoo.com(insert space or tab)username@ameritech.net:password

Then run the command "postmap /path/to/local/postfix/saslpasswd". Finally, do a "postfix reload" so the changes take effect.

Microsoft IIS SMTP Server - Select the option under route domain to forward all mail to smart host. Enter the IP address of the host in brackets to prevent the MX lookup [63.163.171.137].

Select Basic authentication on the Outbound authentication tab and enter your account info.

Sendmail - Not many details available. It is reported that Sendmail 8.11.6 works with sendmail-tls using the smtp-auth features.

smtp-sbc.mail.yahoo.com(insert space or tab)username@ameritech.net:password

SBC changed the reverse lookup on the hostname in late September 2003. Users experiencing difficulty sending messages and seeing authentication errors in their MTA logs likely have to update their saslpasswd file to include the new hostname - smtp-sbc.mail.yahoo.com.

Also, see an excellent writeup on how to use Smarthost to make the decisions on where to send outgoing mail, especially to other Ameritech.net and SBCGlobal.net domains. It was written by forum member efflandt.


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by mibsy See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-09-30 01:26:37

Dial Connection Manager:
x:/setup/Yahoo/CM/setup.exe

DSL Connection Manager:
x:/etc/BrdJmp/SBCCMan.exe This will extract some files to c:\windows\temp one being setup.exe. Run that and it will install DSL Connection Manager.

Enternet 300:
x:/setup/efficient/reboot/setup.exe

SBC Yahoo! Parental Controls:
x:/setup/Yahoo/yfamily_setup.exe

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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-07-02 15:36:49

First of all make sure all boxes are checked "no" here: subscribe.yahoo.com/showaccount Beyond that it's all up to you to put up filters and such. The spam after migrating phenomenon has yet to have been accurately explained. Internal techs here and tech support both claim that Yahoo! doesn't spam it's customers, yet many start experiencing a sudden increase in spam after migrating. Meanwhile other have no notable increase in spam. My advice, never use your ISP as your primary e-mail address.


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by Maxo See Profile edited by lev See Profile
last modified: 2003-02-12 01:36:35

Originally posted my AmeritecTech in this forum thread.

Migrating is fairly easy and does not require a software download.

Conducting the migration:
Most customers should have a link in their e-mail now with the URL to migrate. If not, you may go to »sbc.yahoo.com/caredslactivate. At the beginning of the migration process, you will be asked your e-mail address. Supply the main ameritech.net userid here. Shortly after, it will offer the Bonus software, including dialup software, Connection Manager, and the SBC/Yahoo! browser. Here you may uncheck the software that you don't want, up to and including all of it. Connection Manager is strongly advised against, while the other two are fairly harmless. After migration is complete, you will reach a blank white page, signifying that you are done. You should now be able to login to the homepage at »sbc.yahoo.com.

Mail Settings:
Your new incoming mail server will be pop.ameritech.yahoo.com and your new outgoing mail server will be smtp.ameritech.yahoo.com. In the properties of that account, you will also need to select that the outgoing mail server requires authentication. Your account name for both the incoming and outgoing mail servers will be userid@ameritech.net. Please note that the automatic setup wizard of most mail clients do not put the @ameritech.net on the end of your account name, and for most mail clients you will need to add this manually.

Recently, there was a problem with mail delivery that caused e-mails to be delivered to the old mailhost.xxx.ameritech.net servers, but users experienced a delay receiving them on the new pop.ameritech.yahoo.com server. This appears to be resolved. If it crops up again, users will still be able to check their mail on their old mailhost.xxx.ameritech.net server. This is a temporary problem, and is said to be related to the large number of people conducting the migration at this time.

If you don't download the Yahoo browser (or the other software) during migration, you can go back to the same webpage at a later date, which will detect that you've already migrated and take you straight to the page to select the software to download. This also works if you want to install it on several different computers.
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by RadioDoc See Profile

Migration information for ATT Worldnet members (#13877)
    A: Here's what to do if you are an ATT Worldnet subscriber and don't want to lose your E-mail IDs (username@att.net), your Personal Web Space(s) (username.home.att.net), access to Worldnet's FTP (upload.att.net) and NNTP (netnews.att.net) servers, and any other Worldnet things, when you signup for ATT/SBC DSL.

    After your ATT/SBC DSL is up and running don't cancel your Worldnet subscription. Call Worldnet billing (1-800-400-1447) and tell them that you signed up for ATT/SBC DSL and are up and running and that you want to switch to Worldnet's "Zero Dollar E-mail" plan. That way you won't be paying anything to Worldnet but you get to keep all your Worldnet stuff except your ability to dial into the Worldnet network. You can access your Worldnet things while connected to the ATT/SBC DSL network.

    For instructions on how to setup your Worldnet E-mail/FTP/NNTP accounts to work while you are on the ATT/SBC network look on the 'Worldnet User's Reference Desk': »wurd.com/

    Here are the instructions for Mozilla E-mail: »wurd.com/cl_browser_mozilla_gia.php, Thunderbird E-mail: »wurd.com/cl_email_thunderbird_05_gia.php, Multizilla FTP: »wurd.com/pwp_filezilla.php#secure, Agent NNTP: »wurd.com/cl_news_agent.php, and Free Agent NNTP: »wurd.com/cl_news_fragent.php.

    The WURD site has instructions for other applications as well.

    For more up-to-date information visit the Worldnet DSL newsgroup.
    Usenet link: news://worldnet.help.dsl
    Webnews link: »webnews.att.net/webnews-cgi-bin/···help.dsl

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    last modified: 2006-03-19 21:27:45


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