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5.0 Buying/Selling tips
There are ways of preventing theft. I use these tools all the time and have prevented at least four occurrences where I could have lost money. 1. Check buyer and seller reviews in the For Sale/Wanted forum. 2. Check eBay feedback and Yahoo as well. If you want to verify their ID send an email through ebay or yahoo asking if they are who they say they are. 3. Beware when someone IM's you with offers to sell something you haven't requested to buy. 4. NEVER accept personal checks or PayPal credit cards belonging to someone other than the purchaser. 5. ONLY ship your goods to the owner of the credit card (PayPal payments). 6. Watch for conflicting stories during conversation and "corrected" addresses. 7. Beware of long absences during a deal. An honest seller will devote all his attention to you until the deal is done. 8. Watch closely for pictures that seem to be different, of the "same item". 9. Check other sites for forums that do have a WATCH LIST of bad sellers. Nine out of ten times, your seller will be doing his dirty deeds there as well. 10. NEVER make accusations you can not prove 1000%. You could destroy reputations that are good and could be civilly liable for slander and defamation of character. 11. Realize that the IFCC has limited power. You're basically out in the cold, flapping in the wind. The authorities aren't interested in frauds perpetrated unless the money involved is very substantial....somewhere in the neighborhood of $1,000 or more. 12. Use PayPal for your payments whenever possible. PayPal has an excellent security staff that has helped me recover funds in the past. 13. ONLY accept a U.S. Postal Service money order. They can't be stolen. Private money order companies' money orders are stolen all the time. 14. Try your best to keep a private "favorite sellers list" from past, trusted deals. Use those names first, even if the offer from an unknown name is better. --
Some infamous tactics:
Concealing that the BIOS setup password in set and unknown, especially on laptops.
Listing multiple 'new' or 'open box' items valued at over 1,000.00 each, but no listings for less expensive items (read: stolen)
Stating that an item is 'untested' or 'as is', but looks 'functional' (read: item was tested and found defective, but its visual appearance looks better than an item dragged behind a truck!).
Stripped laptops for parts (usually a mostly dismantled case, motherboard and display panel). Either the motherboard of display is always bad, but you can't really tell which. Both problems have the same symptoms.
Selling substitutes hype for obviously pertinent details.
International sellers from rogue nations.
Buyers prohibited to receive certain US exports: see http://www.bis.doc.gov/dpl/default.shtm
Buyers willing to send large cash shipments from blind addresses.
Sellers who have only an apartment number, city, state and zip, but no street (read: P.O. Box).
by smw315 If they aren't listed here, you might want to find out if they have a listing at Heatware, which is a private traders' evaluation and reference site used by members of various BBSs (Bulletin Boards' Traders Forums) which allow one to post evaluations of his or her private trades or deals with another. This includes FS/FT/WTB deals (For Sale, For Trade, Want To Buy). There are three evaluations from which to choose: Positive, Negative and Neutral. (heatware is a separate site from BBR/DSLR and thus we can't control the quality of reviews there.) It may also be useful to see if they have an Ebay account. If they do, you can search Ebay for info on that user HERE. To verify that the Ebay ID you found is correct send an email through Ebay asking just that.
by Axilla "Agreed. $22, you cover shipping. I will Paypal you immediately." This will help if needed at a later date to prove the person you dealt with hasn't followed the agreed deal, and may make that person be more motiovated to follow through since it is open for public view. by Axilla As far as actually paying for the item is concerned, each seller will have different acceptable payment methods. The preferred methods are usually online (Paypal, C2iT, ect..) or some type of check issued from your bank (money order or cashier's check.) by CjGaughan This way people know exactly what they are looking at, and this makes your potential buyers much happier by having all the info they need ready for them, instead of going out and searching for it themselves. If you make them work too hard, they may move on to another deal. by Axilla •Remember, this forum is for posting WTT, WTB and FS transactions. If you don't want to trade, buy or sell then there are other more appropriate places to discuss and gather information such as General Questions or Hardware Reviews. For example, price checks are *not* permitted here (i.e. "how much can I get for a ...".) The first thing you should do is to search Ebay, its a good way to find out what used products are worth. Another thing to look at is what the item is selling for new, a couple good places to check are Pricewatch and Price Grabber. These places should be able to give you a good idea what the item your buying/selling is really worth.
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