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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:29:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>2009-261 ADSL-CO proceedings</title>
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<description><![CDATA[As many are aware, the CRTC started a public consultation last year on the need to mandate access to equal speeds etc etc. 

This has since turned into a more significant process as Cabinet told the CRTC that its "ADSL-CO" public notice was taking more importance and a wider mandate which will help the CRTC "review and vary" the equal speeds decisions. (aka: Cabinet didn't want to do it for Bell, they want to postpone this decision until after an election).

The current process is documented at:
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/PartVII/eng/2009/8663/c12_200907321.htm

The next deadline for submissions is February 8th.

Meanwhile, the UBB decision is expected 3rd week of february (but could arrive sooner, especially if the media is focused on the olympics)

This is a "work in progress", but there are a few new participants since the new scope was mandated by Cabinet (and the public hearings will be in May with a new slate of participants).

Is there an interest in discussing this, and posting the various submissions, or will people just wait a day or two to find them on the CRTC's web site ?]]></description>
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<pubDate>2010-01-31 04:01:22</pubDate>
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<title>Bruce &#x26;amp; Grey County Competition</title>
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<description><![CDATA[These two articles give us some insight into the competitive nature and fees between Bell and Bruce Telecom. EastLink is in there, as well.

http://www.owensoundsuntimes.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2440435

 quote:Competition is heating up for Bruce Telecom. 

A company called EastLink is eating into the company's Internet business in Port Elgin and Paisley. 

EastLink is also awaiting a Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission decision that would let it enter the local market for telephone service. 

Kincardine Cable, another competitor, is also seeking approval to compete in the local phone business. 

Another CRTC decision is expected to rule by next fall whether to let Bell Canada double the tariff paid by Bruce Telecom for use of Bell's wires in Owen Sound. 

So Dobson said the company has budgeted to spend $1.5 million "for reinvestment in infrastructure" this year. 

"That's the money that we will use to put more fibre (optic cable) to more homes, more band width to more homes so that we can expand our product offering and the quality of our products." 


and 

http://www.owensoundsuntimes.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2440436

 quote:Bruce Telecom could leave Owen Sound if a federal regulator lets Bell more than double what it charges the local company for the use of Bell's lines, said Eric Dobson, Bruce Telecom president and chief executive officer. 

Bell is arguing at the Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission that the wholesale price it charges Bruce Telecom is below Bell's own cost. 

The CRTC is expected to decide the issue next fall. 

Bruce Telecom pays Bell about $18 per customer per month to deliver telephone and Internet service to about 1,000 Owen Sound customers, Dobson said in an interview Monday. 

If rates to lease Bell's line double to $36 per month, Bell would be charging the company more than Bruce Telecom charges some customers, Dobson said. 

"So the economics of competing in Owen Sound would be thrown out the window and it wouldn't make sense for us to compete there anymore." 

Bruce Telecom's advisors expect the CRTC to permit Bell to increase the wholesale rates, Dobson said. The company has budgeted for an increase of 50% of the requested increase, retroactive to Jan. 1, 2010. 

--
Need-based health care not greed-based health care.]]></description>
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<pubDate>2010-02-09 08:14:16</pubDate>
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<title>how do i changw my nat 3 to nat 2? ISP ACANAC</title>
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<description><![CDATA[info
my isp is acanac and they gave me speedstream 4200.

my wireless is dynex
http://www.dynexproducts.com/p-735-dynex-wireless-n-router.aspx]]></description>
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<pubDate>2010-02-09 20:11:52</pubDate>
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<title>What I&#x27;d like the CRTC to say about NGN access</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23780291</link>
<description><![CDATA[What about this as a suggested CRTC ruling.......

ILEC's and TPIA operators are required to provide Independent ISP's (IISP) with access to their so-called 'next generation networks' (HGN) under the following conditions:

1) A tier of NGN service capable of sustaining the sum of [ 2 simultaneous HD IPTV 1080p (AND its mainstream successor resolutions) broadcasts plus 2 simultaneous Voip conversations (G.711 codec) plus a simultaneous downstream internet connection of 5Mbps ] + 5% overhead allowance is to be offered to the IISP under tariff at cost + 15%. This tariff requires a minimum 2Mbps upstream capacity.

2) A tier of NGN service of precisely 1/2 of the service speeds offered in 1) above at cost + 30%.

3) Any tiers of service providing speeds in excess of those listed above are to be offered to IISP's at cost + 50%.

4) All the tariffed items above are to be at all times and at all points within the ILEC/TPIA networks entirely free of DPI or throttling done by the ILEC/TPIA provider or agents acting on their behalf.
    The IISP may institute DPI/throttle in accordance with their own policies, excepting where they conflict with existing law. 
If an ILEC/TPIA provider ever purchases/merges with an IISP, if the IISP has not done DPI/throttle at any time in the preceding year prior to the purchase/merger, then the ILEC/TIA provider is enjoined from imposing DPI/throttle on the customers of the IISP ('grandfather' clause).

5) All the items tariffed above shall have a monthly cap placed on their download/upload capacity of thirty (30) times the aggregate throughput of all three services (HDtv, VoIP, and internet download running at full rated capacity for a period of eight (8) hours per day. To this figure shall be added the upload throughput for the same number of hours per day.

6) To remove any cap on throughput, the following schedule is used:
&#9;a) To double the cap in 5), the IISP shall pay the ILEC/TPIA provider an additional 25% of the tariffed rate for the service
&#9;    ie. if cost + 15% = $37.00, then the IISP will pay an additional $9.25 for the transit of unlimited capacity for that service instance.

7) No ILEC/TPIA provider shall have any dealings with, or impose any requirement on any IISP customer other than in connection with establishing the tariffed  service contracted through the IISP, or to provide technical support (truck roll) in the event the IISP reports problems with the service at their customer's location.
   No ILEC/TPIA provider shall knowingly impose any termination or degradation of service on any IISP customer without the express written consent of the IISP.

8) Bandwidth overages shall be charged to the IISP in aggregate on a monthly basis, and not at the individual service subscriber level.
   Overages shall be charged at [ insert a number that is fair in light of the proposed tariffed amounts above - call this RATE_A ] per GB.
   In other words, if the IISP's customers in aggregate generate 1TB in 'excess' traffic/month, then the IISP must pay to the ILEC/TPIA provider 1000 x RATE_A
   The IISP is free to devise their own pricing scheme to their customer(s) for dealing with overage charges.

9) IISP's must provide a mechanism to prevent external DDoS attacks or 'network' storms from reaching the ILEC/TPIA provider's aggregation network.

10) The tiers mentioned in 1) & 2) above are subject to mandatory review in 3 years, based on [ some metric to be determined ]. 
     In no case shall the speeds or bandwidth allowances  resulting from the review ever be reduced from their initial values, or reduced from any reset upwards.

11) ....whatever else you can think of......

I know that I'm making a huge assumption that in a NGN higher customer speeds really cost more to provide - feel free to think of the tariff percentages in 1), 2) and 3) with different values of markup over cost.

Basically in order for their to be meaningful competition in Canada, IISP's must be able to offer a viable triple-play package. To do this the connections they have access to must be able to sustain all three services simultaneously, hence the need for NGN access, and the description of speed in conjunction with the different triple play services.

As far as bandwidth is concerned, I've assumed that a household might use all three services 8 hours per day (maybe it's 6 hours) x 30 days per month at full rated capacity. In reality, most will be well under this usage, but it still allows for those days when you can't open the door due to the 8' snow drift blocking the way, and the 40C 100% humidex days in the summer when you also won't go outside and everyone in the family is either watching PPV in HD, surfing, gaming on-line, or talking on the VoIP phone, Skype video-ing, and everything in-between.

Also think of the bandwidth cap removal premium in 6) as some other 'fair' percentage.

This is what speed/bandwidth reality will look like for many households in a year or two. And that's about how long it's going to take to wind-up the new CRTC process.

A boy can dream, can't he?]]></description>
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<pubDate>2010-02-09 20:09:33</pubDate>
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<title>Can someone tell me how much MBPS my line can handle?</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23777857</link>
<description><![CDATA[Can someone tell me how much MBPS my line can handle?

I have DSL right now and this is the stats I got from the modem....

Uptime: 0 days, 13:15:30  
Modulation: G.992.1 annex A  
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 800 / 3.008  
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [KB/KB]: 0,00 / 0,00  
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,5 / 19,5  
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 27,5 / 45,0  
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 15,0 / 14,0  
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / GSPN  
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0  
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0  
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0  
Loss of Link (Remote): 0  
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 0  
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 492.064  
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 5  
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 5 

Can someone tell me what is the maximum MBPS I can get without any problems?]]></description>
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<pubDate>2010-02-09 12:37:08</pubDate>
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<title>Buzzer problem after installing dry loop</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23750828</link>
<description><![CDATA[Hi there,

I am not sure where to post my question but here it is.
After installing dry loop for high speed internet and VIOP my buzzer stopped working. Buzzer stopped buzzing. I called Acacnac to issue a ticket for a Bell technician to come and they did. The Bell technician refused to come after calling me (as per the ticket) and finding out about the problem. What should I do to rectify the problem?]]></description>
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<pubDate>2010-02-03 21:11:23</pubDate>
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<title>Acanac&#x27;s MLPPP does not support Tomato MLPPP?</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23779515</link>
<description><![CDATA[I stumbled upon this:
http://community.acanac.com/acanac/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=13330
"Further our LNS servers are not compatible with Tomato MLPPP"
Is it even possible? I thought MLPPP is a standard or set of standards and one needs to make an effort to make it incompatible with the standard. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>2010-02-09 17:31:53</pubDate>
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<title>BT opens its orifices - how about Bell</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23771341</link>
<description><![CDATA[
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLDE61700820100208?rpc=401&feedType=RSS&feedName=governmentFilingsNews

Save your own copy of this article off-line because Reuters will expire the article after about 30 days.]]></description>
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<pubDate>2010-02-08 09:29:38</pubDate>
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<title>My idea instead of ACTA</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23760754</link>
<description><![CDATA[Alright everyone, I know this is not for everyone. Some wont even like my idea.

I would like to present it before my peers before handing it to David Tilson. Maybe shed some light on something I might have missed or some better more concise wording or ideas. For Americans visiting this thread, I know you guys hate taxes more then anyone but read through. Also prices are in Canadian. ;)

Hopeful forum shift in the current ACTA Chaper 17 internet to this version:

To allow a forum shift of the ACTA negotiations to be more fair and potentially have a better outcome for the general public, artists and companies.

Section 1:

Introduction of taxes

- Internet tax small percent of one to four percent
- Blank media tax
&#9;-Flash drives $5
- hard drives (based on volume)
&#9;&#9;- 50 - 500 gigabytes $5
&#9;&#9;- 501 - 1000 gigabytes $10
&#9;&#9;- 1001 - 1500 gigabytes $15
&#9;&#9;- 1501 &#150; 2000 gigabytes $20
&#9;&#9;-Point: These prices could be raised based on in lnfliation.
&#9;&#9;-Point: new tech such as higher storage capacity. When the next storage tier of 2500
       &#9;&#9;             Gigabytes is available, it becomes the top tier of $20.

Section 2:

Artists/Companies  funds and receipts

-All taxes and levies get pooled into a global fund. That is accessible through proportional downloads of  
  their content.
-Access to these funds are through registration of content. All content through this program will be 
  accessed through government approved websites.

Section 3:

Systems content access

-Websites can be registered with the government to distribute content
-Websites that rely on advertising revenue must share in profits from their revenue to the global fund

Section 4:

Tracking content

-Content will be assigned a unique hash
-Download count will be based on: 1 download per year based on IP address (preferably MAC address) 
  per single hash file
-Content to be registered must be submitted to the global agency, than will be given a unique hash
  number

Section 5:

Content Classification

Class 0: 
&#9;-anything older than 80 years is public domain (negotiations required) 

Class 1:  
-Anything older than 50 years
&#9;-Photographs
&#9;-Out of print video games and programs

Class 2:
&#9;-Single track music
&#9;-Movies older than 15 years
&#9;-Single TV shows older than 15 years
&#9;-All programs older than 7 years
&#9;-Novels older than 25 years
-Children&#146;s books of 50 pages or less
&#9;-Music discographies older than 50 years

Class 3:
&#9;-Website Themes/Templates
-Full Music CD
&#9;-Novels 300 pages or less
&#9;-Video games (low content games &#150; needs more classification)
&#9;-Programs (low content programs &#150; needs more classification)
&#9;-Single TV production programs
&#9;-Movies that have been released
&#9;-Children&#146;s books greater the 50 pages

Class 4:
&#9;-Music discographies
&#9;-Novels greater than 300 pages
&#9;-Text books (school)
&#9;-Programs (mid content programs &#150; needs more classification)
&#9;-Video games (mid content games &#150; needs more classification)

Class 5:
&#9;-Basic level O/S
&#9;-Programs (advanced level content &#150;needs more classification)
&#9;-Video games (top tier video games-needs more classification)

Class 6:
&#9;-Mid range O/S
&#9;-Programs (Top tier programs-needs more classification)

Class 7:
&#9;-Top tier O/S

Class 8:
&#9;-Above top tier O/S (server O/S)
&#9;-Grouped programs (ex. Adobe master collection)

Classification Price scheme

&#9;Class 0: Free
&#9;Class 1:  $0.01 - $0.50
&#9;Class 2:  $0.51 - $6.00
&#9;Class 3:  $6.01 - $25.00
&#9;Class 4:  $25.01 - $45.00
&#9;Class 5:  $45.01 - $90.00
&#9;Class 6:  $90.01 - $150.00
&#9;Class 7:  $150.01 - $250.00
&#9;Class 8:  $250.01 &#150; XXXXXX
&#9;-Prices reflect current retail sales prices
&#9;-Prices can be adjusted based on inflation
&#9;- Registrars collect funds based on classification and proportional downloads (proportions 
  determined later)

Section 6:

Internet connection types

Unregistered Connections
&#9;-All taxes will apply
&#9;-no restriction on internet connection
&#9;-ISP&#146;s must sell unregistered Connections

Registered Connections
&#9;-Customers ISP will hand out a government sanctioned card
&#9;-None of the unregistered taxes will apply
&#9;-On purchasing blank media, registration card must be present then taxes will not be added to 
  blank media
&#9;-Registered net connections will be limited to approved non infringing websites
&#9;-ISP&#146;s are not required to sell registered connections

Section 7:

Business operations classification
&#9;-Businesses must purchase all media they need to operate their respected business.
&#9;-Businesses must pay a net tax of two percent only on business internet connections
&#9;-Business internet connection must have a registration card to be not taxed on black media 
  purchases
-Businesses have the right to view all web content for business operations
-Businesses do not have the right to download any content (they must obtain content through 
  classic methods

Section 8:

Registrants Responsibility
&#9;-class 0 to class 3 submissions can be done through web for $10 fee and reviewed
&#9;-class 4 to class 6 must be submitted by registered mail and a fee of $50 and reviewed
&#9;-class 7 and class 8 must be submitted by registered mail and a fee of $100 and reviewed
-All registrants have the responsibility to make sure their work is non-infringed

Section 9:

Classic Distribution
&#9;-Content creators have the right to not participate in the global distribution method
&#9;-Content creators that do not participate do not have access to the funds
&#9;-Content creators must protect their works in their classic copyright of their own respected 
  country

Section 10:

Public Websites

User generated content websites
&#9;-Infringed notice and takedown
&#9;-If infringed notice is not legitimate then penalties will apply
&#9;-If notice of infringement is not dealt with and is correct then penalties will apply
&#9;-Website owners must notify user of infringed media
&#9;-If user of infringed media continues in the dissemination of infringed material the users account 
  will be terminated and banned based on IP and mac address. Collection of users information 
  will be required.
-If user tries to circumvent this ban and continues illegal activities, notification to the authority&#146;s 
  must conclude
&#9;-Content creators can post their content on these sites but will not be refunded for their efforts
&#9;-Website owners can create a deal environment to pay content creators
&#9;-Websites not following these rules will be liable to the full extent of the law and shut down

Section 11:

Government Approved website distribution centers
&#9;-Content creators will be given a hash number of their file to hand to a content distributor
&#9;-Content creators can run their own government approved distribution website
&#9;-Distribution sites use the hash number and download from the distribution library
&#9;-Distribution centers will receive a government approved code for counting downloads
&#9;-Download of content will be counted 1 per year based on IP(preferably mac address)
&#9;-Every month automatic upload of counts will be done to the global library sites based on 
  government distributed code
-All government distributed code will be encrypted
-P2P websites will use a government tracker to tally download counts
-No website under this plan can generate an income for personal means
-If website owners wish to generate an income from these sites they must pay 80% of profits to 
  the global fund
-All sites generating an income must register their book keeping with the global fund
-Websites not following these rules will be liable to the full extent of the law and shut down
&#9;-All website owners can register their website to be on the approved list for registered users for 
  a fee of $15

Section 12:

Funds distribution
-Funds will be collected and or sent to the content creator based on the disproportion of the 
  downloads and the value of the fund
-If content creator is part(or in contract) of an organization, funds will be sent to the 
  organization. All transactions between the creator and the organization is based on mutual 
   contract

Section 13:

Legal
&#9;-Anyone circumventing these regulations will lose their right to unregistered Internet and will 
  immediately issued a registration card. After one year they can apply to remove the 
  registration card.
-Any registered user circumventing internet restrictions three times will be disconnected from  
  the internet for three months and must continue to pay their ISP for those three months they 
  have been disconnected for. If user continues his actions three times. He will lose his net 
  connection for 3 years and will not be required to pay for that disconnection.
-Any website that does not adhere to these regulations will be shut down. The owner of the 
  website will not be allowed to operate or own one for a years time.
-Any business that does not adhere to these rules will lose their presence on the web and only 
  have basic web communications. Fines will apply as well based on the breach of laws.

Section 14:

Legal recourse
&#9;-If any party is in question of penalties, they have the right to obtain a lawyer and a technician
&#9;-They my present their case in a court of law to obtain their rights back
&#9;-Their computer logs, isp logs and website logs may be presented as evidence.
&#9;-Only the information related to the infringement may be presented, anything else on the 
  infringers computer/devices will be stricken from the record.

Section 15:

Exemptions
&#9;-Business are exempt from the blank media tax
&#9;-Government and their agencies are exempt from the blank media tax and internet tax
&#9;-Hospitals are exempt from the blank media tax and the internet tax
&#9;-Schools are exempt from the blank media tax
&#9;-Charity organizations are exempt from the blank media tax ]]></description>
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<pubDate>2010-02-05 15:33:30</pubDate>
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<title>Question concerning POTS splitter</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23770186</link>
<description><![CDATA[Hey does anyone know if Bell charges to install a POTS splitter? if so how much?]]></description>
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<pubDate>2010-02-07 22:31:25</pubDate>
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