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@pa.frontiern
| 1mb by 128k ROcks in the STICKS! Well,
My experience with frontier was great. We called on Monday, I got my modem on Thursday. I couldn't believe service was available in Ggranville Summit PA ! (this is the BOONIES folks) The speedstream 5667 USB/enet is NICE - I use both ports simultaneuosly to feed two machines that are not networked. The whole shebang took about 10 minutes to install not including the extra phone line I ran for it (no , you don't need that). I average 100-140k downloading and 20-24k uploading. Absolutely no complaints for $39.95 a month!
Only complaints: The modem firmware is not accessible, I would have liked to reconfigure the router feature that is built in. BUT..... Who cares! just buy a cheapo Router/Hub (Staples - $80.00) - sell the old hub on ebay!
Best parts: DHCP makes it easy...no proprietary BS connection, no login / no anything. It's there and just on. Should work perfect under ANY OS. (I use Linux, Mac OS 9 and Windows) Customer service was very friendly, and NO BULLSHT rebate deals or wierdo plans. Just pay XXX for X months till the equipment is covered, then it drops down $5.00 (your results may vary)
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join:2002-01-09
Middletown, NY | Re: Any Word on >1mb Service outside Rochester? The speed is currently out there. Only the price is not right. Be happy to have the 1 meg already. We in the Citizens/Frontier area are still waiting to see it.
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join:2002-11-09
Prior Lake, MN
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Sam Rigel
join:2003-04-18
Middletown, NY
| Need help making server Visible to internet I have a 3Com 812 ADSL Router. This is what I started with. Now, in
addition I have a 3Com Wireless Cable/DSL Gateway. Connected to the
gateway are 3 wired computers and two wireless computers. One of the
wired computers is a Server running Win2K Server Pro. I want to make
this visible to the internet again.(This was visible until I connected
the gateway.) In the 812 I have the NAT TCP set to the IP address for
the server 192.168.1.230 issued by the gateway DHCP Server. In the
gateway I have the firewall configuration set so this server is the DMZ
Virtual Server and all unresolved requests will to routed to this unit.
I thought!!! Can you tell me where I seem to be going wrong? I have
checked and rechecked and have not been successful. If I put the server
back on the 812 and assign an IP address it is visible from the internet
but not from the LAN. On the gateway it is visible from the LAN and not
the internet. Is the problem that I can't have it both ways or is the
above configuration messed up. I'm confused. Any help will be greatly
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jsilveus
join:2003-04-20
Jerseyville, IL
| Not happy here, FrontierNet Well, I have been very unsatisfied with FrontierNet.
First problem: when I called, I asked if it was 1.5M X 128K, and they confirmed ("Yes"). Well, the hardware tops at 1M X 128K. Not that huge an issue, but this was a foreshadowing of what was to come...
Well, I've had their DSL installed for about a month and my speeds (download) range anywhere from 13K to 800K. It has been very unreliable. And I'm paying $50/mo for this. I've been unable to connect on multiple occasions, which is VERY annoying since I do computer work, and when I need to get online and get files for a service, I don't like to put it off until my ISP fixes whatever problem they seem to have so frequently. And then when they do get back online, I'm lucky to average 30K on the downloads.
Well, so I've been lied to and underprovided to. They took my money and term agreement, and expect little be given in return.
In comparison, I recently moved here (Jerseyville, IL) from High Ridge, MO. In Missouri I had SBC (now merged with Yahoo) for my DSL ISP. They were fantastic. 140K-220K downloads, 15-20K uploads. All for $35/mo at the end (started at $50/mo when it first became available, and did I jump on it). And their customer service was fantastic, with the few little issues I had, mostly inquiries about doing this or that. | |
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join:2003-04-20
Jerseyville, IL
| Re: Not happy here, FrontierNet Here is a communication to which they did not reply. Also, the benchmarks: I find it ODD that my sub 300 benchmarks do not show up on the public charts. WHY???
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Now you tell me that 384K is my subscribed speed? I did not sign up for 384K. 1024K would be acceptable, but when I asked if I would be getting one and a half megabits per second download speeds I was told "Yes". And you tell me that 384K is acceptable?! I have found the customer service your company provides to be completely inadequate. I called to cancel my service, as I have had speeds as low as 30K on your DSL service. I was told that the previous mentioning of being able to cancel if "not satisfied" without any worries was not on record and in fact could not have happened. So I was then told I would be charged $50 for a week of unreliable and majorly underpowered DSL since I was terminating my agreement for one year of service (which I would like to state again was TOLD TO BE 1.5Mbps, not 30-500K). So not only was I lied to, but then I was treated as the liar because of one of your own employees misleeding me into getting your services. And now you tell me to upgrade my service! Why on earth would I pay you more money when you can't even provide me the speeds I was told I would be getting at this "standard" level? If you would like to see some of my benchmarks, they're under zipcode 62052. There you can see my excellent dialup speeds via your DSL. No other applications or network connections where present during these tests. And these speeds happen fairly frequently, giving me the dialup experience in my web browsing.
I would not suggest anyone do business with your company. You have blatantly lied about the speeds you would provide me with, as well as lied about my ability to cancel if not satisfied. In my book, this makes your company fraudulent. Go back to school and take some business ethics classes.
Unsatisfied,
Jon Silveus
T*** * via RT writes:
Thank you for contacting technical support,
Currently your account reflects a Residential Class DSL (384K/128K) service. The speeds you report of 350 are well within the standard 80% service range.
If you wish to increase your speed or see when upgrades may be done to your account please call customer service at 1-800-921-8101 and they can assist you with this.
Thank you,
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Support Submission From FrontierNet Website
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State: IL
Topic: LL DSL
Category: Speed
Question: My speed is HORRIBLE. I was told up to 1.5mpbs, and I noticed in my modem configuration menus that is only goes up to 1 mbps for it's max download speed. But even that would be better than what I'm getting.
I can't even get it to 400Kbps, benching on your own benchmarks with my score around 350Kbps. This is horrible and not acceptable for $50/month.
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@ny.frontier
| I am a user in Rochester NY (greece). I am fairly dissapointed at times. I have the bussness class DSL and I find it hard to ever upload past 20 kb/s to the "run of the mill user". Downloading seems like it should be faster but it is alright better than most options. | |
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join:2002-04-29
Rhinebeck, NY
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yaplej
CCNA
Premium
join:2001-02-10
White City, OR | Re: DSL is here "The wait is over!" Signed up today 06/16/2003. They said someone will deliver the modem and have everything setup by 06/28/2003. They have got a ton of orders today so Ill post on how it goes. | |
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CCNA
Premium
join:2001-02-10
White City, OR | Hey setup on time 06/24/2003. Install was pretty easy. We had two phone lines so had to swap some stuff around. I have done a few speed tests and my 1000/128 connection is testing at 1881/271. Oh yeh! | |
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CCNA
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join:2001-02-10
White City, OR | Still have high speeds 1889/270. Really like it, but cant think of what to do with it just yet. | |
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join:2001-03-10
Farmington, MN
| ya.. i got the same service as u...
»/speedtests/64···57967056
i used the server that is literally right next to my town.
and i live about a block away from the CO
NO i do not have other computers networked
NO i had NOTHING downloading or uploading
YES i do have a newer computer | |
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karamazov12
join:2003-06-25
Intercourse, PA
| FrontierNet connection drops... just reboot Got the Frontiernet DSL installed. Very fast for our area (farm country) - but only when it works. After an hour or so the connection will drop. I called their support desk and was told that the IP lease will expire and the connection will drop... WHAT?! The woman on the phone didn't know that their lease is 18 hours - not 1 or 2. Why would they tell me the connection will drop - isn't DSL an always on connection??? Then she told me I need to reboot my PC when that happens. Just reboot - then all will be fine...
Doing a trace route when it works shows that our area goes up to Rodchester. Saw a few posts from others in that area who have the same problem... maybe it could be more than just having me reboot?!! | |
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@pa.frontiern | Re: FrontierNet connection drops... just reboot I had the same problem you should try to ask them for a different modem the, Speedstream Modem 5667 I haven't gotten a DC eversince, unless i trip over the wire myself.^_^ | |
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TagZrael
join:2002-10-26
Princeton, WV
| Re: FrontierNet connection drops... just reboot The Speedstream 5667. DONT GET IT!!! FRONTIERNET RIPS OFF ALL OF THE SETTINGS! I have one that says Revision 0.2 on the bottom... and they ripped all of the original settings out of it. I can't do anything with it. It has a hardware firewall, and no firewall or port forwarding settings whatsoever. This is really annoying. I can't host internet games, or directly send a file to someone. Damn you Frontiernet. | |
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Sarick
It's Only Logical
Premium
join:2003-06-03
USA | Go to the efficient Fourm.
I've posted this on there. | |
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wavve31
join:2003-07-15
San Jose, CA
| Yahoo Messenger not working with Frontiernet Hi,
I have Frontiernet.net DSL Service and none of my chat programs work. I've checked to make sure that the Windows XP firewall software is not running. I've disabled my Nortons Firewall and still not working. My Dsl service runs great though I just can't you yahoo messenger or any other chat program.
Any ideas? I'm in Rio Vista CA
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It's Only Logical
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join:2003-06-03
USA | Re: Yahoo Messenger not working with Frontiernet Are you running their new Efficient 5200 firmware?
I've had problems with it locking up the 5200.. | |
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bawalker
join:2001-10-08
Wardensville, WV
| Frontier DSL is worse than dialup! I consider myself a very understanding and very patient person. I'm also someone who is a network engineer by trade so I am very familiar with the workings of a network, internet service and so forth. But the past 6 months of dealing with Frontier's service have literally pushed me over the edge.
At first in Oct 2001 everything started out fine. DSL was flying, I was able to get around 100k/sec which eventually seemed to get capped around 50k/sec. No biggie, speed tests continued to show me anywhere from 400-600 on a regular basis. Things seemed to get a tiny bit slower which I took appearantly as more customers signing on for DSL.
Then come January 2003. Speeds went from 50k down to 20k. Then from 20k down to 10k/sec. Of course this happened between january and march, but since March speeds have NOT increase. It was during the March time period that all customers were promised a 1MB upgrade so I had hoped to at least see 800+ on the speedtests, but unfortunately speeds actually slowed. As of right now my speed tests rarely get higher than 150/150.
Anyway since March I have been dealing with several high up people at frontier including an engineer and a lady who I have dealt with before and have nothing but positive words for her. Unfortunately due to whatever reason help has NOT been quick at coming. In August I discovered that our small rural area had been fed by a single T1 line to supply service for upto 60 DSL USERS! Talk about over provisioning. Frontier fixed that with a DS3 loop and afterwards I was able to get some rare speeds upto 40k/sec, but 15k/sec is the average.
What is worse that has been since the last week of August I have experienced such instable and unreliable connections, that I have given up DSL and am typing this on dialup! Disconnections are happening roughtly 10-15 times per hour with it taking upto 5 minutes to reconnect. While I have typed this on dialup, DSL has disconnected twice, twice interupting software I'm downloading to update a customers computer (I run a PC repair service).
I am to the point where I am ready to loose my cool and just blow up. I have lost literally a weeks worth of work due to this and when I have called frontier asking for help or a discount of price till it's fixed... I'm told "Sorry we don't guarantee speeds." I've had the DSL modem replaced, the NID box on the side of the house has been replaced, and the lines on the pole near our house have been checked out. I really don't know what to do.
I can't continue to pay $50 for service I'm not getting or is not getting fixed. I can't continue to flush money down the toliet like this when I'm also loosing out on work because I'm unable to do PC repair work or webpage design as well.
Does anyone have any ideas... any help?! | |
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join:2003-09-30
Rochester, NY
| Re: Frontier DSL is worse than dialup! I dont think there is much you can do.
Up here in Rochester NY its a horrible ISP as well. Not quite as bad as Dialup. But it gets so overloaded that at times the most I can download is about 20 k/s. Ping times are also just horrible. (they offer 3 mbps service in Roch)
Frontier just sucks... I have given up on them. | |
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markdsl
join:2003-07-11
Brownstown, PA
| Frontier is blocking all ICMP ECHOs (pings)
Unfortunately the AT&T VPN client fails to connect because of this.
They say they have to upgrade their routers but it has been weeks and no fix. I am going to ask for at least a one month refund. | |
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Sarick
It's Only Logical
Premium
join:2003-06-03
USA | Re: Frontier is blocking all ICMP ECHOs (pings) Could it be because your Speedstream is set not to Pong Pings?
Check the effecient form.
5200's don't respond to pings by default you literaly need to bypass the Ping drop rule on them. | |
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coolfire167
join:2001-03-10
Farmington, MN
| 100% packet drop Over the past weekend i have had some... well.. we will just say difficulties with frontier DSL. at first it started with just slow downs.. and then that turned into MAJOR slow downs, and slowly those turned into 100% packet loss. I have asked a few friends with frontier, they are experiencing the same problems. Today they showed up with a new modem, telling me that this will fix my problems. No such luck. I am still experiencing up to 70% packet loss.. and being the online gamer that I am, i cannot afford to loose 70% of my packets! I am also experiencing upload speeds at less than 40 kbps. It has never been this slow. Any suggestions? I have formatted, called them 3 times, and received a new modem, not much has changed. | |
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join:2002-01-09
Middletown, NY | Re: 100% packet drop Have you tried running a trace route to see where the traffic is getting jammed?
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join:2001-03-10
Farmington, MN
| Re: 100% packet drop yes i have.. i have a link to it.. its on my deviantart account tho... my trace rout
its 3600 all across the board.. even to the CO... this sux... that was just after a format.. had time to install aim.. and then did the trace rout.. | |
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THEM1060
@ca.frontiern | Frontiernet Randomly Dropping packets in CALI? Frontier is consistently dropping packets in Northern California. Has anyone else been experiencing this?
Frontier has been unable to help at all. | |
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Wolverine2
It Wasn't Me
Premium
join:2001-01-30
Wilton, CA
clubs:
| Re: Frontiernet Randomly Dropping packets in CALI? Yes I have the same problems. I am getting between 5% and 15% packet loss consistantly. Frontiers answer to this is to try and pretend its a line problem until you talk to repair then they claim its a NOC problem and round and round she goes. Dont expect any real support, they know about the problem and they dont appear to have any inclination to fix it. I have a month of testing and line monitioring that I have sent them and they have done nothing with it. They suck period. | |
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join:2002-08-21
Hopewell Junction, NY
clubs: | same thing here in new york, which is why i droped them. | |
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| tdkyo
join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY
| Re: Note on Frontier Rating I have to agree on that one. I actually live in the city where Frontier has their headquarters and the service of 3000/382 is outstanding. But after listening to all the west coaster's complaints, I have to agree that Frontier should look into developing their network, instead of expanding.:-/ | |
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Racerbob
join:2001-06-24
Webster, NY
 ·FrontierNet Intern..
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Note on Frontier Rating Well the Rochester service of 3000/384 is not outstanding, but it is pretty good. But now Roadrunner is blowing away speeds on the Rochester DSL Max, so that is exactly why I am back to RR. Testing at 400kbps faster on downloads and 35 kbps faster on uploads. | |
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join:2003-09-30
Rochester, NY | Re: Note on Frontier Rating I dont think its outstanding. I live about 20 minutes west of Rochester and I couldn't be more dissapointed with the DSL. Unless I like using the internet at 3 am, its just a horrible service. | |
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@nv.fronti
| I live on the West Coast, in the middle of nowhere and my DSL rocks. I get 2.5/512 reliably for the price of 1.5/512. The funny thing is in the town a mere 20 miles over most of the subscribers I have talked to are lucky to get 1 mbps download and it is a larger town, 40K+. I have always been happy with their service.
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CcHhRrIiSs
@az.fronti
| SOCOM online I have a playstation 2 with a network adapter for online play. I play SOCOM Navy Seals and am problems with my headset. I can talk and I'm heard by other players, however I cannot hear them at all. I have tried port forwarding as well as enabling the DMZ directly to the IP my PS2 is on. Still nothing. I've also disabled the firewall, the modem firewall, and the windows XP firewall. STILL nothing. I even play with my computer off, and get the same results. I've contacted everyone from Frontiernet, Mcafee, Sony and have come up with nothing. This is really frustrating as I've searched all over the net for help and everything I've tried does not work. The ports I "need forwarded" to hear voices are UDP 6000-6999 and TCP 10070-10080. This is my last resort. Please help.
Is there anything such as a firewall beyond the modem? Could it be the wiring in the box outside? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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Sarick
It's Only Logical
Premium
join:2003-06-03
USA
·FrontierNet Intern..
| Re: SOCOM online It's your Router. You Can't play ATV offroad Fury don't even try it..
I've got socom to work.
If you want FULL gamesupport your going to need a NEW router.
ZyXel 652r is the best hardware I've read about. The 645r will work with frontiers PPPoA I'm using it now. Complain to them that theitr rouiter SUCKs.. There is also a 3com modem that will work with alot of LINKSYS routers and DEAL with the PPPoA to Eathernet conversion, but those have been discontinued.
The SS 5200 has ICMP packet problems where it's automaticly set to DUMP Pings, for most internet that is useful for other services like GAMEs it's problematic.
By default (any firewal) the SS 5200 stealths all ports not set to your computer..
Also Note Frontier is on PPPoA most places and LynkSys routers as well as tuns nearly everything out thare doen't work with PPPoA. The Frontier modems/routers can't be set to bridgemode because of this. So your stuff with ....
1. buying a NEW 645r or 652, or Sticking with the 5200 and DEALING with it..
You could complain to LinkSys and ask them to support PPPoA, if you could get them to support a firmware that works with PPPoA "DIRECTLY" then you might have the ability to host well..
The 645r (not the best) is $165-$220, the 652 is $250-$300
My suggestion is to complain like I did that they charge twice as much as other DSL providers and have half as much COMPATIBILITY.
552r has more options and included LOOPBACK, so you can connect to your WAN IP. | |
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Sarick
It's Only Logical
Premium
join:2003-06-03
USA
·FrontierNet Intern..
| Frontiers NEW main Page. Anyone notice they have added ACTIVEX to there main page. Every time I load it I get a warning that my activeX is off.
I turned the Plugins off for Security, as anyone with knowlwedge of the recent ADD attacks on popuuler WEB host hacve inadvertently become TROJAN Horse sponsers.
I would recomend everyone turn off ActiveX
»www.secunia.com/advisories/9711/
I would like everyone to PLEASE request that everyone send a comment to frontiers WEB designers that the activeX isn't needed and to please remove it. | |
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join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY | Re: Frontiers NEW main Page. You could just put Frontier's page as "trusted" and allow Active X enabled on the trusted sites. | |
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Sarick
It's Only Logical
Premium
join:2003-06-03
USA
·FrontierNet Intern..
| Re: Frontiers NEW main Page. said by tdkyo  :
You could just put Frontier's page as "trusted" and allow Active X enabled on the trusted sites.
Why, the only thing the active-x does is make the logo glimmer. It's not critical that the logo shines like it's moving. a Simple GIF logo would suffice.
The embeded activeX flash in is a poor design.
»home.frontiernet.net/images/fron···o_bg.jpg
src="/images/logo_dsl.swf" NAME="logo_dsl" ALIGN="
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tdkyo
join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY | The New E-mail system Does anybody like the new webmail system? (If you use them) I personally don't like horde as the e-mail client because the interface isn't that efficient compared to the older e-mail system that frontier had. | |
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matvell
join:2003-09-30
Rochester, NY
| Frontier sucks.... This is by far the worst broadband service I have ever used to play games on. Its horrid. The best ping I've EVER see to ANY server is about 70 ms, which is a terrible compared to Road Runner or any other decent ISP. During peak hours, the best I'll see is about 150 ms to any server. Absolutely terrible. When I check my trace routes, I see my ping to the first hop is well over 100 ms, which is TERRIBLE!. I shouldn't be over 20 ms to the first hop. They keep blaming me for the problem. Testing my lines, giving me new modems. But its their network, its trash. I ask all my friends who have this garbage service to run trace routes and they all report the same trashy pings that I receive...................
I HATE FRONTIER!!! Its hard to believe they'd do this crap with such a high quality service like Road Runner in the same area.
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Sarick
It's Only Logical
Premium
join:2003-06-03
USA
·FrontierNet Intern..
| Re: Frontier sucks.... I wrote them a couple of times.
My min ping is the same as yours, still faster than dailup. In my area it's the only ISP and, I don't get the 3000/386 setup. I'm lucky to get 1000/128.
$49 a month.
For a T1 split into 30+ users.
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join:2003-09-30
Rochester, NY | I just can't believe they'd offer such a bad service considering the cable modem service out here offers such a tremendous service.... There is absolutely no reason to use DSL instead of cable in Rochester. | |
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Sarick
It's Only Logical
Premium
join:2003-06-03
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join:2003-09-30
Rochester, NY
| Yes, I guess you are right. I think I have given frontier every opportunity to provide me a nice stable connection. The main reason I havent' switched to RR is because it will be a hassle to get a cable line in here since a tree accident cut the last one | |
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Hunter100
join:2003-11-07
Cookeville, TN
| Anyone else with this problem? Ive had FrontierNet dsl for 2 1/2 years without a problem. As an avid FPS gamer I live an die by a decent ping time. over the last 3 months my ping has begun to rapidly fluctuate between 50 to over 500 within the span of 1 sec, constatnly bouncing back and forth. More recently Ive begun having problem connecting to internet sights and game severs some taking up to 5mins to log onto. According to several secondary reporting sites Im getting my advertised connnection speed. Everytime I contact tech support I get the same answer. "we are not responsible for you ping problems and if the speed reporting sites say you getting the right speed, nothing wrong" | |
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join:2003-09-30
Rochester, NY | Re: Anyone else with this problem? I have had frontier DSL in rochester ny for over a year.... and my ping has begun to fluctuate like mad as well. Mainly between the hours of 4-11 pm, so I think its because of server overloads. | |
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join:2004-01-03
Middletown, NY
| Re: Anyone else with this problem? My ping is also doing the same thing, I play on very fast Steam NS servers and my ping jumps from 18ms to 300ms very quickly. The game is unplayable at times and often websites refresh after a couple clicks instead of just one.
Ping in the cmd prompt says I'm only getting 2% packet loss however which people say isn't that bad.
Glad to know it's not only me though. | |
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mastershake4
join:2003-11-26
Carlin, NV |  Frontiernet and Web Servers?
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Sarick
It's Only Logical
Premium
join:2003-06-03
USA |  Re: Frontiernet and Web Servers?
AS long as it doen't interfear with the network or break any nof the TOS. | |
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join:2003-11-26
Carlin, NV |  Re: Frontiernet and Web Servers?
mastershake | |
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join:2000-03-06
Rochester, NY | Re: Frontiernet and Web Servers? Frontier blocks port 80 and 25 on residential ADSL (5200). | |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs: | Re: Frontiernet and Web Servers? Is it true they will unblock port 80 if you request it?
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join:2003-11-26
Carlin, NV
| You know, I finally got my web server up today and it is running on port 80 just fine so I am not sure if they really block it or not. I am sure if you bug them enough they will do just about anything you want, or so it seems to me.
I love how every time I call them and tell them I am getting 2.5 mbits download they tell me I am crazy and it is impossible yet its always there.
I was very impressed today by their service in getting my my new firmware, the guy even asked if I needed help setting it up, best experience I have had with them to date. | |
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mastershake4
join:2003-11-26
Carlin, NV
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