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join:2001-11-14
Lafayette, CO | New service in Erie Apprently it's been activated. I have a scheduled install for 1/31. However, the service has changed. You only get 1/500 now for the more expensive, but your monthly limit has been upped from 6GB to 10GB. The install is also 250 now instead of 199. | |
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join:2001-11-14
Lafayette, CO | Re: New service in Erie Forgot to mention. They also discussed a little network stuff with me. The new equipment they have dramatically reduces packet loss, at the expense of a small increase in ping times. We'll see how it performs. | |
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Kilo Zero F C C
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join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
|  Howdy!
Just wanted to post something here in hopes we can get a Mesa Networks Thread started.
I just got service from then and am very happy so far. I got the residential plus package: 1m down, 500k up. I'm getting about 33ms of latency but it's better than the Qwest/MSN service I just gave up.
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join:2001-07-11
Boulder, CO | Re: Howdy! I'd agree; I had Qwest DSL pro 1mbps/1mbps in Lafayette and it doesn't touch the 1.5mbps service in terms of speed latency and customer service from Mesa.  | |
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join:2003-03-28
Berthoud, CO | Access from Berthoud - Country | |
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| question about the monthly caps Hey, we (two computer geeks) are thinking about getting the mesa residential "plus" package, but I've never measured our usage before ...
We have several machines and occasionally download CD images and such. We certainly surf the web a lot, and there's a lot of gaming going on, too (stuff like EQ, planetside, counterstrike ...)
Could any hard-core computer users speak to the adequacy of 10GB/month? Is it enough? | |
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Kilo Zero F C C
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join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
| Response to Limits Since I can't respond back to another older post, I'll post info here. The 10GB data limit is more a formality than a ridig guideline. I run servers, etc, and I use several GB (8 or so). So, it all depends. And... overage is very cheap!
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Kilo Zero F C C
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join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO | More People Needed! If we can get additional folks to post here, we can promote this forum up to a more visible area. I think I'll email Keith about it.
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join:2000-12-18
Littleton, CO | Re: More People Needed! My bro-in-law has them and they love them. Little antenna pointing at a barn or something. Good to see another wisp out here in Colo. | |
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Kilo Zero F C C
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Longmont, CO | Re: More People Needed! Yeah, they are really a swell group. Great service too.
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Kilo Zero F C C
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join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO | Mesa Network ISP Reviews Mesa Network ISP Reviews can be found here.
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Kilo Zero F C C
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
| Running VOIP Does anyone have any VOIP products running on their connections?
I have Vonage as well as FWD.
We also have a good VOIP Forum here at DSLR.
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Kilo Zero F C C
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO | Re: Running VOIP Known to work on Mesa:
Cisco ATA 186
Motorola VT1005
Budgetone
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Kilo Zero F C C
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
| Mesa to increase residential speeds in 2004 Mesa is preparing to do something very cool in 2004.
They are currently testing out a speed increase to residential customers. I know that it will affect the residential plus account. The speed should go from 1M down / 500K up to 1.5M down and 500K up. At this time it appears to be a free speed bump but official details haven't been released.
Look for more information from Mesa in January.
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Kilo Zero F C C
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
| Re: Mesa to increase residential speeds in 2004 Here is the official notice:
Dear Mesa Networks Customer,
Over the past couple months, we have been busy making improvements to our service offerings to provide a better value to our customers.
First, we recently upgraded the download speed of our residential service plans. These changes are currently in place.
The $58 per month service is now up to 1,500 Kbps download by 500 Kbps upload.* Previously, it was up to 1,000 Kbps down and 500 Kbps up.
The $44 per month serivce is now up to 1,000 Kbps download by 250 Kbps upload.* Previously, it was up to 500 Kbps down and 250 Kbps up.
Second, we are in the process of migrating to a new e-mail/web server. The new server will add new features such as spam filtering, a much better webmail application, and will be easier to use. As a result of this migration, we will also be slightly modifying our email and web site packages for the better. This migration will be completed in the next few weeks. Stay tuned for more details coming soon.
The Staff at Mesa Networks
*Actual speeds may vary and are not guaranteed. Many factors affect download speed, including the remote server, other traffic, your PC, and your router.
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join:2003-12-01
Loveland, CO | Re: Mesa to increase residential speeds in 2004 Any further word on this? | |
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Kilo Zero F C C
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join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO | Re: Mesa to increase residential speeds in 2004 Speed bump: done
Mail: Not sure, I don't use their mail servers. I believe it was supposed to be completed the first part of Feburary (i.e. any day now)
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| usn_squid
join:2004-03-13
Longmont, CO | Yep, speed increase has taken affect. I'm now at 850-950 down and just over 250 up. When is the last time you got a free upgrade from a service provider? | |
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Kilo Zero F C C
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join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO | Yep, I was bumped early to 1.5 down and 500 up. Loving it.
I see comcast has bumped from 1.5 down to 3m down now.
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Kilo Zero F C C
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
4 edits |  Routers that work with Mesa
/28 + /29 Capable + NAT/DHCP
•All Linksys Routers
NAT/DHCP Only
•All D-Link routers
•Motoral VT1005 ATA + Router
Incompatable by themselves / Require router above to work
•Cisco ATA186 - Requires NAT+DHCP Router
•Switches and Hubs
Rumored to work but untested
• Buffalo routers - supposedly /28, /29 compatable
• Netgear - NAT/DHCP
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Kilo Zero F C C
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO | Re: Routers that work with Mesa I just tested some Negears. They work with NAT/DHCP only.
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join:2004-01-17
Lafayette, CO
| I run a corporate network in Longmont, and have several users on Mesa (myself included). We all use Cisco PIX 501 firewalls with 3DES VPNs. The Canopy antennas that Mesa installs appear to be hard configured to 10 Mbps full duplex. My last wireless ISP with Canopy didn't lock it down, and I had several problems with Ethernet autonegotiation. | |
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Kilo Zero F C C
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join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
| Re: Routers that work with Mesa [QUOTE= blmoore4  The Canopy antennas that Mesa installs appear to be hard configured to 10 Mbps full duplex. My last wireless ISP with Canopy didn't lock it down, and I had several problems with Ethernet autonegotiation.
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I believe that's true as well. I'm on the 2.4 residential network and I'm not sure if the 5.0 business service is locked down as well.
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Kilo Zero F C C
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
| AT&T Net Client/Dialer/MTS Ports
•TCP 21
•TCP 50
•TCP 80
•TCP 389
•UDP 500
•TCP 709
•TCP 5080
Typically (almost 99% of the time), the problem lies with UDP port 500. If you get stuck in "negotiating keys" then this is the problem. There is a program which will allow you to change UDP ports. I'll try to post it here when I get to my work computer.
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Kilo Zero F C C
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join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
| Re: AT&T Net Client/Dialer/MTS Ports Windows program to change your udp port to work with some NAT/DHCP routers.
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Kilo Zero F C C
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join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
| More Clarification IP Protocol 50 - For IPSec Tunnel
UDP Port 500 - For IPSec Session Key Negotiations
TCP Port 389 - For Digital Certificate Revocation List Check
TCP Port 709 - For Digital Certificate Processing
TCP Port 5080 (for v5 clients) - Retrieve Tunnel Server List
TCP Port 21 - For software updates (Desirable, but non-critical) (Used for FTP)
TCP Port 80 - For active end user experience tracking (Desirable, but non-critical) (Used for HTTP)
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snowscum
join:2000-10-10
Broomfield, CO | Loveland tower ? So I have friend that lives about 4 blocks south of HP.
Do you think he can get the service?
Latency is a issue as well. Can you guys post
some trace routes to like yahoo.com?
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Kilo Zero F C C
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
| Re: Loveland tower ?
yahoo.com |
As for the route, here's tonights. The level 3 connection seems to be having some issues tonight. It's normally much lower.
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join:2000-10-10
Broomfield, CO | Re: Loveland tower ? Yuk! Alot of hops.Lol....Thanks for the info. My sis has the service out east of longmont. Pretty stable. | |
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Kilo Zero F C C
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO | Re: Loveland tower ? I've been quite happy with mine. I'm quite suprised that Yipes has been an issue lately. They've been quite reliable for me in the past.
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join:2004-01-19
Longmont, CO
| Tower For Northwest Longmont Wondering if Mesa is broadcasting from the "new" tower just west of the KLMO broadcast tower. That location appears to be about center of the coverage footprint map for northwest Longmont. I plan on subscribing to Mesa in the near future, and the location I'm talking about is a stone's throw from me. It would make for a great signal. | |
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Kilo Zero F C C
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO | Re: Tower For Northwest Longmont Yes. They had mentioned to me that they have a tower at 17th and Hover and you know...there IS that big tower there.
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join:2004-01-19
Longmont, CO | Ok Joey, thanks. I guess something good may come out of that tower afterall..other than paging and cellphone intermod on my ham gear.
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Kilo Zero F C C
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
| Re: Tower For Northwest Longmont Ack! Mark Sheets.. I was just thinking about him today.
Intermod is ugly but I haven't had any issues with that tower.
On the other hand, You live right behind it so, you have a better view.
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jsandvick
join:2003-12-01
Loveland, CO | Greeley coverage Has anyone heard of any plans for Mesa to start covering Greeley or Severance? I have friends in those areas who are curious.
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Kilo Zero F C C
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join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
| Re: Greeley coverage Nothing announced yet, however, if those folks email Mesa....and there is enough interest, they have been known to put up towers in those locations. That's how Loveland went up, for example.
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@66.45.x.x
| I've been a dialup hero far too long. So, I'm tempted to go with Mesa. I live in Loveland, around their 43rd and Taft service area. I ain't gonna lie to y'all -- I intend to use the service primarily for online gaming, and secondarily for your basic web browsing and file sharing. Is the latency going to kill me (in the figurative sense as well as in various games)? | |
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Kilo Zero F C C
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join:2000-09-05
Longmont, CO
| Re: I've been a dialup hero far too long. You'll probably be looking between 40ms and 70ms on average. Even if you go with LP Broadband (a Mesa Competitor in Loveland) you'll still have higher than 20ms. I play UT2004 and as long as you can keep to about 120 or less on the server you'll be fine.
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join:2004-03-23
Broomfield, CO
| hello from Broomfield Hello all, I'm a new Mesa Networks user via VillNet.com (builder Village Homes). I'm pretty happy with the performance now, but the antennae had to be installed a second time (moved to the other side of the house) due to occasional (but very annoying) connection drop-outs. On the plus side it didn't take long for them to diagnose the original problem and offer to come out to fix it.
Interesting that residential basic is 1000k down now. I thought I was getting 500k down but after the second install, I noticed speeds upward of 900k. I guess I should start expecting that to continue, eh?
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join:2004-03-23
Broomfield, CO
| Re: hello from Broomfield Hm, I guess I should get my terms straight. Looking at the Mesa Networks web site, "basic" is 500k down, "standard" is 1000k down, "plus" is 1500k down. I don't exactly know where I am on that spectrum since the VillNet pricing page is either different or out of date.
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join:2004-02-26
Loveland, CO
| Is Mesa really worth it? I have a bunch of friends with Comcast's cable and they never have reliability issues. Comcast kills Mesa on downloads, consistant 315k/s is what my neighbor usually gets as opposed to my 175k/s with the 1500/500 package.
Is it really worth the $58? I'm very close to pulling the plug and going for the faster, cheaper internet...
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| Mesa in S Fort Collins I've had service in Fort Collins (Fossil Court East - just west of College and a block or so south of Harmony) for a couple months now. I've got the 1000/250 service - which includes a static IP for just $44/month.
I haven't had any problems. When the installer came, he noted the house was in a bit of a valley and wasn't 100% sure we could get service - plus we were the furthest away from the main antenna that he'd installed, although he did say he was new at the job.
Anyway, with an extra $50 install charge, we got a dish (just like a sat TV dish) instead of the regular antenna and he got us setup just fine. Speed tests indicate we're getting the full published bandwidth.
I intend to upgrade to the 1500/500 service soon, and get a /29 subnet (5 public IPs) because I have my own web/email server that's currently co-located in a previous employer's server room! I need to move that to my house, and the Mesa service definitely seems up to the task.
All in all, this is a very good service. Yes, the bandwidth for the price is a little less than Comcast (and possibly DSL?) but Mesa has a clue, and services like static IP and /29 subnets definitely make up for it.
BTW, the FAQ says the bandwidth limits are fairly flexible - they won't just charge you a ton of cash when you go over if you're pretty close. Their tech support say this too. I'm pretty sure I went a little over last month, since I downloaded a .tar file of the whole disk on my server (about 5G usage) plus a 4-CD set of Fedora Core Linux, plus regular Internet usage, plus some other smaller incremental backups and testing. I didn't hear anything from Mesa about this. | |
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join:2005-12-18
Erie, CO
| Problems with Tech Support at Mesanetworks This doesn't have anything to do with connectivity issues, which are usually way above average. It's a tech support issue. I have an email account with several addresses at mesanetworks, and they use some kind of spam filter at their data center that grinds my emails to a halt every couple months or so. My email slows to a trickle, and in the process I usually miss dozens of important emails from customers, clients, family, and friends. These are all confirmed missing emails, as I will get phonecalls from irritated people demanding to know why I haven't answered their emails. I can't use their webmail, because it doesn't even make it that far. This time I have recruited several friends around the world test my email by sending me a certain # per day. Most never arrive. This time around I have spent literally 3 WEEKS writing Mesanetworks every single day about my email problem, and they still have done absolutely nothing about it except an occasional email saying something like "we have a ticket into the data center, we'll update you when we hear from them". How is it an email problem can take nearly a month to fix? They know it's their spam filter. I'm not a tech, but I can't understand why they can't they do something in a day or two, max. Fed up, I finally signed up for an email account elsewhere and access my mail via the web. Unfortunately, most of my business-related stuff has my mesanetworks address printed on it. The tech support is way below sub-par at Mesanetworks, in my opinion. | |
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