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EddieJ300

join:2003-03-30
Sylvania, OH

Buckeye-Express "How are your speeds"?

My web browsing speeds are ok. It's my file download speeds that are poor. Tech support claims that it is the server that I'm downloading from but it happens from all servers.

Here's my Speed Test »/speedtests/90···50629739
They look good ???
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EddieJ300

join:2003-03-30
Sylvania, OH

Buckeye Speed Test

Buckeye Speed Test »performance.buckeye-express.com/
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the1phoneguy

join:2003-04-26
Sylvania, OH

Re: Buckeye Speed Test

They told me that their contract with the service was expired and that they were in the process of renewing the agreement !

Optimized
Premium,MVM,Ex-Mod 2004-13
join:2001-05-03
Ringwood, NJ

Buckeye Speed Test Down

said by the1phoneguy:
They told me that their contract with the service was expired and that they were in the process of renewing the agreement !
I have been stopping in here to check on the topics here. When Eddie first posted the link to the speed test it was operational because I tested it.

Hopefully they will get it back up quickly for you.
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EddieJ300

join:2003-03-30
Sylvania, OH
Yeah, they probable don't want us testing the speeds because of all the speed issues that we have been calling in with.
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Optimized
Premium,MVM,Ex-Mod 2004-13
join:2001-05-03
Ringwood, NJ
Does the Cleveland Speakeasy test work well for you?

»cle.speakeasy.net/

EddieJ300

join:2003-03-30
Sylvania, OH

Yes that speed test site works.

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Optimized
Premium,MVM,Ex-Mod 2004-13
join:2001-05-03
Ringwood, NJ

Re: Buckeye Speed Test

Cool ... I figured that might be close enough to your service area!

I live in NJ and use the nyc.speakeasy.net test which works great.
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joshso

@buckeye-express.com

1 recommendation

buckeye is horrible

I am constantly having problems staying connected. Twice the cable guy had to come out and both times my cable modem mysteriously started working. I call them and they run me through all of their test where I unplug the modem and then plug it back in. Anyone else have these problems?
L_P

join:2002-12-27
Toledo, OH

Re: buckeye is horrible

Are you in an aprtment?
what model Of modem do they have you on?
have they ever replaced the modem?
-L_P
L_P

join:2002-12-27
Toledo, OH

Buckc upgrade the business plan, but what about us

Well not all of you know,
but The business package for buckeye cable has gotten a upgrade yesterday.
The new package for the business is no longer the 1Mb down and the 128Kb up.
now business's get 1.5Mb down and 256Kb up.
I had the chance to see this in action. and dang.
I like the 1Mb down, but that up is what I really want.
I wront to buckeye asking if they plan on upgrading all their service or is this the way its gonna be?
if so I wont be happy, I will either be force to upgrade to the business or I will just find a better provider that has better up speed. the 128Kb was fine until recently now that I have been using the up stream a lot more.
anyway. I dont think everyone knows about it. so I figured I would bring it to the light.
maybe if enough residentual users complain about it that they will give us better up.
-L_P
minc2

join:2003-11-16

buckeye experss inproved i hope

as of 11-15-03 i noticed great speed of over 2060kbps on the speed test. witch is a big + considiring i only used to have 900kbps on a speed test the up stream is also improved but not as much but over all its better

EddieJ300

join:2003-03-30
Sylvania, OH

Re: buckeye experss inproved i hope

My speeds a improved as well...
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krogers11

join:2001-02-27
Perrysburg, OH
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CB2256

@rr.com

Buckeye cable

I have a Road Runner cable modem now,In Perrysburg Twp, But Buckeye is coming in Ware I live, for Thier modems, They have two levels of service 2.0 download for 50.00 dollars, {10.00 more dollars for having Direct/tv}and 3.5 download for 70.00 dollars, {10.00 more dollars for having Direct/tv} I have with RR a 3.0 download for 50.00 dollars, with Direct/tv what gives with buckeye 30.00 more dollars for 1/2 meg download
Hope20

join:2005-06-27
00000

problems wiht buckeye cable?

Hello,Im new to buckeye ISP etc. used to have RR. anyone have problems with their customer service or etc with them?
I have .:( Hope

Unhappy2

@buckeyecom.net

Buckeye resorts to even MORE throttleing

Past two days or so my upload speeds on Azureus have dropped by a factor of 10-20....no matter how many seeders/leechers or what time of day. Just plugged the same laptop with the same torrents into my neighbors SBC/DSL and the torrent upload speed shot right up.

Obviously not my torrents, PC, or client. It is not my modem, router, nic, or cable as ftp and speed tests (on cable) show upload 10-20 times higher than torrent upload speed.

PLEASE can we get some cable competition in this one horse town.
slckusr
Premium
join:2003-03-17
Greenville, SC
kudos:1

Slow downs between 4:30 and 6:00

Anyone know why this is happening.

I live in Maumee

While I dont expect flawless internet service all the time. I do not expect something like this to be consistent.

CBragg

@buckeyecom.net

Re: Slow downs between 4:30 and 6:00

I've been told by a couple sources that BEX was having several network and DNS issues over the past 2+ weeks. From what I can tell, things have improved, but it still isn't 100%.
Darkjeste

join:2007-03-16
Toledo, OH

Speeds since upgrade

Anyone still alive on this forum heh?

Well before the upgrade on March 1st of this year,I usually always got close to my 5Mbit download on the speed tests of this site and others.

Now since the upgrade most of the time it's worse,or around the same speeds.

Now I will say downloads are different,they do reach up to about 850k/sec now and hold steady between 790 to the 850k/sec mark.

It would be nice for actual speed tests to work,even on the speedtest on buckeye's site the max i can reach is 5.6Mbit's

Upload is always spot on with any test usually,around 512KB upload so about 61Kb/sec and nearly always holds that speed,I was quite shocked that upload speed didn't get bumped with the upgrade.

I believe the 10MBit package should have at least a 1Mbit upload if not 1.2Mbit and the new 7.0 Package should be at about 712 if not a little more.

I've been very happy with the service for many years now,I would just like to see the full 7Mbit package they advertise instead of the 6.5/6.6Mbit that we get which is about 840k/sec.

This happend with the old 5MBit package to untill a couple days before the upgrade,would always get about 4.5Mbits on download but then started getting the full speed a few days before they switched everyone on.

This maybe just how bandwith is calculated with them thoe,seems they would have to provision the modems to go a little over 7MBit to actually get the full speed as now it seems to round the speed down.

I know it's stupid to complain about half a Mbit,but I know the speed is there and it's capable of doing it since it did a few days before the upgrade.

Other then that,I'm glad they upgraded the speeds for everyone for free...This should keep people very happy for awhile longer,I know I am.
Done_Posting
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Premium
join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH

Re: Speeds since upgrade

I pretty much get 10Mbps (or higher) depending on when I test. Upstream is almost always within 10kbps of 755kbps (10Mbps / 800kbps package). There have been occasions where my tested speed was 9600kbps downstream, but that's not normal and is generally indicative of signal issues for my node.

On a side note, BEX does do some padding with their modem configs to make up for overhead. I believe there is something like a 5% - 10% cushion on downstream. As far as I know, this doesn't apply to upstream though. I'm pretty sure there's no cushioning there.

I'm with you on wanting more upstream. DOCSIS 3.0 can't come soon enough!

- Tate

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I may work for a telecom... but that doesn't mean I'm one of the bad guys.
tperl

join:2005-11-15
Columbus, OH
Reviews:
·WOW Internet and..
·AT&T U-Verse
My parents have buckeye at their house. I tested it out after the upgrade and noticed they were only getting about 3mbit dl and 300k upload. Did a router swap and they are now at full 7mbit dl speed. I can't believe Buckeye upgraded before Time Warner and some of the other "big guns" in Ohio. Still at 5/512 in Columbus for standard tier.
Darkjeste

join:2007-03-16
Toledo, OH
Yea I can see room for error on speed test depending on time of day,but since the upgrade the speed tests never go above 5.6-5.9mbs and just wondering why.

Right now it's 3:50AM in the morning and I just got 5.71Down and 487KBPS upload from the buckeye speed test.

dslreports speed test is usually always about 1Mbit less then that and same with speedtest.net I get about 5mbit even.

Rather annoying trying to get a friend to switch to buckeye and tell them the speed is great but can't do a simple speed test.
Done_Posting
Shoot to kill
Premium
join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH

Re: Speeds since upgrade

The only speed tester that I ever trust is Speakeasy's (»speakeasy.net/speedtest). It's always been spot-on accurate for me, even when I test using some beefier connections. Stick with the Illinois test and you should be golden. My work modem has an unrestricted 25Mbps downstream / 3Mbps up BEX policy, and Speakeasy Illinois always accurately reports it.

Also, if you have a virus scanner like Avast that does real time scanning, it may be the bottleneck. I'd bypass any routers, disable anti-virus, and see if that improves your results.

Good luck!

- Tate

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I may work for a telecom... but that doesn't mean I'm one of the bad guys.

Blackbeen

@buckeyecom.net

1 recommendation

BEX P2P Full speed 2 to 7AM ONLY as of 10-11-07

I've been a loyal customer of this cable monopoly since well before cable internet access was available in this area & presently shell out around $125 a month to them for basic cable, phone & BEX 7.0.
Right now I would gladly drop their sorry excuse for service in a second if I wasn't unfortunately to far from the AT&T dsl node to be able to subscribe to anything but the base tier of service.
Why? as 10-11-07 any P2P traffic from approximately 7AM to 2AM next day is so severely choked it is barely worth running & I'm not talking about a 10-20k cap (which would be bad enough in itself...) this is a drop from 60k up to a flaky 5k as soon as the clock hits 7 & on the down end you are lucky to receive flaky downloads of around 30k.
There are ZERO issues with my application settings or port forwarding as their arrogant & deceptive tech support seemed so keen to imply in the hush, hush to keep this packet filtering on the lowdown (If they are indeed even wise to it them self’s...). The activity is the same on or off router.

During the 19 hours of subpar service as for as »speedtest.buckeye-express.com/speedtest.html is concerned the connection is fine & you can browse the internet, read e-mails at peek speeds to your heart’s content but forget about down/uploading anything.
This isn't an issue of a bad line or modem, both checked out fine, this is an issue of a piss poor company too cheap to render even close to the services they advertise since serious competitors have yet to service in this area.
I'm not asking for T1 speeds just what I pay for.
Done_Posting
Shoot to kill
Premium
join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH

Re: BEX P2P Full speed 2 to 7AM ONLY as of 10-11-07

Hiya, Anonymous!

Two things:

a) First, you are an idiot... and I'm not just saying that because your rant oozes with "tin foil hat" conspiracy nonsense. I honestly feel that you simply don't know what you're talking about.

b) I routinely get over 5 Mbps on well seeded torrents, as do several other BEX users I've talked to. On occasion, I have managed to fully saturate my 10 Mbps connection with P2P traffic (when Suse 10.2 came out I maintained 10 Mbps for the duration of the entire DVD ISO torrent). I'd be happy to do it again and post screenshots if you don't believe me.

...

Okay, so maybe calling you an idiot is a little harsh. "Misinformed" may be more appropriate. My point though is that in spite of traffic shaping (which I agree does occur on BEX), it is still possible to achieve reasonable P2P throughput. I firmly believe believe that there are other circumstances involved in your poor P2P performance -- whether you're aware of them or not.

Well, best of luck to you in your crusade to bring down the evil Buckeye Empire (the "piss poor company" as you put it). Keep fighting the good fight and stick it to the man!

- Tate

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Happiness is an OC-48 in your basement...

Blackbeen

@buckeyecom.net

Re: BEX P2P Full speed 2 to 7AM ONLY as of 10-11-07

Sadly buckeyes are not the only ones: »hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/···=DEFAULT
To use this sort of hardware: »swik.net/User:anushshetty/engadg···ity/knvl
But I heard the creator wore a tin had so I wouldn’t give this much credence…

Regarding point b)
To repeat what I said, for the past week (like clockwork) at 7 AM P2P traffic drops from 55-60k to 5-10k on the upstream overall until 2 AM the following day & I too can post screen shots of this to prove the clock like precision. Between 2&7 AM transfers flow as they have normally have 24 hours a day for at least the last year with the reasonable amount of ebb & flow during high traffic times of day. So now transfers are roughly a 1/5 of what they were prior to this last week. Users I regularly connect to at consistent speeds w/o a hitch (& have done so for eons) on Soulseek have & dropped from 100k to a flaky 10k all day long (this is all users not just some random out of the blue connection). During these periods I must note that speed tests at the BEX test page read normal & web browsing is as fast as can be, the bandwidth is there it’s just not being used (Gee I wonder why...) I DO NOT consider this to be 'reasonable P2P throughput' if you do that's fine by me I could care less…
If you think I am misinformed please DO bring on these pearls of networking wisdom to enlighten the dark cave of ignorance I live in, otherwise please ignore this post I have zero interest in Springer like web flames & I'm well aware of your posting here & I'm so, so surprised at your prompt response.
But PLEASE don't assume that I'm too dim to know how to forward ports on a router or set the most common of settings on any given Torrent or P2P application like the Tech Support at BEX did OK?
Done_Posting
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join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH

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Re: BEX P2P Full speed 2 to 7AM ONLY as of 10-11-07

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If you think I am misinformed please DO bring on these pearls of networking wisdom to enlighten the dark cave of ignorance I live in, otherwise please ignore this post I have zero interest in Springer like web flames & I'm well aware of your posting here & I'm so, so surprised at your prompt response.
No.

As you already pointed out, I have many DSLR posts under my belt, a great number of which deal with traffic shaping. My days of offering assistance to BEX users ended after I got sick of hearing the endless pissing and moaning from the same group of people over and over. Want my pearls of wisdom? Check the archives.

Regarding the links you posted, the first one is simply a rehash of what's been said on DSLR a thousand times over the last half decade; traffic shaping exists and is becoming a widespread means of network resource management. So? The second link is admittedly more interesting (I love pictures of expensive networking gear), but BEX does not use NetEnforcer products. They do use similiar equipment though, which Vonage and other latency critical application users should be thankful for.

Look, I know how this thread is going to play out. You're going to start telling me how BEX needs to upgrade their network in order to support more P2P traffic. You'll cite the fact that you pay "X" dollars per month for "X" speed, and you'll tell me how you're being robbed if you don't get "X" speed 24/7. I'll counter by explaining that broadband is a shared resource which is subject to traffic shaping as your ISP sees fit, regardless of your opinion. I'll probably tell you to screw off and go purchase a T1 if your P2P activities are that important to you. This same old back and forth "Springer-like" web flame as you put it will continue ad nauseum. We're in agreement on one thing -- I too have zero interest in pursuing this with you, as you're clearly a critic of the service whereas I am a proponent.

I will end my side of our little feud by saying that for the most part, BEX service offers what I want (with the exception of a beefier upstream) at a price I can live with, and is the best choice for me. Feel free to disagree, feel free to call me a dickhead -- I don't care. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to browse BTJunkie and The Pirate Bay...

- Tate

EDIT: Attached screenshot

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Anon Name

@buckeyecom.net
I too had problems w/ speed dropping to a crawl at a specific time of day, seemed like somebody was taking over my connection. Had Tech out to the house, he found where the cable entered the basement wall, the cable had rubbed thru the polastic and exposed the Sheilding. Guess at a certian time of day, the humidity was causing the problem.
He ran new cable from source box into the house. Havent had a problem since. Just curious as to maybe around 7am is dew causing your problems in a similar way as mine was.
KR

Blackbeen

@buckeyecom.net

Re: BEX P2P Full speed 2 to 7AM ONLY as of 10-11-07

Thanks for the reply, unfortunately buckeye checked the lines & swapped the cable modem on Friday & it didn't change a thing, as I had suspected.
The cable guy was very helpful & willing to assist (unlike the majority of arrogant phone tech support I have dealt with at buckeye) but most of these line guys don't know much beyond checking the cables & installing the hardware.
As I write my total bandwidth usage is hovering around 10k up & down but I'm sure when 2AM traffic rolls around it will flow as normal.
As much as I hate to I'm considering opting for the only tier of dsl available 1.5/256 I had a trial a month or so ago & given the low speed of the connection it was solid (& $20 vs $50). I worry that AT&T might soon take up similar packet shaping practices though as this seems to be the trend in North America these days, so...

william berry

@buckeyecom.net
btw it has been affecting my ps3's network connection i seem to get disconnected or signed out often and downloading demos and such on the psn network took forever by forever i mean around 8 hours for a 1 GB demo

william berry

@buckeyecom.net
I also do agree with blackbeen thats its been a major inconvenience in the least at least let me have 50kB of down speed sheesh im not a major downloader by any means its unfair how they shape the traffic for p2p whereas ftp and regular traffic doesnt get affected.
PaulieFresh

join:2006-04-26
Rossford, OH

1 recommendation

Well, I do have to agree with you that there was some pretty intense traffic shaping/throttling going on for a few days or so. It seems to have disappeared though so there's no complaints from my end really. While they're still offering paltry upload speeds, they ARE serving us with some of the best speeds in the entire state, or at least that I know of. I remember when I tried to haggle with a phone rep guy and I said, even if I front the money for the upgrade (which I offered some insane amount I would never actually pay) they said there was no way to boost my upload speed. Then he slipped with a speed increase that was "coming soon". That was over the summer though, and soon to a company is something like 6-8 months, maybe even a year. If you ever take the time to, try search for buckeye articles on the internet. You'll see interviews with higher up people there talking about some of the products they've just purchased and are implementing. Then just go and search for those products, learn how they work/what they do, and imagine what can come from it!

Also, why don't we start getting this forum more active? Like come on, there are all these people that claim to be dis-satisfied with buckeye's service, so come and voice your problems here! After all, it is a free forum, and it's here for us to talk on it, and you never know, maybe someone that works there that isn't biased might stop by and give you helpful information

wruckman
Ruckman.net

join:2007-10-25
Northwood, OH
Every ISP I have ever used has used P2P throttling. But I can't expect T1 or higher speeds for $40 a month connection.

To be honest, 99% of the time I do get full bandwidth or close to it. I do see issues with seeding torrents sometimes but that is expected.

Plus, to get around traffic shaping all you have to do is encrypt your traffic because traffic shaping cant read your packets. Unless your ISP decides to rate limit encrypted connections. But that would be a mistake because they wouldn't know what they were limiting.

You can also purchase VPNs from other ISPs in other countries that don't have the P2P restrictions thus encrypting your traffic and bypassing filtering.

But you have to know what your doing and understand how the technology actually works before you could figure this out on your own.

whereishelpicon

@buckeyecom.net

Is BEX Throttling Some of My Video Games?

Okay I really don't want to piss anyone off or anything but I think BEX is starting to throttle a game I play called City of Heroes. I've never had packet loss issues in this game until yesterday. And amazingly, during the times that another poster said torrent traffic is throttled and only at full speed during 2 to 7 AM. That I'm fine with, I'm usually downloading all my torrents over night anyways. The problem is that I think City of Heroes is being throttled as if it were torrent traffic. About an hour ago when I logged into the game I didn't notice any packet loss at all and I wasn't lagging a bit. Even the tools in the game to check your connection to the servers said my connection was fine. As soon as 7 AM rolled around I started getting just massive packet loss and it was almost impossible to play.

Could this just be a mistake? Or did I play the game too much and BEX decided to throttle it? I've ruled out spyware and other internet connectivity problems. This is happening to nothing else on my computer, even ventrilo maintains a normal ping. I know it just sounds absurd but theres absolutely nothing else I can think of. I have never had this problem till yesterday and nothing has changed with the game or my computer set up between then.

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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:39

[NEWS] Cox Will Offer Some DOCSIS 3.0 In 2008

»Cox Will Offer Some DOCSIS 3.0 In 2008 - posted on the home page
wistlo

join:2003-01-04
New Orleans, LA

BEX and email from .ws domain

I have a .ws domain with email addresses. A BEX customer in Toledo able to receive emails from my domain, but none of his outgoing email to my .ws domain address arrives. His email does reach my address in my employer's .com domain.

Does BEX block customers' outgoing email to the.ws domain?
Done_Posting
Shoot to kill
Premium
join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH

Re: BEX and email from .ws domain

Nope. There might be a DNS problem though. If you want to PM me, I'd be happy to do a little testing with one of my BEX e-mail addresses for you.

- Tate

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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:39

[NEWS] Buckeye Offers 12Mbps

»Buckeye Offers 12Mbps - posted on the home page

Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:39

[NEWS] Buckeye Cablesystem Launching 20Mbps Tier

»Buckeye Cablesystem Launching 20Mbps Tier - posted on the home page
Darkjeste

join:2007-03-16
Toledo, OH

20Mbps?!?

Well it's nice to know they are keeping up with the other companies,would be nice if the other packages got a little boost from this seeing as now the elite package is far far behind in speed but I doubt it.

Now after the 20mbps is introduced look for a monthly cap on download limit soon to follow I am guessing.

Please tell me if i am wrong,as I hope it does not come to that,and if it does hopefully they are somewhat fair and do as much as Comcast at least and not try to be as cheap as Time Warner and AT&T.
Done_Posting
Shoot to kill
Premium
join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH

Re: 20Mbps?!?

No, I'm pretty sure that all the other tiers are staying put. At least no official updates have made it my way yet. Remember though, speeds were just bumped up earlier this year so my guess is that there won't be any more increases until DOCSIS 3.0 services are officially rolled out. That's just my personal view on things though, so remember to take it all with a grain of salt.

I don't want to take the liberty of commenting on anything else you asked unless / until something official is announced.

- Tate

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Happiness is an OC-768 in your basement...
Darkjeste

join:2007-03-16
Toledo, OH

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Consumption Graph?

Anyone else notice the Consumption graph in the membership services section on the website and also now under the speedtest on the main buckeye-express.com website?

I never noticed it before and I am pretty sure it's new as of this month but I could be wrong. I don't pay too much attention but I check speeds every couple weeks and didn't notice it the other week.

Anyone think this is a prelude to usage caps that will be coming sometime next year? In the FAQ it seems to be playing it off to help you better monitor your usage,but it seems kinda strange to me that they would take the time to make the utility when even some of the other companies that do currently cap can't even make one properly.

I hope if they do decide to do caps that they are pretty reasonable with them and not a bunch of cheap skates and try some garbage 5-20 gig cap.

I only use the 2Mbit package right now and have been for quite a while but looks like my monthly average is around 50 gigs or so. With all the game betas and crap being so large now,and same with World of Warcraft patches and updates for the 10 other games I play and soon to be updates for Aion. (not even counting the windows updates I haven't done in a few months since I have been using Windows 7)

I can see where I could do even more in a month and hope this is not the start of them capping everyone.

Suggestion for buckeye.

First package should be no less then 20 gigs,second package no less then 60-70 gigs,3rd package should be at least 120-150gigs and anything higher then the 8mbit package should be unlimited.

Or better yet it should all stay unlimited like it should be.

Joshua

@buckeyecom.net

Another Speed Upgrade soon?

Any chance we will see some speed increases across the board again? I know we had one early last year i think it was or was it the end of the 2008?

I think the first two packages could use the most help,the others seem to be in a pretty good spot. The 2 meg package maybe pushed to 2.5 or 3 megs even and for sure that sad 150 kbps should be moved to 512 kbps if not 1 meg it's self.

I know it's only a 20$ a month connection but honestly you really can't do much with it. I had to use it for a few months myself and anymore with all the websites and their video ads and all the streaming content about with youtube and google video you really can't even partially enjoy any of it.

Other then that great service and hope it keeps going strong for the years to come. I will never get rid of it myself unless I happen to move to an area that buckeye does not service.

Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:39

[NEWS] Buckeye Launches 30 Mbps, Testing IPTV

»Buckeye Launches 30 Mbps, Testing IPTV - posted on the home page