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Comments on news posted 2009-01-07 10:36:36: While Verizon certainly is no saint on the regulatory and legal front, particularly in Pennsylvania, this week's trial of former Democratic State Representative Vincent J. Fumo shows that political telecom skulduggery works both ways. ..

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JSRoman
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Bad soap opera material

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Fumo

"Senator Fumo has represented South Philadelphia's 1st Senatorial District since 1978 when he succeeded Buddy Cianfrani, who had been convicted of racketeering, bribery and obstruction of justice. Fumo was the Democrat ranking Member of the Senate appropriations committee until his federal indictment in February 2007. He also serves on the Communications & Technology, Consumer Protection, Game & Fisheris, Rules, & Urban Affairs & Housing Committees. [3]

In addition to his State Senate work, Fumo is associated with the Philadelphia Law firm of Dilworth Paxson LLP. He was the Chairman of First Penn Bank. The bank was originally founded as Pennsylvania Savings Bank, by his grandfather. Fumo took over control after his father was convicted of bank fraud in 1976. "
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Business As Usual In Philly

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It's just another day of business-as-usual in Philly politics. Fumo is the devil and has been extorting money from citizens and businesses for years.

Whelan was a pussy for not coming forward to the FBI when the shakedown began. Willard Rouse, a developer and civic leader, was shaken down by the mob many years ago and he directly went to the FBI who brought down the whole of Philly's crime families. Whelan went to other tainted councilmen to ask what to do when Fumo tried his shakedown and was told to work it out with Fumo.
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Off-topic observation

Why is it that when a scandal involves one party, you almost never see party affiliation mentioned in the article? The other party usually is stamped in the first few words in similar reports.

You pretty much can tell the party just by the omission. You guys know what I'm talking about.


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IIRC Philly was the city that passed a law to get rid of the bottom 2 council members... who just so happened to be 2 of the only 3 members of the minority party.


Sabre
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Endemic corruption

Of course Pennsylvania is known for its corruption. But then, I'm not really aware of any state that's known for its unfailing honour and honesty.

Is there one?


cabana
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"Fumo isn't being charged with his dealings with Verizon"... why not?

Big Dawg 23

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Re: Off-topic observation

I agree whole heartily. I knew better than to search to see his party affiliation because of what it would show. You and I were correct on his party afflilation.


Mac Bridger
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What does party affiliation matter? Both parties are full of corrupt scumballs. Does it really matter which way they lie to you?
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Re: Endemic corruption

said by Sabre See Profile :

Of course Pennsylvania is known for its corruption. But then, I'm not really aware of any state that's known for its unfailing honour and honesty.

Is there one?
Rhode Island?


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said by Mac Bridger See Profile :

What does party affiliation matter? Both parties are full of corrupt scumballs. Does it really matter which way they lie to you?
We are making a commentary on the media coverage, not the party. You are right, both parties are full of crooks.


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It does not matter, except that it demonstrates the media bias which the media denies.

Media bias is not so much about which stories are reported but how they are reported and the inferences made and those omitted, so as to taint the readers view in the direction desired by the media.

I recently pointed this out to some co-workers in a local news paper article about a scandal where the politicians political party affiliation was not mentioned until near the end of the article. But when it is the other party which the media is opposed to most of the time, the political affiliation is usually in the first paragraph or even part of the headline. They just have to have that bashing effect.

It is sort of like asking a question with the desired answer embeded.
For example, ‘so and so did not talk to you about such and such did they?’

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Re: Bad soap opera material

You just can't make this stuff up.

This guy's life would make a great movie.
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Re: Off-topic observation

said by N O Y B See Profile :


It does not matter, except that it demonstrates the media bias which the media denies.

Media bias is not so much about which stories are reported but how they are reported and the inferences made and those omitted, so as to taint the readers view in the direction desired by the media.

I recently pointed this out to some co-workers in a local news paper article about a scandal where the politicians political party affiliation was not mentioned until near the end of the article. But when it is the other party which the media is opposed to most of the time, the political affiliation is usually in the first paragraph or even part of the headline. They just have to have that bashing effect.

It is sort of like asking a question with the desired answer embeded.
For example, ‘so and so did not talk to you about such and such did they?’

Exactly. The media in general seems to think this "selective fact reporting" bias is okay. Our local paper, the Orlando Sentinel, is particularly bad (way worse than Karl could ever dream to be even in his most biased moments which are rare). They report on the merits, morals, and virtues of building red light cameras every week at least once, yet fail to mention the numerous studies disproving their "safety" despite many comments and emails and letters to the editor notifying them. Every story mentioning a murder does not include a physical description of the suspect unless they are white. They spam the front page with stories about how a light rail train will save Orlando's economy while omitting the fact that many similar projects in the USA fail and the train is likely to be a huge revenue loss (they already spent 300,000 consulting for a name and logo for this train that has yet to see approval from the legislature). I'm not picking on the left-wing biased news agencies either, the Union Tribune in San Diego was pretty bad with "fact omission" bias with a very right-wing political slant to nearly every article.

In general the editors here do a good job of keeping the articles unbiased, although this "fact omission" slant appears from time to time. It's just the way things are in today's times, I guess. I can't really think of a truly neutral news agency for any type of news.


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Re: Endemic corruption

I thought the same thing. Why isn't he sharing a cell with Bubba right now? Is he already in deep enough crap to where it won't matter?


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said by R4M0N See Profile :

Why is it that when a scandal involves one party, you almost never see party affiliation mentioned in the article? The other party usually is stamped in the first few words in similar reports.

You pretty much can tell the party just by the omission. You guys know what I'm talking about.


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...

I'm reminded of Rodney Dangerfield's character in the movie "Back to School." He plays a comical, well seasoned, and very successful business man who goes back to college. While in a business class he is entertained by the professor's outline of the costs and process of starting a business. Rodney's character goes on to explain what is really involved - containing details like found in Fumo and Verizon's arrangements.


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reply to NY Tel
Re: Endemic corruption

But Illinois has shadowed our record with a pretty stellar one of its own. We love our crooks until they get caught.

Seems like that's the way of all crooks... Madoff comes to mind lately.


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Re: Off-topic observation

Who Gary Con-DID IT?


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Dude, come on.

It's the STINK-quirer. Of course it's biased.

I've lived in the Philly area my whole life. Everyone around here knows the Democrat machine runs Philly, and the Republican machine runs Delaware County. Has all my life.

Fumo is a wart on the ass of progress. John Street and his brother belong in Federal prison. Philly has to be one of the most corrupt cities in America.

Pennsylvania is rather corrupt, but I think that's by osmosis. Sharing that long state boundary with New Joisey has it's price...
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reply to N O Y B
I would like to see direct examples of this.
Next you come across such articles, provide direct links to the online stories, or scan the articles and post. I've never seen blatant bias for either party in the media in this regard...some stories mention the party affiliation up front, others do not, regardless of which party the subject is a member of.
Would like to see examples of this theory...
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