ILpt4U
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1 edit | Please Please Please Please Please!
This would be so awesome. I would run out and buy the bigger HDD for my 360 if I could use it as an additional DVR for IPTV.
Think of the Promos AT&T could run, too: The regular terms, no contract, rebates, etc etc for the standard installation with the regular Moto/Cisco equipment. -OR- The same rebates, but with a 2? year contract, to get an 360 Elite as your DVR, or even just a regular STB.
The youtube videos are aplenty of the 360 running the Microsoft IPTV software (the same package the U-Verse STBes run).
And should MS/AT&T start public, or even "friendlies" trials, sign me up! |
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ztmike
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Michigan City, IN | U-Verse customers only?
The service will probably only be for U-Verse users and then At&t will charge more for access for the 360.
I would be shocked if they didn't charge you more to access it from the 360. |
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MyDogHsFleas
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1 edit | Bandwidth caps are not relevant to IPTV
As I've pointed out many times in these forums, comparing U-verse TV to streaming video over the Internet to your PC, and then crying foul because there are bandwidth caps coming on the streaming video but not on the TV stream, is a complete non sequitur.
When you make this comparison, you are either simply not paying attention to the facts involved, or you are deliberately ignoring them for the sake of promulgating an inane anti-AT&T conspiracy theory.
Why? It's simple. With U-verse IPTV, one video channel essentially equals one single video stream on the network, FOR ALL USERS. So if there are 50,000 users watching a show, there's only ONE STREAM ON THE BACKBONE.
By contrast, if those same 50,000 users are watching streaming video from a server to their PC, that's 50,000 SEPARATE VIDEO STREAMS ON THE BACKBONE.
So, the statement "They are going to cap my Internet, that's anti-competitive, they just want me to use their TV service instead of streaming/downloaded video on my PC!" turns out to be completely unsupportable crap. |
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hayabusa3303
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clubs: | Just one more reason.
for the xbox 360 to go rrod. |
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Mr Anon
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Re: Bandwidth caps are not relevant to IPTV
I too dislike the argument about this as it is too shallow. There are caps on the IntErnet not IntRAnet and one stream per channels as you state.
One could argue that traffic that never has to leave the network although it's destination is public should also not count towards the cap (AT&T customer to AT&T customer) however the one downfall would be complexity.
I don't think it would take too much to allow the 360 to work as from what I can see of media room it seems to have a great relationship with Media Center and extenders which that is exactly what a 360 is. With that being said I do hope this happens, happens, soon and that we get Media Sharing soon since they are are taking away flickr pro accounts. |
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NOCMan
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Flower Mound, TX | We'll it wont be Verizon
Verizon has made it clear they're happy to buck any popular trend and go their own way.
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b10010011
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Bellingham, WA | Why do they insist on being tied to one service provider?
That certainly is a good way to alienate a broad base of potential customers and guarantee the quick death of this idea. |
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SteveLV702
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Henderson, NV | AT&T & XBox 360
Now if AT&T's U-Verse was actually available here instead of this crappy Embarq and they dont have IPTV Service. |
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koolkid1563
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Powell, WY
clubs: | reply to b10010011
Re: Why do they insist on being tied to one service provider?
AT&T is one of the few IPTV providers using Microsoft's Media Room middleware here in the States... |
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nixen
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Re: Please Please Please Please Please!
said by ILpt4U  :This would be so awesome. I would run out and buy the bigger HDD for my 360 if I could use it as an additional DVR for IPTV. What would really be awesome, if they got things off the ground, would be to allow the XBox360 to mount CIFS shares. Then, you wouldn't need to worry about the dinky harddrive options on the XBox360.
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nixen
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Re: U-Verse customers only?
said by ztmike :The service will probably only be for U-Verse users and then At&t will charge more for access for the 360. I would be shocked if they didn't charge you more to access it from the 360. While it would be understandable if they charged a greater rental fee for a 360 versus a standard DVR, it doesn't make sense to charge more for the video data.
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ztmike
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| said by nixen :said by ztmike :The service will probably only be for U-Verse users and then At&t will charge more for access for the 360. I would be shocked if they didn't charge you more to access it from the 360. While it would be understandable if they charged a greater rental fee for a 360 versus a standard DVR Why? The consumer OWNS the 360, why in the world would I want to pay a rental fee for something I bought out right at a retail store?
That's like going out and buying a cable modem at Wal Mart then paying the ISP a rental fee for it. |
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
| You own nothing!! See here in America, the company owns you. You should pay double or even triple for items you already own. Why? because you want to support your ISP to the death, right? Stupidity prevails. I bet they could sell people on the idea, even if they owned an Xbox360. Sell it as an IMPROVED DVR and gaming option, and most people be too dumb to know what they owned would work already. |
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nixen
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said by ztmike :said by nixen :said by ztmike :The service will probably only be for U-Verse users and then At&t will charge more for access for the 360. I would be shocked if they didn't charge you more to access it from the 360. While it would be understandable if they charged a greater rental fee for a 360 versus a standard DVR Why? The consumer OWNS the 360, why in the world would I want to pay a rental fee for something I bought out right at a retail store? That's like going out and buying a cable modem at Wal Mart then paying the ISP a rental fee for it. This would assume that the service-provider is furnishing the XBox360 like any other set top box: it would be a rental.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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Re: Please Please Please Please Please!
said by ILpt4U :This would be so awesome. I would run out and buy the bigger HDD for my 360 if I could use it as an additional DVR for IPTV. well except the largest HDD MS makes is only 120 GB. |
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iampedro
join:2005-02-12
Houston, TX | reply to SteveLV702
Re: AT&T & XBox 360
Well I hope this is true b/c I am getting Uverse hopefully soon and I just upgraded to 120 gig hd on my 360. |
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Wizeguy
join:2008-08-23
Safety Harbor, FL
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Re: Bandwidth caps are not relevant to IPTV
Say it was IPTV but wireless live cable TV direct from your computer to your TV Screen or wireless device (Laptop, I-Phone etc). Watch Cable and Network shows just like you do know when you sit down on your couch.Zero Bandwidth caps because it's not streaming video it's live from the Network. Would that be cool or what!!! |
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