anony101
@comcast.net | Who can blame them
The cost can be quite high to police the internet for piracy. It could be the difference between staying in business or going out of business. |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
2 edits | It wont stop piracy
All it will do is anger the pirates, they will say f u to the RIAA and switch providers or leech wi-fi from neighbors.
When the free wi-fi people get a notice they will be shocked, angered, say fu to the RIAA, and switch providers.
I don't pirate and I say F U to the RIAA already.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
 ·Comcast
| Strongarm!
"It begins with Nexicon sending the downloader’s ISP a DMCA notice which is auto-generated by MARC. The ISP is then legally obligated to forward this notice to the infringer. The user clicks a link within the email taking them to the GetAmnesty website, and in less than three clicks, the user can settle with the copyright holder for a nominal fee."
Automated Protection racket?
And people wonder why others call them the MAFIAA. 
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DOStradamus
MVM
join:2003-11-04
Santa Rosa, CA
| ....which is auto-generated by MARC
and is, of another false positive.
I then send a boiler-plate email back up the chain, with a link in it to KMAyouIllegitimi.org, that features a pic of my big, white, flabby backside, where they're invited to "kiss and make up".
-NK |
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exocet_cm
In memory of dadkins
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join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs:   | Get em Jerry Scroggin
And while you're at it, deploy your services to Winnfield, La and Tannehill, La  |
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA
| reply to gaforces
Re: It wont stop piracy
my guess is that the p2p networks will increase their usage in encryption. the only problem i can forsee is how to stop the MAFIAA (or other self proclaimed copyright cops) from downloading the torrent file and looking at the IPs to get an idea who has the file. blacklisting can only do so much. |
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exocet_cm
In memory of dadkins
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New Orleans, LA
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| The Alternative
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Austinloop
join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX
| RIAA cops
If the RIAA, or the other turd bucket MPAA, wants other people to do their job, then they need to pay them from the results of their previous suits, but first the RI/MPAA needs to have the law say that the ISPs have to do their bidding.
Other than the RI/MPAA promising to pay at least $10 per month per subscriber at this time, tell them to take a long walk off of a short pier where the great white sharks swim. |
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Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
·Comcast
·Embarq
|  RIAA's shakedown process is nothing new.
 The "Happy Birthday To You" song police were on the prowl long before there was an internet. When not looking for unpaid performances of the happy birthday to you song they look for other violations of the copyright law such as playing unlicensed background music in a business or playing unlicensed music for customers on hold. They employ lawyers that were previously experts on pursuing slip and fall lawsuits. All of these demand letters have one thing in common. They figure out how much it would cost for an accused business to fight a lawsuit and then send them a bill for something less then that amount. The business submits to the extortion, writes a check and writes the cost off as a business expense. Unfortunately wrongly accused individual citizens do not have that luxury. Copyright law must be changed to require the RIAA and other copyright control agencies require to give alleged violators an opportunity to cease and desist before demanding monetary damages. Furthermore an ISP must be prohibited from disconnecting a customer's broadband service without due process by an independent agency. If an alleged violator receives a notice they would be stupid not to cease and desist. That would also stop the RIAA from shaking down innocent subscribers. If one Googles ASCAP and the Girl Scouts thew will find that ASCAP tried to shake down the Girl Scouts in 1996 for fees to sing copyrighted songs around their campfires. That action resulted in ASCAP getting reams of bad press. ASCAP finally relented and agreed to accept a token amount from the Girl Scouts so that ASCAP could maintain their copy-right. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC |  If the RIAA wants it ...
... then the RIAA can pay for it. Simple. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC | reply to Mr Matt
Re: RIAA's shakedown process is nothing new.
My eyes are now crossed and brain just exploded. Please use paragraphs. |
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deadzoned
Premium
join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
·Cox HSI
| It's weird...
I am at a point now where I have accepted the idea that at some point I may just have to do without the majority of media entertainment I currently enjoy.
I would miss things like movies and music at first, but I think I could get to a point where I could live without. The benefits would be: more simplified living, saving lot's of money, and not having to deal with all of the crap that these clueless media companies make the consumer go through.
Honestly, doesn't it almost seem like too much of a hassle now? I mean, they have basically declared war on their own customers, with little or no regard for the rule of law and what might be best for the customer.
Maybe we should give them what they want. Total control, with absolutely no legitimate customer base who would willingly pay for their content. If they actually felt the consequences of what happens when you bite the hand that feeds you, maybe they would finally wake up! I doubt it though... history shows otherwise. |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| Auctions?
Did I read that graphic right, and they plan to monitor auction site traffic too?
I can see it now...for $5 extra a month they'll give your eBay traffic "priority" (which is another word for "not into the bit bucket").
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| reply to dadkins
Re: Strongarm!
said by dadkins  :Automated Protection racket? And people wonder why others call them the MAFIAA. Just like the ones cities use with their automated traffic light tickets, which is outsourced to 3rd party technology companies.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by dadkins :Automated Protection racket? And people wonder why others call them the MAFIAA. Just like the ones cities use with their automated traffic light tickets, which is outsourced to 3rd party technology companies. At least around here, they were challenged in court and so far, the ruling has been upheld that they cannot be used. Most of them have been taken back down ... |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| reply to RadioDoc
Re: Auctions?
said by RadioDoc :Did I read that graphic right, and they plan to monitor auction site traffic too? I can see it now...for $5 extra a month they'll give your eBay traffic "priority" (which is another word for "not into the bit bucket"). Or worse yet, you'll receive a DMCA letter because the copyright holder sold you a "non-transferable license" to listen to their music so you have to pony up a fee to re-sell it.
The music industry has been trying to kill the used CD market for years ... and I doubt the MPAA and/or movie studios would care one iota if the used DVD market went bye-bye too. Hell, you might even see the game publishers get on board with this to help stifle online sales of used video games. |
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
| reply to gaforces
Re: It wont stop piracy
said by gaforces :All it will do is anger the pirates It will do more than that; one thing that large companies do is support burdensome regulation on the industry because it hits the small guys much harder than the big guys. In this way it will reduce the competition.
It's not like the big guys like to waste their resources on foolish stuff like this, but they see a clear secondary gain.
Steve
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axiomatic
join:2006-08-23
Tomball, TX
| Fruitless effort
The plan is doomed from the start. What have we learned about pirates more than anything else? THEY ADAPT!
Plug one hole, they drill a new one elsewhere.
All this will do is cause them to hide their tracks even better. It is useless to throw money at detecting them. All money should be spent towards pirates who resell, and how you litigate against them.
Joe Schmoe who is just downloading warez for his own personal use. Leave him alone as he can't really call for support for his hacked product so he has hamstrung himself already and he really was never going to buy the product in the first place. |
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Simply J
@comcast.net
| Another way big buiness is stillin your right
Can we say invasion of privacy. That is a load, so you are telling me that a third party company can strong arm the ISP into giving out information about where I go and what I do. I think the constitution states that is unlawful, Oh and by the way RIAA what about the 10.5 billion you made last year well three of the biggest financial companies went under. The RIAA isn't hurting for money...they are just being corrupt like always.. Are you going to get Lars from metallica to whine for you again. The RIAA is a joke, stealing from the artist to fund there privately owned radio stations and control the billboards you listen to... to be frank some one should sue them for monopolizing the market and not allowing free trade of music. These are the same guys that made royalty rate for internet music 300%. Face it people as the world changes the same greedy bastards will come up with new tricks...The people of world of American need to stand up and shut these suckers down. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Matt
Re: Strongarm!
said by Matt :said by TKJunkMail :Just like the ones cities use with their automated traffic light tickets, which is outsourced to 3rd party technology companies. At least around here, they were challenged in court and so far, the ruling has been upheld that they cannot be used. Most of them have been taken back down ... Bingo. An officer must sign off on each and every red light camera ticket. |
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