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Maxo
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Tallahassee, FL
clubs: | Re: :( The poor won't be able to watch TV. Wow! Who cares? It'll be good for them. If only there was a way we could get the poor away from the TV and get the yuppies glued to it life would be much better. | |
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join:2003-11-07
Carol Stream, IL | Re: :( If their not watching TV they will probably begin shooting each other. Neighborhood crimes will go up, drug abuse will go up, all the vices that have been fixed with TV! haha.. | |
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Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
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Peabody, MA
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| Re: :( said by en102  :They can film it as reality TV. Tune in to Fox for the premiere episode of Transition on February 17th.  | |
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join:2005-03-21
Littleton, CO | Re: :( Yeah, some folks might rediscover the local library where books can be checked out for free - no adaptor required. | |
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Dragoonfly
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Rialto, CA | Re: :( That's assuming that the library is open rather than closed due to cost-cutting in local government. | |
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join:2007-07-13
Middletown, NY | >The poor won't be able to watch TV.
Sure they could.. all they'd have to is buy one less pair of $200 sneakers. | |
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join:2008-10-21
Birmingham, AL | To jc100 post...Your statement was pushing it dont you think? | |
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| said by shortyd999 :To jc100 post...Your statement was pushing it don't you think? I think it was about right!
But if they ain't watching the boob tube they will be making babies we get to pay for, tough choice, it is not like this switch was a secret. | |
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neonhomer
Honoray Mythbuster
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join:2004-01-27
Edgewater, FL
clubs: | Re: :( ...or $4000 rims for their $250 car... | |
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join:2002-04-10 | Re: :( The rims are stolen and the car was found. There's no cost cutting there. Sorry. | |
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join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| Re: :( said by seaquake :If you are too stupid to know that your TV isn't going to work on February 17th because you didn't follow instructions (broadcast ad naseum for the past 18 months) then tough noogies. I agree. If they watch so little TV that they have not seen the PSAs about the cut-over, then they have no right to be catered to since they will not be watching after Feb 17 anyway. Ditto if they HAVE seen and ignored the PSAs. Get it over with already. | |
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| Even if the fed delays, the major networks should cut off analog anyway. considering the FCC sold their licenses off to the telcos id imagine they have no requirement to Bcast in analog anymore other the not loosing viewers.
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| Re: Thanks, Morons There is a valid reason to hold off the transition, but this isn't it. Now, had they come out and said that they had to push back the transition to allow for more testing into coverage areas, that would be a good reason.
I recently found out that there are some areas which will be completely cut off from OTA transmissions. My father lives in Morgantown, WV, roughly 60 miles south of Pittsburgh. On analog, he is able to receive 11 channels. When he switched over to digital, he was able to receive exactly 0...
I have a feeling that this is going to be a mess for a lot of people. And not just the "poor and minorities" as some expletive deletive said.
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join:2002-04-10 | Well my area SUCKS for digital. I can get a SHIT TON of stations on rabbit ears. I get jack squat even with an amplified antenna =(. | |
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join:2002-04-10
| Re: Thanks, Morons Only station I seem to get is Telemundo. Seems the Spanish channel is the only one that has proper strength and signal. Lame. No Me gustarlo! Chingada Telemundo y espanol. =P. Can translate that on your own. I'm not spanish and nor do I want to watch spanish channel. Doh. Will check out link. Spent 35 dollars on amplified antenna and 60 on box but doesnt help much. Seems channels either come in at points or are choppy with digital distortion. Can't seem to get many in too well. Everyone else seems to say this area blows and has cable. Can't afford that right now due to the fine economy and what not. So blah. I understand why they want to change, but I'm not too happy. I went out and bought the equipment, only to find it's practically USELESS. | |
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join:2005-01-07
Benton, AR | Re: Thanks, Morons Are you using an outdoor antenna? | |
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join:2002-04-10 | Re: Thanks, Morons Indoor amplified antenna. Live in Apartment. No where really to mount one less I hang it off rails of balcony. Then i got problem of getting wire back to tv, cause I cant drill a hole in wall to feed it back. So kind of stuck. | |
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join:2007-07-12
Sterling, VA
| said by Mac Bridger :I recently found out that there are some areas which will be completely cut off from OTA transmissions. My father lives in Morgantown, WV, roughly 60 miles south of Pittsburgh. On analog, he is able to receive 11 channels. When he switched over to digital, he was able to receive exactly 0... Are any of the stations your father gets low power (LP) or translators (TX)? Those are not required to switch to digital on Feb. 17 and most are still analog only. Some LPs and TX will flash cut to digital soon, but it may take 2-3 years before most of them do.
Clarksburg, WV has 2 stations flash cutting back to their analog channel. WDTV-DT CBS 5 in Clarksburg is operating at a weak 100 watts on VHF 6; will flash cut to 5 at a much stronger 10 kW. If you father picks up Pittsburgh stations, 3 of the VHF stations there have their digital channel on UHF and stay on UHF after the transition. In many cases people who get poor digital reception need an antenna setup with better UHF performance. The HDTV technical forum at www.avsforum.com is a good place to find antenna and reception advice (»www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdis···php?f=25) | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
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| said by Mac Bridger :I recently found out that there are some areas which will be completely cut off from OTA transmissions. My father lives in Morgantown, WV, roughly 60 miles south of Pittsburgh. On analog, he is able to receive 11 channels. When he switched over to digital, he was able to receive exactly 0... Well like you said that won't be addressed by putting off the transition. However, most people can get the same OTA channels by getting the barest minimum cable TV or satellite package.
I am sure the FCC might also mandate other workaround (maybe repeater antennas?) to address this. But none of this will happen if we keep punting.
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Jahntassa
What, I can have feathers
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Conway, SC
| And again... Once again. Why?
This is the same thing as giving a procrastinator a task and never setting a deadline. It will simply never get done.
And, once again, unless there is a new plan on how to get the 'most vulnerable citizens' up to speed, the delay is more than pointless, it is wasteful.
Companies are waiting on that spectrum to become available. They're losing money.
The best way to make the people who aren't aware (oh, i'm sure they're aware, simply not doing anything about it) is to force their hand. | |
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Go Hawks Go
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join:2003-01-22
Algonquin, IL
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| Re: And again... said by Jahntassa :The best way to make the people who aren't aware (oh, i'm sure they're aware, simply not doing anything about it) is to force their hand. I totally agree with that. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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| They're only waiting for it to test maybe a 5 cities at the most and only open to their employees.
if i'm not mistaken equipment isnt even available yet for the 700Mhz band for VZW or AT$T.
So what would they do with it until then? Nothing but sit on it like they do everything else.
Even VZ said they wouldn't be doing anything until Q2 of 2009 they can wait a few months longer if they plan on waiting that long.
But maybe they should expand their DSL network or FiOS and they wouldn't to wait. | |
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join:2005-12-07
Ligonier, IN | Re: And again... We already have WiMAX gear ordered for our 700 spectrum and it will be installed in Feb. Not just AT&T and Verizon bought that spectrum. Some of us intend to use it. | |
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N O Y B
St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
| Where's The CHANGE?Vast majority of those who have not done anything by now are not going to in the next 4 months either. So for a small hand full of people who have had plenty of opportunity we are going to impact the masses. If this is Obama's idea of change, I DO NOT LIKE IT HIS CHANGE!
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Venice, CA
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| The confused and unprepared? From the link: "Delay helps Americans who remain confused and unprepared".
No, a delay will just ensure that people will be confused and unprepared after June 12 instead of after February 17. If we switch on February 17, hopefully things have settled down by June 12 instead of by the end of the year. | |
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join:2007-07-20
Sachse, TX
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| Government is not business minded. If they were smart they would use an instant rebate program instead of offering free coupons. Everyone wants a coupon for something free, regardless if they need it or not. If you implement a rebate program in which the wait time is eliminated, it will alleviate a lot of the erroneous requests. | |
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knightmb
Everybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN
·AT&T DSL Service
| Your guys/gals are harsh Yeah, it's another delay. But why is everyone so sure that everything is ready to go? Yes, there will always be those that are not or ever will be ready.
If the people in charge of the switch over think there is a problem that needs to wait, who here knows more than they do and is willing to share with the rest of us. Anything beyond anecdotal accounts of "works fine for me"?
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St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
| Re: Your guys/gals are harshThe they you speak of is Obama. Those tasked with this project say go.
The vast majority of those who are not ready are those you speak of who will never be ready. If we continue to delay for them, we will never switch over.
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Sussex, NJ
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| Re: Your guys/gals are harsh said by N O Y B :The they you speak of is Obama. Those tasked with this project say go. The vast majority of those who are not ready are those you speak of who will never be ready. If we continue to delay for them, we will never switch over. Because of channel changes there will be coverage changes. But the nice thing is that those who won't served by off air antennas can get their TV from cable and satellite.
There are some people who think that "analog TV works just fine" or that "we don't need no fancy HDTV" who will always be sticks in the mud holding back progress.
Obama is not an engineer and he is not qualified to say whether or not DTV is ready. He should just let it go already.
Also, the only way we are going to know where DTV needs improvement is to actually do the switch where some of the stations can return to VHF and also boost power. | |
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join:2000-07-11
Youngsville, NC
| said by knightmb :Yeah, it's another delay. But why is everyone so sure that everything is ready to go? Yes, there will always be those that are not or ever will be ready. If the people in charge of the switch over think there is a problem that needs to wait, who here knows more than they do and is willing to share with the rest of us. Anything beyond anecdotal accounts of "works fine for me"? You can have it over and done with Feb 17, or you can push it back until next year - you're still going to have some people "not prepared". Just get it over with. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by knightmb :Yeah, it's another delay. But why is everyone so sure that everything is ready to go? Yes, there will always be those that are not or ever will be ready. If the people in charge of the switch over think there is a problem that needs to wait, who here knows more than they do and is willing to share with the rest of us. Anything beyond anecdotal accounts of "works fine for me"? the people in charge are saying they ARE ready. | |
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AVonGauss
Premium,MVM
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL
| Thoughts... While I believe Jay Rockefeller has good intentions, I believe moving the transition date would be a mistake and only cause more confusion and pain for people. Four months will not result in increased preparedness or awareness by those consumers who are still not ready.
At this stage of the game, the only thing that might make sense is to break the transition up in to regions and do one region each week for four to five weeks rather than the entire country on one day. | |
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PGHammer
join:2003-06-09
Accokeek, MD
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| Re: Thoughts... Sen. Rockefeller (and the Louisiana Senatorial delegation that originally led the charge pushing for a delay) both have rather large and influential (in their home states) broadcasters that are being VERY Pharonic in their lack of preparation for the switchover (in the case of WV, it's the translator-station operators, especially those that make their living importing distant stations, primarily from Washington, DC and Pittsburgh). Translator stations, unlike the LP compadres, are NOT immune to the switchover, so it's not exactly a small expense for them; however, it's not the FCC's fault that these broadcasters remain on the Royal Barge.
Enough already. | |
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PGHammer
join:2003-06-09
Accokeek, MD
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| Re: Thoughts... In the case of WV, the translator-stations are higher-powered due to terrain, and, like other non-LP stations, not immune to the transition; worse, they also occupy spectrum that was auctioned off for other uses. Throw in that the translator-stations are mostly NOT owned by the same companies that provide the source of the original signals (and that the translator stations now have digital, not analog, signal to re-transmit) and you have a possible trainwreck, according to the Senator (and former governor).
So you have two groups of station owners - one saying NOT to delay, and one welcoming a delay. | |
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join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
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| Ludicrous [sarc]He's the incoming Chairman of the Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation. He's got to make his mark somehow. Give him a break.  [/sarc]
Let the rest of the Senate, and the House, too, demonstrate a grasp of the dynamics involved here. If people are not prepared now, most of them will not be prepared in June.
The only positive thing I've heard about any of the reasons to delay, is if someone decides they need an antenna upgrade to pick up the signal in a fringe area, they should do it in warmer weather. February is not a good time to be on a roof.
Otherwise, all this is a last-ditch effort to try to discredit an outgoing administration to show how "forward-thinking" the incoming one is.
Both incoming and outgoing still have a way to go to earn my total respect. I call it politics as usual.  | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: Ludicrous said by birdfeedr :The only positive thing I've heard about any of the reasons to delay, is if someone decides they need an antenna upgrade to pick up the signal in a fringe area, they should do it in warmer weather. February is not a good time to be on a roof. what was stopping these people from replacing their antennas back before tehe weather got cold? | |
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agilityman00
Dogs rule
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join:2004-12-19
Carmel, NY | Enough already I have seen the infomercials on the transition a million times already. If some people haven't taken steps by now, they won't in 3 months. Can we get this over with already! | |
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sharksfan3
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Poughkeepsie, NY | $10 says... AT&T and VZW are currently exploring their legal options and are in the process drafting some legalese filled documents rebutting this development. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Re: $10 says... And the question that should be asked of them is "are you ready to use the spectrum on Feb. 18th? And if the answer is no then they should be told tough shit. | |
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join:2006-07-15
Cordova, TN
| Re: $10 says... If you buy a new truck because you are going to move in 3 months, the dealership can't say you can't have it now because you aren't ready to use it.
Doesn't work that way.
The people who purchased this spectrum already have too much invested to wait to start R&D on it. | |
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| Re: $10 says... Any analog television signal over 704 MHz (channel 52) could be required to shut down or be put on secondary status, which would allow the white knights at AT&T and Verizon to ride in and save us from the evils of bad wireless connectivity. The core television band (2-52) has no effect on "[t]he people who purchased this spectrum already have too much invested to wait". In fact, you can bet even the stations stuck on 53-69 for now have no effect. There is plenty of space up there for tests with analog TV still running.
And I'll take that $10 bet.
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join:2005-12-07
Ligonier, IN
| Again I say, not just Verizon and AT&T purchased the spectrum. We and many other smaller ISP's will be ready on Feb 18th. What about our customers? What about the money we spent? We purchased tower equipment and spectrum. Now, we've got to figure out if we should buy client radios yet. No reason to do it if we can't use them for five more months....... | |
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join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
1 edit | Generational Interaction Stimulus Package (GISP)"Technically their kids and grandkids will get hit the hardest, given they'll probably be the ones getting the frantic phone calls,..."
Where is the downside it that statement. It is a good way to stimulate generational interaction/involvment. It is good for kids and grandkids to be invovled with helping their parents and grandparents.
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JSRoman
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Callahan, FL
| Should not happen Local station have been running PSAs about this for months losing revenue from not running ads in there place. If delayed then they will have to run new PSAs informing folks about the delay thus losing more revenue since no ads will be running in the spots.
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Swayzee, IN
|  Re: Should not happen
My guess would be that the TV stations will have more of a say than the poor or ATT/Verizon.
A. They really don't care about the poor.
B. ATT/Verizon won't be ready to launch anything on that spectrum for years. If anything it helps them because the little guys ready to go will lose however many months of a jump on the competition. I guarantee you Verizon gets a build out extension regardless. | |
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hernang7542
Helpless In The Face Of Your Beauty
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join:2001-04-25
Wilmington, DE
clubs: | Foolishness! This has been in the works for at least 10 years and more. I remember talking about this with co-workers in 1998. If you haven't made the switch by now, you're not going to. | |
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@windstream.net
| Live from DADDIES basement OK I'm gonna OBAMA this, All you gotta do is split the country in half shut off half the channels to the east and the other half to the west, vz & att can test and build-out lte in the half of the country that has vacated 700 spectrum. Frontier and qualquam can test & roll-out wireless dtv and mediaflow in whatever half they have vacated spectrum. People will now have only half their channels and have an incentive to buy the D/A box. Only 4 more days to the BIG "W" to "B.O." switch. | |
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USA
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| Who cares? Who gives a shit? They've had the boxes out for months now and they've been advertising since early last year. I'm sick of the commercials, I'm sick of the 'tests' that channels do to make sure your ready -- if your not ready then so be it. Go buy a damn convertor box or loose your damn tv. The "poor" might get out and get a job instead of sitting and watching tv all day if they loose their channels.
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| Re: Who cares? said by icex _ : They've had the boxes out for months now The boxes have been out for *years* actually.
said by icex _ : I'm sick of the 'tests' that channels do to make sure your ready Why are you seeing these tests ? How many stations aren't already broadcasting in digital today ? They don't run these tests on their digital channels, only the analog ones. Admittedly, most stations do seem to run the crawl on all of their stations. | |
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clubs: | Re: Who cares? New's channels and such. I have satalite so I don't have to worry about it, but they run these tests weekly anyway for some reason. | |
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| what do they say the richer gets richer the poor gets poor and the middle class gets screwed the economy is not going to get better anytime soon so if the poor wanted to get a converter box now or later they still would not be able to afford it anyways so there better off just doing the switch. | |
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| said by icex _ :The "poor" might get out and get a job instead of sitting and watching tv all day if they loose their channels. What Jobs would those be? This country and economy is shedding jobs at an alarming rate. The ignorance in this thread makes me embarrassed to be an american
That said, I agree that delaying the transition will change nothing. | |
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| First of all I agree that the switch was made note of years ago and people should have been ready, and some were. The problem is when you make $35,000 or less a year your decisions are limited, do I eat, pay rent, or buy a converter box this month. The people you talk about when you speak of rims, cars, and sneakers, are young kids who may be involved in the underground economy. What I am sick of is a bunch of pampered candy @$$ punks who think that people who do not make wages above the poverty line (both white and black) are not worthy of the respect that one human pays to another. What proves that you are candy asses is the way you code your speech so no one can see that you are also racist, remember there are more poor whites in this country then there are poor blacks and that the crimes that are in the inner city are also in those backwoods places but you don't hear as much about those (I wonder why?) I hope that you never have to reap the rewards of your viewpoint about people who are not as fortunate as yourselves.
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netgear
Restless Native
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join:1999-12-20
Arlington, TX
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| Just the beginning... ...much more bull-crap to come. What a freakin' pool of fools. He hasn't even taken office.
To think if that crap goes through we'll have to deal with another round of those idiotic "can you see this" public service announcements. Well that's just so special. That will be a joy.
Way to go Mr. Obama. You really know how to hit the ground running on all the vitally important issues.
Phfffft. | |
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slashman
Don't do it . ..
Premium
join:2003-10-01
Batavia, IL
| Sigh Many years, millions of commercials, and hundreds of millions of dollars to pave the way and we get the cry baby story about "vulnerable citizens" that are not ready.
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Millenniumle
join:2007-11-11
Fredonia, NY
| ... Let the government sit around with their finger in their butt and the broadcasters shut down their analog transmissions on their own. Get on with it already!!
Thanks to the transition I no longer have a cable bill. It would be nice to see even more sub-channels added once the analog signals get dumped. | |
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join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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| Re: Stations can shut off analog NOW said by Hall :It's my understanding that TV stations can shut down their analog transmitters anytime now that we're within the 90-day window of the Feb 17th cut-off. They can do this without FCC approval too. Prior to 90 days of the cut-off, they had to get the okay from the FCC. It would be nice if the stations shut-down their analog feeds NOW or before any change gets passed. Actually they can't. They have to make filings with the FCC before they shut it off. | |
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join:2007-07-12
Sterling, VA
| Re: Stations can shut off analog NOW said by Eat Me :said by Hall :It's my understanding that TV stations can shut down their analog transmitters anytime now that we're within the 90-day window of the Feb 17th cut-off. They can do this without FCC approval too. Prior to 90 days of the cut-off, they had to get the okay from the FCC. It would be nice if the stations shut-down their analog feeds NOW or before any change gets passed. Actually they can't. They have to make filings with the FCC before they shut it off. Yes, the stations have to file a STA to shut off early, but with only 30 days notice now required to the FCC and for public notices. We are now 32 days from the February 17 shutdown date. The exception is if there is a hardware failure and there have been a number of those as aging analog transmitters, wave guides or antennas, nursed along in recent years to keep in service until February 17 have failed.
The reality is that with the Hawaii shutdown, there are now around 170 full power stations that have shut down analog broadcasting. Close to 10% of all full power stations. | |
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