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Politicians(NY attny genl a prime example) will resurrect this once again. The only question is how they will rewrite it to meet constitutional muster. Failing that, they will just blackmail the ISPs like NY has done already.
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1 edit | Good riddance to both COPA and the BUSH!
Only nine hundred and ninety-nine more Bush bad ideas to go...unless Cuomo decides to resurrect every last one of them. What an asshole he is turning out to be!
When even the conservative Republican SCOTUS rejects your grand plan for censorship, it is time to give it up... |
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It never ceases to amaze me as a culture we have no problem with advertisers using sex to sell everything imaginable (which I personally think is obscene) but we fear exposure to images of human anatomy will damage kids for life.
As a progressive I believe government has a right and duty to protect citizens. But these feel good "what about the children" laws passed by Congress make me sick. The problem is there is absolutely no downside to Congress for passing these types of bills. That falls to the poor souls who have to implement them: ISPs, schools and libraries.
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said by TKJunkMail  :The only question is how they will rewrite it to meet constitutional muster. Can't be done. |
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said by TKJunkMail :Politicians(NY attny genl a prime example) will resurrect this once again. The only question is how they will rewrite it to meet constitutional muster. Things have changed since 1998. Thus the law won't even be brought back up in anywhere near the form it was written in. any new law will suffer the same fate as this one be in court for YEARS. Bedsides now the the dems control everything we're pretty much safe from "nanny" laws for at least 4 years. If parents would be parents then they wouldn't have to worry about little Timmy seeing boobies. |
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said by tschmidt :As a progressive I believe government has a right and duty to protect citizens. But these feel good "what about the children" laws passed by Congress make me sick. I have to agree Tom. The last time I checked, it was the parents responsibility to raise a child, not the governments. The problem is, we're a society of lazy-ass people ... Obama even touched upon that in his inauguration speech. Too many people would rather legislate the protection of their children than to actually sit them down and tell them the consequences of certain actions, or that the stork doesn't really bring babies. |
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said by BF69 :Bedsides now the the dems control everything we're pretty much safe from "nanny" laws for at least 4 years. Clinton(a Dem) signed this in to law. NY Attny Genrl(a Dem) has blackmailed ISPs even more than the defeated law would have. Your belief that the Dems won't issue in a nanny gov't is wildly misplaced.
And I apologize in advance if what you posted was sarcasm and I didn't see it.
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said by lare :said by TKJunkMail :The only question is how they will rewrite it to meet constitutional muster. Can't be done. Not in 3 words. Care to elaborate? |
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said by TKJunkMail :said by BF69 :Bedsides now the the dems control everything we're pretty much safe from "nanny" laws for at least 4 years. Clinton(a Dem) signed this in to law. NY Attny Genrl(a Dem) has blackmailed ISPs even more than the defeated law would have. Your belief that the Dems won't issue in a nanny gov't is wildly misplaced. And I apologize in advance if what you posted was sarcasm and I didn't see it. Yeah. The Democrats definitely have a tendency to legislate the child rearing process. That's one of the aspects of the past few Democrats I can't stand. |
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said by TKJunkMail : Clinton(a Dem) signed this in to law. NY Attny Genrl(a Dem) has blackmailed ISPs even more than the defeated law would have. Your belief that the Dems won't issue in a nanny gov't is wildly misplaced. As much as I hate to agree with TK, he's right. While I despise Bush to no end, this one was one of Clinton's hairbrained ideas, along with the "clipper chip", which, thankfully never went anywhere.
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said by TKJunkMail : Your belief that the Dems won't issue in a nanny gov't is wildly misplaced. Agree- Nannism (is that a real word) is nonpartisan.
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said by Matt :Wont someone think of teh children! No, that's the neocon and Republican approach. |
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Re: This law (under a new name) will reappear
*cough* Bratz *cough*
Remember the belt on the doll that said 'Enter'? |
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said by Matt :said by lare :said by TKJunkMail :The only question is how they will rewrite it to meet constitutional muster. Can't be done. Not in 3 words. Care to elaborate? Was this law even used in any court case? I vaguely remember this, but never heard of a court case actually using this. |
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| said by k1ll3rdr4g0n :Was this law even used in any court case? I vaguely remember this, but never heard of a court case actually using this. NO. There was a temp restraining order, then a permanent restraining order before a single case was ever brought under the law.
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Re: Good riddance to both COPA and the BUSH!
said by ross :Only nine hundred and ninety-nine more Bush bad ideas to go ..and you're blaming Bush for a Clinton law ? What will you people do now that he's not around to blame ?
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| said by jay_rm :said by ross :Only nine hundred and ninety-nine more Bush bad ideas to go ..and you're blaming Bush for a Clinton law ? What will you people do now that he's not around to blame ? I'm blaming Bush for trying to resurrect this law multiple times. I'm thankful the SCOTUS has finally driven a stake through its heart. As history, if not Congress or the Justice Department, will surely do to Bush's "legacy", as well.
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Keep blaming him, of course. |
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said by ross : I'm blaming Bush for trying to resurrect this law multiple times. Exactly. It may not have originated with Bush, but he sure as hell tried to keep it going. Count me as another one who is "happy the S.O.B. is gone." |
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