i1me2ao
Premium
join:2001-03-03
TEXAS | stuck in ways
there are quite a few in this area that have absoulty no use for high speed. they simply like dial up..
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Luwigie
Premium
join:2002-06-06
East Lansing, MI
clubs:
1 edit | Build it and they will come...
How about we try a real world test? My parents still can't get broadband in any form. They would be willing to pick up DSL or cable for standard prices. Bring it on out!
As land line infrastructure is neglected and broadband prices decrease...people will move. |
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Mactron
el camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| reply to i1me2ao
Re: stuck in ways
Just as there are those who chose not to drive, watch TV, ETC. There are those who just don't care about the Internet or High speed. I'll bet the number aren't a whole lot different in any of these cases.
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Fixed income means fixed income.
IF you just need to send email to loved ones, and don't watch senior pr0n, dialup is fine. Heck, it should a be a free option (shut your mouth!). 
But for those on a fixed income (you will be one day), why spend $50/month for being a zombie-bot-victim and told you need the net for TV, news, banking, updates and thinks you can't even understand without bifocals! (I'm ranting but making the point that I hate surveys. They are biased and usually funded by someone that wants something.)
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Pizz
Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| Simply
Alot of people do not have any sort of broadband option, that is practical. I feel very bad for rural folk, who's only option is to either buy. 1. Expensive Sat broadband or 2. Capped Mobile Internet that you're lucky to get a signal.
Dialup is fine for alot of users because they've become use to it. I'll bet if DSL/Cable made it's way to their homes, they'll switch in a heartbeat.
My wife's family lives in the boonies in Montana, they have dialup and is fine with it. Because they dont download porn/music/videos/movies. Just email, visit a few sites, and sign off they go.
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tschmidt
Premium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
 ·Hollis Hosting
·Verizon Online DSL
·Fairpoint Communic..
| 10%
Whether or not you have dial up is irrelevant. What is important for broadband roll out is how many people want it. Report shows about 10% of American adults have no interest in Internet access.
According to my calculator that means 90% are interested. It is unclear what percentage of those adults have children but I have to assume some do. That will probably reduce number of households not interested in broadband.
Seems to me a market where over 90% want what you have to sell is pretty inviting.
By way of comparison in US:
TV 98%
Cell phone 82%
/tom |
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MPScan
Premium
join:2001-08-24
Boston, MA
| Cost?
On another note, these people are the ones still paying $85.00 per month for POTS service. Pretty soon, they'll fall into the category of the 9,000 people in the conutry that still rent phones from the telephone companies. 
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Hazy Arc
join:2006-04-10
Greenwood, SC | reply to Luwigie
Re: Build it and they will come...
My parents are in the same boat. They'd happily pay for broadband, but it isn't offered.  |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
·PenTeleData
 ·Future Nine Corpor..
·VOIPo
·Vonage
| No surprise
My mom thinks broadband is too expensive. She can't justify $32.95/month from bright house. I don't blame her. She doesn't make a lot of money.
Some people simply don't use the internet all that much. They log on, check email, disconnect. That's about it for their internet usage.
If I wasn't a techie type I probably wouldn't be using the internet as much as I do. |
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AlexNYC
join:2001-06-02
Edwards, CO | 10% AOL users
Those 10% are probably the AOL users who enjoy riding the "short bus" of technology. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL | reply to Mactron
Re: stuck in ways
Why should we buy processed butter when we can churn it ourselves? |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| reply to Eat Me
Re: No surprise
said by Eat Me  :My mom thinks broadband is too expensive. She can't justify $32.95/month from bright house. I don't blame her. She doesn't make a lot of money. Some people simply don't use the internet all that much. They log on, check email, disconnect. That's about it for their internet usage. If I wasn't a techie type I probably wouldn't be using the internet as much as I do. What does she pay for dialup? I know AT&T and I think also Verizon have a DSL plan for $14-$19/mo. for something like 768/128. |
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swallx
@eerprogramming.com | Id get it in a heartbeat
I pay 80 bucks a month for Sat internet, I would switch to cable or DSL in a heart beat. |
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
| reply to AlexNYC
Re: 10% AOL users
No - they just don't have the need. I don't understand why this is hard to comprehend - I really don't.
Be just as correct for me to say that 100% of those who think that 10% who don't need broadband are clueless... some are - some aren't.
Plenty of folks don't have a need or the money - not everyone needs TV, cable, cars, cell phones, GPS units, digital cameras and on... |
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Chuckles
Premium
join:2006-03-04
Saint Paul, MN | CONNECT 9600
They're addicted to the screaching sound of the modem. |
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AlexNYC
join:2001-06-02
Edwards, CO
|  reply to CylonRed
Re: 10% AOL users
I'm sure I can figure out a way to wipe my ass without toilet paper, but why would I?
Note that the original article said there is absolutely nothing that could make them switch to a faster connection.
That means that even if it was given to them for FREE they still wouldn't take it It's like saying that you would still rather have a model T Ford even if they give you a new one for free, because they DON'T HAVE THE NEED.
They DO have the need they are just to ignorant to know it. |
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
| Wow - what massive assumptions. I know I have no need for heated seats in my car - even if they are free. I have ZERO need or want to have to maintain something else in my car that I do not want/need.
Why should someone assume that I want/need it even if it is 'free'? As soon as you need to take time to deal with any problem on the unneeded item - it is no longer 'free'.
Sorry - but I think most people have the ability to know if something is a want or need and act accordingly - even if it is free. To state that they must be ignorant, is plain stupidity on your part. |
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toplevelpot
yes it is, no I don't share
join:2008-04-19
Los Angeles, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
·DSL EXTREME
| The providers play games ppl don't wanna play:
Yesterday I was helping sum1 with dial-up. They informed me they could not get the att $14.99 special. I jumped on the dsl went to the site and found when you click on the "14.99" link it ultimately takes you to two plan offerings, neither of which is the 14.99 one. Standard was $20, preferred was $30.
HEY ATT, YOU KEEP SCREWING UP AND NO ONE WILL BE SORRY TO SEE YOU FALL!
Note, Dslextreme is probably getting a new customer, and dial-up is one step closer to obscurity.
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bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| Broadband might end up cheaper.
I have not had dial up since Covad DSL came here in the mid 90's. Then I paid monthly $125 for 2 phone lines and whatever it was $30 or so for DSL. Total $155.
Now I pay monthly $45 for FIOS plus $30 each for 2 VIOP lines. Total $105.
Not to mention Covad DSL was 300 something K I think and now I have 2meg /10 meg.
If you hop on the internet for 10 minutes to get email it might be worth it to have dial up for $15 a month. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| reply to Rob
Re: No surprise
probably less than that. You can get free Juno or NetZero for 10hours a month if you just log on send a few emails and log off. Netzero can be had for $10. Some providers off 20 hours for $6.95 still not a bad deal if you only check emails or pay bills a few times a month.
broadband will never be that cheap. |
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