 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | The red hand This sounds like it'll help people catch Comcast, At&a, Ect redhanded
I wonder does it have a way to export the data it colects for use in showing the proof to people or just run test and look? |
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| More bandwidth I think they could use some more bandwidth. Hard to get to the tools and made it to the main site only.
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| ... The ISPs have to be hating this. In my opinion it is a good idea and I'm glad a company like Google is behind it
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 hullboyPremium
join:2000-12-21
Oakland, CA | love/hate Comcast is going to hate this... and I'm gonna love it!
Can't wait to try this out at home tonight.
The measurementlab.net website is not responding at the moment. So it seems as if many people are just as eager as me to try this suite of tools. I'm glad someone is looking out for the end-user (even if it's advertising related).
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 POBRes Firma Mitescere NescitPremium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA | reply to DarkLogix
Re: The red hand said by DarkLogix:This sounds like it'll help people catch Comcast, At&a, Ect redhanded And just what makes you think Comcrap et al. is quaking in their boots? The first time they were caught redhanded, all they received was a slap on the wrist. Sure, they also generated a fair amount of negative PR, but as Comcrap continues to demonstrate time after time, they really don't give 2 shits about bad PR because they'll just hire some journalistic schnook like Dan Roth from a reputable publication to write a feel good article to give weak minded subscribers the warm fuzzies.
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DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | I don't think their quaking but this could be a good tool to use when people think they're being effected
Its the kind of tool that would be nice to have on this site actualy |
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 LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5
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Re: More bandwidth |
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LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5
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Dupe post |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to DarkLogix
Re: The red hand The vast majority of users could CURRENTLY care less.
Those that are in the industry - techs/geeks/devlopers and those that run the networks and/or pay for it are the ones that will care.
TWC doesn't appear to be throttled
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There's no indication that your ISP rate limits your BitTorrent uploads. In our tests a TCP upload achieved minimal 715 Kbps while a BitTorrent upload achieved maximal 951 Kbps. You can find details here.
* The BitTorrent download worked. Our tool was successful in downloading data using the BitTorrent protocol.
* There's no indication that your ISP rate limits your BitTorrent downloads.
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swarto112Premium
join:2004-02-17
Brookfield, WI | overloaded The sites are overloaded now the word is out but the besdt tools are not available yet. The others are already available. |
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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2
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| PlanetLab makes for bad source tests I've actually had a conversation about the problems with using PlanetLab infrastructure for testing discrimination recently. The Planetlab network is comprised of servers deep within University networks. A nice list of sites participating in Planetlab can be readily found here: » www.planet-lab.org/db/pub/sites.php My dedicated boxes get polled by planet labs servers all the time; I grabbed a few from the logs that were obvious choices: planetlab.kalgan.csail.mit.edu planet1.cs.rochester.edu planet1.cs.ucsb.edu planet1.scs.cs.nyu.edu planetlab-1.ece.iastate.edu Traceroute to those servers and you will notice they are far beyond the border routers of the Unversity. Why is that significant? Colleges throttle traffic they believe to be non-critical to academic purposes -- they're open about doing so. Nearly every campus has rate limiting in place to ensure academic network uses are not impacted by recreational traffic. PlanetLab will undoubtedly find many cases of traffic prioritization, but it will most often occur on the network their test boxes are directly attached to. This testing is no more valid than the tests performed by the researchers at the University of Colorado where they found "evidence" of ISP interference by DoSing their own campus network's NAT gateway. |
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:6 | reply to Billa9b0ng
Re: ... said by Billa9b0ng:The ISPs have to be hating this. That was my first impression, but the reality is that they're broadband consumers as well -- of backbone companies -- any of which could be cheating them in secret.
This will help keep everyone honest. ISPs, in fact, ought to donate equipment/money/bandwidth/rackspace for their own nodes.
This is very, very, very good for the net.
-- Robb (emotionally whipsawed between Cox and M-Lab!)
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| Proof once and for all While many people are looking at this as a "gotcha Comcast", I expect they are looking at it as "bring it on" to prove that they are not throttling based on any applications or services.
The Comcast management system in place is just a congestion management which prioritized average users over hogs in real time regardless of application.
I for one like the fact that my neighbors kid downloading tons of games and blue ray DVDs 7x24 gets a lower priority than my Vonage call without having to use DPI (just based on bandwidth usage). And when his parent tells him to stop because his VPN isn't fast, the system automatically prioritizes the traffic back.
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Re: The red hand I've got a lot of hotels on my network with firewalls that do traffic shaping. Do I get a bad rap when one of their guests runs this behind their network where the customer (hotel)is shaping traffic and not the ISP? |
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| Mostly USA Anyone notice that the whole world is mostly black except for the USA, specifically the North East and California? |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to funchords
Re: ... Robb, why do you feel that this is "very, very, very good" for the net? Don't get me wrong, I don't see it as bad, I just don't see any huge benefit. |
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Re: Mostly USA I thought it was mostly blue |
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| Net Neutrality Along with the recent interim appointment of Michael Copps as FCC chairman, this is really good news for Internet users. Remember, the commercial Internet was created by the Federal Government with the High Speed Computing and Communications Act of 1991. The commercial Internet was owned and operated by the Federal Government under the auspices of the National Science Foundation. In 1993 the NSF turned over the Internet to the telcos with the proviso that it be operated for the common good. If the telcos are reneging on this deal, then the time is right for the US Govt to take back control of the Internet and operate it as a public utility for the common good. |
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funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:6 | reply to openbox9
Re: ... said by openbox9:Robb, why do you feel that this is "very, very, very good" for the net? Don't get me wrong, I don't see it as bad, I just don't see any huge benefit. Because it sheds light where it is very difficult to see, and encourages honest businesses to stay honest.
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but I see the ISPs burying language deeper into the ToS and AUP as the average consumer gets smarter about what s/he thinks they're paying for. Oh well, time will tell. |
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