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Comments on news posted 2009-01-29 10:16:30: This Saturday morning at 12:01 am, Fairpoint Communications will finally take full control of the 1.6 million lines they purchased from Verizon for $2.3 billion last year. ..

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SteveCon
IBEW 2222 Boston, MA
Premium
join:2004-09-02
Burlington, MA
·Verizon FIOS

Hold on to your hat..

This deal was just wrong from the "get go" and it's been a bumpy ride the whole way. I have suspicions that the worst is not behind us yet. Breaking promises to customers (and employees for that matter) at this stage of the game is not the direction Fairpoint should be headed, as is only erodes confidence.
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cyclone_z

join:2006-06-19
Ames, IA
it says mississippi not minnesota in the linked article

it says mississippi not minnesota in the linked article


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

Are Things Resolved?

quote:
... unions were concerned that the telco wouldn't keep its promise to improve service, add jobs and broaden access to high speed internet. ... The company laid off 56 employees who worked on their legacy networks, though they hired almost 1,000 for the New England transition.
Well there were some issues with 911, but if Fairpoint expanded high speed internet service, then I would say there's no real problem given that "they hired almost 1,000 ..."
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shit

join:2003-07-14
Skowhegan, ME
reply to SteveCon
Re: Hold on to your hat..

Good thing I have VOIP from the cable company!


tschmidt
Premium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
·Hollis Hosting
·Verizon Online DSL
·Fairpoint Communic..

reply to SteveCon
As a residential customer in Southern NH so far things have been fine. FairPoint upgraded my DSL to 3000/768 where Verizon would not due to distance. Been stable at new speed so I'm a happy camper. Phone service is fine.

A friend works for FairPoint. At first was not happy being transferred from Verizon so so far things are working out.

The brochure they sent out about changing domain name for Verizon.net to MyFairpoint.net could have been worded a little better. It would have been nice if the MyfairPoint.net portal at least had a dummy web page instead of Page not found message.

Hope the transfer goes smoothly so they can focus on rolling out DSL to the boonies as promised. Once that is done hopefully they will be able to raise the Capital needed to finish deploying FTTP begun by Verizon. But I have no illusions that is going to happen any time soon.

/tom

Dolgan
Premium
join:2005-10-01
Sun Prairie, WI
Just like Hawaiiam Telecom

Fairpoint will end up like Hawaiian Tel, who is on the verge of bankruptcy within 2 years of taking over from Verizon. The deals were great for Verizon and its shareholders...just not working out too well for the purchasers {so far}.

Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
Unless Congress

votes to delay it until June 12


otter

@rr.com

1000 New Jobs???

Good grief - sorry about math in last post - here's how it should have read.
Fairpoint started with 900 employees last year - bought 3000 from Verizon - claim to have hired 1000 new folks - which would bring the total to 4900 as of today. Their website says they have about 3975 employees - which is ABOUT 1000 off. They say they are looking for 600 more employees - (mostly temps by the by) - so maybe they are counting as of yet unhired employees in the 1000 figure. Regardless - if Foulpoint speaks or prints - they are distorting something somewhere. I have watched this company for 10 years now - and have yet to see them come near telling the truth.


SteveCon
IBEW 2222 Boston, MA
Premium
join:2004-09-02
Burlington, MA
reply to pnh102
Re: Are Things Resolved?

So it's just a "little lie" and that makes it ok?? How big does the number have to grow before you're outraged?


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

said by SteveCon See Profile :

So it's just a "little lie" and that makes it ok?? How big does the number have to grow before you're outraged?
Where was the lie?
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tileguy
Premium
join:2007-08-09
Derry, NH

reply to tschmidt
Re: Hold on to your hat..

Also a residential customer in NH and my FIOS speed was dropped from 20/2 to 15/2 with no price change. Was really hoping for TV but thats not happening............
All in all I'm lucky to have the fiber but was hoping for a bit more. Now we'll most likely see less with Fairpoint.


SteveCon
IBEW 2222 Boston, MA
Premium
join:2004-09-02
Burlington, MA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to pnh102
Re: Are Things Resolved?

The one where they told everyone that would listen that they'd be hiring (no mention of layoffs). You maintained that the 1000 hires (your numbers) negates the 56 jobs lost. They are lying by omission.

How many jobs lost would make a difference, 100? 200? 1000?


karlmarx

join:2006-09-18
iraq
·Fairpoint Communic..

reply to otter
Re: 1000 New Jobs???

Of course they are lying. I just checked their web site, and they have 'maybe' 20 positions open. I know for a FACT they have hired less than 200 new people, and the vast majority of them are low level help desk. Fairpoint just doesn't have the capital to expand, they have a huge amount of debt, and they have a VERY expensive footprint to cover. No wonder verizon wanted to bail on the entire thing. Fairpoint, like Hawaii telelcom, is going to be broke within 2 years. God help us all, especially those of us who have FIOS.
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cmaenginsb
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA

reply to SteveCon
Re: Are Things Resolved?

said by SteveCon See Profile :

The one where they told everyone that would listen that they'd be hiring (no mention of layoffs). You maintained that the 1000 hires (your numbers) negates the 56 jobs lost. They are lying by omission.

How many jobs lost would make a difference, 100? 200? 1000?
Actually the 1000 "new" jobs were not "his numbers", they come from the last line of the posting.

Assuming the 1000 "new" jobs were actually created then 1000-56= 944. As to lying by omission maybe that only appears to be true by the same union logic coming from the linked WCAX article. The "dozens" add up to 34 jobs and the jobs were never done by the union or within Verizon in the first place. The end result, nothing changes but a net positive of 944 jobs (if you believe they added 1000 jobs which I don't based on the numbers from otter below).

Personally I don't know why the legacy folks weren't given the opportunity to crosstrain and keep their jobs, unless the pay between what they were getting and what they would get given their experience in the other department would be less.


hawk82

join:2001-04-26
Oakland, ME
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable

back to work soon I hope

A CLEC I do contract work for has had all of their workorders put into Fairpoint on hold while this transition goes on. So I haven't had any new installs in a couple weeks. Would be nice to get back to work, although I'll most likely get dumped on with a ton of work to get caught back up.

Ytsejamer1

join:2008-01-18
Somersworth, NH

reply to tileguy
Re: Hold on to your hat..

b*stard...i would love to have any fiber connection available. Unfortunately I'm stuck without...and DSL around here isn't reliable enough according to some of my neighbors. they indicate it's slower than advertised.

I doubt there will be any improvements and we'll have to wait until who knows when... *sigh*

qworster

join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA

3 edits
It's NOT a GREATport, not a Goodport....

Only a Fairport....

and they'll probably wind up a Poorport...

I gusss that about says it all, doesn't it?


cgny09

@taconic.net

fairpoint sucks.

fairpoint is a company that doesnt care about its customers and lies about everything they do. they told my mom that our dsl would remain active even though we were cancelling our home phone [moving to cell only] and it would be $5 more per month. this was no big deal. two weeks after we ported the home number, the dsl stops working. they shut our dsl off! then they realized the mistake and it took them more then a week to get it back on b/c they had unplugged our line from the dsl port in the central office. then the lady tells us that the price of dsl only is $75.00 for 768/256. wtf??? its only because verizon put cell towers here and everyone is going cell only so they are jacking dsl up so that everyone keeps their home phone.

fairpoint will go bankrupt and verizon will buy them out. it was all in verizons big plans of things. [verizon sells new england landlines to fairpoint, fairpoint expands dsl coverage & invests millions, fairpoint goes bankrupt, verizon buys fairpoint for pennies on the dollar.] VZ is not dumb.

charter is also going to go bankrupt. they are going to be bought by time warner. i live in a charter service area. there has been an increasing # of time warner trucks here [time warner doesnt serve any town near me, closest town is 20 miles away.] i asked the tw guy why he was checking the cable lines out in a charter service area [we're just looking at some things.] which hints to me that time warner is looking to buy charter and they are inspecting the cable network. idk but it seems like thats the case.

crazyandy

join:2009-02-01
Walpole, MA

Fairpoint CANNOT be worse then verizon

Since Verizon owns a large piece of fairpoint, you cannot expect good service, quality technicians or reliable DSL or phone service. i am a masshole, and see how verizon works down here. how many techs out there have been waiting for a verizon tech on a site, and had to go wake him up in his truck? even for my home, i ordered fios, was told it would take 3 weeks. when the tech showed up, he sat in his truck for an hour, then left. never returned. after calling and complaining to verizon, they said the next availability was in 3 more weeks. so i cancelled my dsl and voice service from them. they decided to keep charging me for 6 more months. at tooks months to get half the money back. I dont see how it would be possible fairpoint can be any worse. Verizon workers may be they laziest people i have ever worked with. If fairpoint being a smaller company operates anything like verizon, they will not be in business long.
Good luck to you all.


ed

@myfairpoint.net

fairpoint is clueless

we are two days into the Fairpoint "transition" in Maine
I have lost email service,cant contact anyone who knows anything and Fairpoint doesnt answer any phone calls

wait till I do get someone on the phone
they can have my hard line and there shitty DSL
I have had enough
VONAGE IS THE ANSWER

I hope they go out of business
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