major marco
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
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| Told you so
The Times also notes that while network neutrality language is tied to the $9 billion in grants, the tax credits come with no such restrictions. Ha. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | FTTH
Hopefully it will encourage a lot of providers, both cable and telco to deploy FTTH.
I don't think it will be reality though, but we will see.
Hey, who knows it might just get Embarq off their butt here. |
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soothsayer15
join:2002-03-01
Irving, TX
| Just because they "planned to do" upgrades doesn't mean they would have. Surprising from this site sine there is so much talk about cherry picking. In this economy, plans mean squat. Wasn't there a story just the other day about AT&T slowing down their U-Verse roll out.
The title was probably more to get the chickens clucking than anything else since Verizon is a regional provider and the stimulus is national. That's the whole point of a stimulus, to give companies the incentive to upgrade and/or expand. Given the number of people on this site who want their providers to upgrade service in their area, I don't see why this would be a negative. If cable companies upgrade their service , even better. Competition benefits the consumer. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR | Fine with me...
If a 10% tax credit gooses Verizon into agreeing to sell DSL in my neighborhood, that's fine with me ... |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: Told you so
said by major marco  :The Times also notes that while network neutrality language is tied to the $9 billion in grants, the tax credits come with no such restrictions. Ha. The Senate and House bills differ. When this goes to a House/Senate conference committee to hash out differences, who knows what will still remain in the final bill. It ain't over til the fat lady sings.
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blackriders
join:2005-01-16
Bronx, NY | High speed
Does this mean we'll finally be able to compete with South Korea and Japan.
I would love to have 50/50 or 100/100 for what i'm paying with cablevision right now. 30/5 So I can't really complain |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
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| 100/20 would be awesome. Wouldn't need to host servers in a datacenter; could do all that stuff at home, albeit with more risk of power failure etc. I suppose. Then again, no colo costs  |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | DOCSIS and Fiber
Unfortunately for cable providers, they'll have to do upstream channel bonding and 4-channel downstream bonding to get to 100/20 speeds. Verizon on the other hand can use existing GPON infrastructure. Epic fiber win. |
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DrModem
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join:2006-10-19
USA | Well that's the CableCos fault for being slow, greedy and stupid isn't it? |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY | hmm
question would cablevision get any of this money? Are any parts of there service area considered rural?
i can see cablevision easily offering a say 100/20 tier for $100 once they complete their docsis 3 trials |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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Re: High speed
said by iansltx :100/20 would be awesome. Wouldn't need to host servers in a datacenter; could do all that stuff at home, albeit with more risk of power failure etc. I suppose. Then again, no colo costs Most residential ISPs forbid servers.
OOL allows it with boost but they also restrict its use. For example, you cannot host forums on an OOL boost connection. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | reply to iansltx
Re: DOCSIS and Fiber
Wow, I see the fibre fanboi's are quick on the draw. |
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Swallx
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| I will be happy to get any Broadband what so ever.
I live in ohio, I live less than 3 miles from the center of a larger town, and cant even get decent telephone service from verizon, let alone broadband. I dont live in town, but I certainly dont live in the boondocks either..
I used to live 30 mins from the closest town with more than 5000 people, and in mountainous area and had broadband via AT&T..
as far as I am concerned Verizon is the Devil  0 Customer support.. crappy service, uneducated service techs, the list goes on and on ..
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | reply to majortom1029
Re: hmm
Good question. I have a friend who lives in Hewitt and it's out in the sticks and he has cablevision/OOL. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | reply to soothsayer15
Re: FTTH
huh? How does that relate to my post? |
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cooldude9919
join:2000-05-29
Cape Girardeau, MO
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| Good for them
I hope verizon does get a lot of the tax credits. At least they are already spending the capital and getting fiber to the people. Everyone else is lagging behind.
Hopefully this will speed up docsis 3 deployment as suggested, because charters new 60mb is my only chance at anything really high speed around here. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | reply to Eat Me
Re: High speed
No forums? That's rather odd...
As to the hosting ban, just get biz-class service. On FiOS it's 90 more for 50/20 but that includes a static IP. Price per megabit? Cheap, especially for downloads. |
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DaveNJ
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join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | reply to cooldude9919
Re: Good for them
Just like the bailout went to bonuses and new airplanes for banks. If you think you are going to benefit from this, your are confused. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
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Re: DOCSIS and Fiber
2.4/1.2 Gbps shared with 32 users vs. 304/120 shared with many more people...as little as 50, as much as 500, usually around 250. And that's with eight channel downstream bonding and four channel upstream bonding. unfortunately coax just can't compete. |
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DaveNJ
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said by DrModem :Well that's the CableCos fault for being slow, greedy and stupid isn't it? You have the argument backward. Cablecos (mostly) are years ahead of telcos. If cable wanted to go all fiber, it would just be home to node runs. Most if not all of the cablecos are entirely fiber, except to the residents. Notice how easily cables offered phone, and look how hard it is for telcos to offer tv.
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