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join:2002-09-07
Traverse City, MI | Charter Caps We all knew it would come. | |
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Mary Esther, FL | Re: Charter Caps Be thankful there not Pay Per Byte!!
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: Charter Caps said by robl27  :Be thankful there not Pay Per Byte!! -Rob Yeah be thankful except for us that Charter has deemed not worthy of anything over 10 Mbps. I'm so glad the internet is going BACKWARDS. | |
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join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN
1 edit | Re: Charter Caps said by BF69 :said by robl27 :Be thankful there not Pay Per Byte!! -Rob Yeah be thankful except for us that Charter has deemed not worthy of anything over 10 Mbps. I'm so glad the internet is going BACKWARDS. Not all areas are like that. Mine is constantly 15.8-16.5 up and 1.8 to 2.2 down. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Actually, I'd LOVE pay-per-byte, as long as it was around 15c per GB. | |
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join:2004-02-04
South Beloit, IL
clubs: | Yeah, it was a matter of time, but I was hoping it would be a while longer. Haha. I wish I had more ISP options in my area. :-/ | |
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join:2001-03-21
Smyrna, GA | Re: Charter Caps What about us Charter Business customers? I'm paying a pretty premium for our 8x2 line. Are they going to pool me in with these limits also? If so it looks like I'm back to DSL lines.... | |
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scrummie02
Bentley
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join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA | Re: Charter Caps I wouldn't think with business customers. I have Comcast business and they don't cap me.
Keep in mind though, that's me and I'm not a Charter customer. I also don't do a lot of movie downloading either. | |
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join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
2 edits | Whoever in the 60/5 thread said charter will have no caps Dinner is served
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join:2003-04-21
STL, MO | Re: Whoever in the 60/5 thread said charter will have no caps Read the story again. There was no mention of capping on the 60Mbit plan. The 250GB cap was for "15Mbps up to 25Mbps" which would exclude 60Mbps. | |
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dispatcher21
join:2004-01-22
united state | Why cable co's and not phone? Why is it just cable companies implementing caps and not dsl providers? Is cable that more of a popular product that they have more users than dsl? | |
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join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL | Re: Why cable co's and not phone? 'cause cable is shared, phone isn't and at&t is experimenting with pay per byte (which is evil)
this is mainly about control.
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@comcast.net | Re: Why cable co's and not phone? even with att dsl the connection is shared. you just share it at a different point then with cable. with cable you share the connect until you hit the tap. | |
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join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
1 edit | Re: Why cable co's and not phone? In fact, as the cable companies push the fiber portion of the HFC closer to the curb, is this argument even relevant? Granted, it's relevant if they try to provide 1Gbps connections to every home but I agree with you that this has much more to do with watching on-line TV shows and losing ad revenue.
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@telus.net | Pay per bite aint bad if the company is on the up and up about it and allows you to buy Pre-Purchased Blocks
ex. $10/100GB/mo.
Like »www.teksavvy.com does. | |
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| Re: Why cable co's and not phone? But what good is the pay per byte if you have it throttled like techsavvy does? (Because their main supplier Bell throttles it). | |
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join:2001-02-26
antarctica
| Re: Why cable co's and not phone? said by techsuxxors :
But what good is the pay per byte if you have it throttled like techsavvy does?
If you pay per byte, and you're throttled so you cant consume as many bytes, you end up paying less.  YAY! | |
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join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | It's probably because cable companies share the last mile bandwidth and phone companies do not. | |
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join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA
| i also think it is interesting to note that the phone companies are typically tier 1 and few (any???) cable companies are tier 1, meaning bandwidth should be cheaper for telephone companies compared to cable companies. but this is basically just a guess. | |
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Cultivant son jardin
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join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO
clubs:
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»More Specifics On AT&T's Cap Plans
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join:2001-10-16
Spencer, MA
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| cuz they are looking to stop people from cutting back on their Cable TV service and use Netflix, Hulu, etc. They also avoid having to upgrade their network. We really do need regulation on the national level to keep these providers from pulling this crap. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: Why cable co's and not phone? No, stop the regulation of cable companies. Stop the cable franchises, make overbuilders offers they can't refuse. Last I checked, WOW didn't have any caps. | |
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Bentley
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join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA
| More government regulation in in private industry? No thanks. They've dipped their hands into plenty already. I agree with you though, with more and more people using VOD services and things like Hulu, Netflix and Joost, this is probably their tactic to stop people from dropping cable.
I find it interesting you talk about that because I was at a Super Bowl party on Sunday and we were talking about Hulu. Two different people because of the economy had to cut costs. They dropped Cable because Hulu and Netflix provided them with all they needed. Believe me I have thought about it.
Still, if enough people scream about lack of internet access the company will have to buck up and upgrade. I'd rather not have the government and it's troupe of pencil necked bureaucrats get involved. If cable companies start implementing caps companies that deploy fiber will pick up those disgruntled customers.
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Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | They're getting around to it, too. | |
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join:2000-05-06
Reading, PA
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1 edit | it was a matter of time.. quote:
but it also allows carriers to monetize and/or control alternative video delivery
I can guarantee that this, and only this is the reason for the caps..
nobody believed me 12-18 months ago when I was saying this was coming..
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by beerbum : quote:
but it also allows carriers to monetize and/or control alternative video delivery
I can guarantee that this, and only this is the reason for the caps.. nobody believed me 12-18 months ago when I was saying this was coming.. say goodbye to alternate (non)cable delivered video.. it's still an alternative. Now instead of having both Charter cable AND internet I'll just have the internet. I'm sure I won't be the only one doing this. At about a minimum of $750 per year loss per custoemr it will only take a small % of customers doing this for Charter to be totally fucked. I swear the people running these "technology" companies are fucking idiots. | |
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R.I.P Dadkins
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join:2001-08-07
Elk Grove, CA
·SureWest Internet
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| Re: it was a matter of time.. said by BF69 :said by beerbum : quote:
but it also allows carriers to monetize and/or control alternative video delivery
it's still an alternative. I swear the people running these "technology" companies are GREEDY fucking idiots. I added the bolded text to your perfect summation! 
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Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | that's just great
so now my choice is: get screwed by Charter for overages or sell my soul and privacy to AT&T/NSA for a slower and cheaper connection.
horrible ending to an otherwise decent day. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: that's just great And caps. Don't forget AT&T's proposed caps. | |
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Complete Your Transaction
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clubs: | Re: that's just great yes. now i have to actually research at&t's offerings. and i thought i was done with them forever. | |
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join:2008-01-23
Jewett City, CT | Re: hm Via government built pipes which, incidentally, has resulted in censorship of pro-North Korean propaganda in the country. Double edged sword to say the least. | |
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Qixotl
join:2002-02-08
New Milford, CT
| Just great Well, I was thinking about switching to Charter if/when AT&T went nationwide with their caps. Looks like I have no motivation to shift to Charter's product now (don't want to deal with their customer service any more than needed) and I will have no reservations about fully shifting to UVerse once my area's VRAD gets powered up. They lost a customer for good unless Charter sells my area's system to a provider that has no desire to cap their customers (though those are becoming few and far between). | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: Wheres TW On All Of This? Possibly...but hopefully they'll have bigger caps than they had in the trial! | |
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join:2005-06-25
North Wilkesboro, NC
| Monitoring Tools As long as they're going to have monitoring tools for users... even with my computer being online 24/7 and the occasional download, radio stream, WoW, etc, I don't see myself hitting 250GB in a month so I'm not too worried about overage fees as long as they don't lower the cap anytime soon for "15Mbps-25Mbps" connections. | |
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join:2004-05-31 | DSL Time to go back to DSL. | |
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join:2001-02-26
antarctica | Time to move to Poland, they'll never come for us there. | |
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join:2008-05-22
1 edit | 100GB/250GB is pretty reasonable 100GB/250GB seems reasonable for most users. As long as the overage charges are not out of touch with reality, say more than $.25 - $.50/GB, I see no problem with this. At least they are being honest about it and telling people before they go forward with it.
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djhexer
join:2002-10-07
Sparks, NV
| clas action lawsuit!! I think there should be some class action lawsuit about caps. Due to the fact there is NO WAY for the consumer to track data usage. YES there is programs out there butwhat about people with PS3, XBOX 360, STB that DL content etc etc. I said it BEFORE. to implement caps...
YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO TRACK USAGE ON THE 1ST POINT OF HARDWARE PERIOD!!!!
Would you buy a car without knowing how fast/how many miles it has on it??
you could call your ISP and ask them but why would I trust them!!!! | |
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join:2007-04-26
Morristown, TN
| Needs to be monitored!! The fact cable companies can place caps on service is fine. Its a service i pay them to use. They set the rules. Thats clear. This doesnt change the fact that its time someone steps in and finds out why cable companies can charge the insane fees they charge and noone bats an eye. This summer when gas went up to nearly 5 dollars a gallon you had people ready to shoot others.
Cable companies can charge you whatever they want, Cap your service, Make you like it and noone seems to even notice. I personally dont do anything but play xbox 360 online, Hardly ever download. As long as it doesnt bother my game play im fine. When it does, Theyll do what they do best. Lose another customer. I pay good money to use a service and to be able to use it the way i need it to be used. | |
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Stacked.
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: clas action lawsuit!! This has always been an issue indeed. The provider needs to be able to provide you with a meter that you can access from a website to check on your bandwidth. There should also be a way to dispute data by providing your own records.
I currently have three physical PC's, two laptops, and a vonage device hooked up to the four ports of my router (laptops are wireless) and the only way to measure traffic really is for the provider to tell me how much passed my modem.
In essence: There can be no limit until there is a meter. You wouldn't accept it either if your water, gas and electricity were unmetered and you could not check how much you are using. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: clas action lawsuit!! You can put DD-WRT on your router, as I have. But that requires a decent router. Still no excuse for the provider to cap and not tell you how close you are to said cap. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | If/when U-verse comes to my area Charter can kiss it 150 GB cap for 10 Mbps( att ) vs 100 GB cap for 10 Mbps( Charter ). Hmmm. which will I choose? Both suck, but one gives me 50% more bandwidth. | |
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join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO
| Cheaper to buy 2 connections? Depending on the overage charges, it may be cheaper to buy two connections. For multi users homes (or multi connection apps) it may be cheaper to just buy a two wan router to handle it(assuming two connections).
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join:2004-09-01
Monterey Park, CA | ... Well, looks like I'm screwed. I stream lots of shows with netflix on my 360. Looks like their plan is working. 
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join:2006-06-07
Oakland, CA | No way in hell 100? I am on 10/1/ tier and I downloaded 40 gigs in 12 hrs. I hit nearly 400 gigs in 2 weeks. Does ATT do caps? they have the elite package in my area. | |
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join:2001-09-05
Auburn, AL | Blows With charter being the only option in my college town, this officially blows if I may say so myself. | |
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join:2006-11-15
Saint Louis, MO | Weak. I did 25 gigs in one day last month... and i'm only on 10mb | |
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