  hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
kudos:1 | LMAO at that price | |
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"Here's 100mbps, it's perfect for networked heavy users... But just don't you dare fucking download or upload anything you fucking thief" | |
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| |  LuwigiePremium
join:2002-06-06
East Lansing, MI | Re: LMAO 10 mbit service could download 200 gigs in 44 hours. 100 mbit service in 4.4 hours. You could blow your entire month in a hurry...but what's the point? | |
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| | | | | | Re: LMAO They did it for the lulz. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: LMAO Imagine so. That or the sucker factor. I mean someone has to have a lot of money to piss away to spend 1.25 a GB. That's some high class downloading and transfer costs right there. I mean if they wanted to offer a 99.9 SLA / boost it to 100mbit dn and 10mbit up / and sell this as "Lite Business Class", that'd be a different story. However, to market this junk in its current form to home users is just hysterical. LULZ FTW. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: LMAO yeah, frickin hard drives cost less per GB than that! | |
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Adi | |
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| | | | | | It would actually be more like. Getting a Porche with a motorcycle sized tank.. | |
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| | | | | said by Luwigie:10 mbit service could download 200 gigs in 44 hours. 100 mbit service in 4.4 hours. You could blow your entire month in a hurry...but what's the point? Some of us still have that obese mentality. 'All you can eat' then I'll eat everything until I burst. If I had 100/5 why and what should I be downloading 365/24/7?
I just saw my monthly transfer stats and it didn't reach 2~4GB! I work from home and use my internet connection constantly from browsing, streaming music to uploading databases and cgi scripts. Sometimes I use Vuze for legacy stuff (Amiga, C64, CoCo, ROMs etc) and seed the downloads for days at a time.
I'd gladly pay $250 C for 100/5. | |
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| | | | | | Re: LMAO said by anon2007 :
Some of us still have that obese mentality. 'All you can eat' then I'll eat everything until I burst. If I had 100/5 why and what should I be downloading 365/24/7? That's a poor analogy. A better one would be leasing a Ferrari for $249.95/month with the 20 mile/month mileage limit. Sure you can go those 20 miles very fast but if you only needed to travel 20 miles in an entire month, wouldn't you be better off just getting a bicycle?
And why in the world would you pay $250 C if you only download 2-4 Gb per month? P.T. Barnum sure knew what he was talking about.  | |
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| | | Warez_ZealotRural land of the rising sun
join:2006-04-19
japan | said by Luwigie:10 mbit service could download 200 gigs in 44 hours. 100 mbit service in 4.4 hours. You could blow your entire month in a hurry...but what's the point? Cause you will only ever see 20% of that 100Mbits  | |
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| | TheMGPremium
join:2007-09-04
Canada
kudos:1 Reviews:
 ·TekSavvy DSL
| The funniest thing is my cap on DSL for $36 a month is 200GB, and overage charge of $0.25 per GB or $10 for an additional 100GB block.
For the cost of that cable connection, I could bond 4 DSL lines for 24Mbps down and 4Mbps upload with a whopping 800GB cap, and money to spare, perhaps to spend on an additional 800GB for a total of 1600GB.
For the same cost, which would you pick? 24/4 with 1600GB cap, or 100/5 with 200GB cap? | |
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|  OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium
join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL | Broadband in US sucks and will suck.Looks at Sweden they have 100mb connections for less than $40 a month and they still want more speed  | |
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| |  PhilRojo SolPremium
join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA
kudos:2 | Re: LMAO Shaw is a Canadian ISP. | |
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| | |  DaSneaky1Done wall to block them allPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou | Re: LMAO You know, that's the funniest post of this thread! | |
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| | | | | | Re: LMAO Our financial system isn't on the verge of Collapse and we have a public medical system that actually works. So the answer is NO. Not even close be being part of the US! | |
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| | | | | said by Phil:Shaw is a Canadian ISP. Canada is the U.S.'s de facto 51st state. | |
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| | | |  andybPremium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
kudos:1 | Re: LMAO You wish. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: LMAO Except our Banking system isn't failing. | |
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| | | | Re: LMAO said by maartena:A virtual $10 says their site (I haven't looked) advertises the limit with how many millions of e-mails, and how many thousands of MP3's that is.  I'd also be willing to speculate that right after it says how many MP3s that is, there is a * and at the bottom of the page in small print it says " *This is assuming the mp3 song is 2 minutes long with a 64 bit rate"
(I haven't looked either) | |
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join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
kudos:1 | Re: LMAO Its not a for sale option really.It's more or less to let people know that they can do it and are the first to offer 100mb.
The caps are to keep people from buying it also.It's just a marketing ploy. | |
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| OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium
join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL | I do not understand how US can be technologically advanced when we have shit for broadband | |
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| | | | Re: LMAO said by Oleg:I do not understand how US can be technologically advanced when we have shit for broadband Since when was Shaw a US provider? | |
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| |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by Oleg:I do not understand how US can be technologically advanced when we have shit for broadband $$$ CORPORATE GREED $$$
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Dude..... Your paying OVER $200(USD) and ONLY getting 200g?!?! Thats 20x the speed, so you can download 20 100m files and thats it. Even comcast gives you 250G. Thats crazy..... | |
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| fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: Dude..... Who knows.. like the canadian dollar to the US dollar, maybe there's a Canadian GB to the U.S. GB.. | |
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| booboo2
join:2009-01-19
Southlake, TX | Just to clarify, (20) 100m files is 2G... | |
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| | wvcaverPremium
join:2005-04-17
Millersburg, OH | Re: Dude..... said by booboo2:Just to clarify, (20) 100m files is 2G... Not if you are a Verizion CSR | |
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| | me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Oh, sry left oss a "0", but Still not that much, with HD video out there. | |
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| | | | | Re: Dude..... You left off 2 "0". You can download 200 1GB files. So, about 570 TV shows at standard HDTV quality (350MB/hr), or roughly 17 days solid, of TV programs. Or roughly 150 hours of higher quality TV rips, at 1.1GB/hr. Or 142 movie rips at 1.4GB/movie. So, about 4 movies a day. Or, more Hollywood movies than come out per month in any given region, both to DVD and theater combined.
Now, that said... still not enough. Not even close. Maybe 500GB/month would be better. | |
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join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: Dude..... For what they would be paying it sould be no cap, for about $50 more a month you can get unlimited(T1), sure it may be slower(by a lot), but no caps, and its not that much more. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Dude..... Yes... but 16 hours of TV per day, or every single movie being released in a month... what else could you possibly need so much bandwidth for? There's only so many hours a day to do anything in. | |
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join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: Dude..... Mutiple HD vids(like at;east 2 people, most likely more) some VoIPs have a cloned line, so thats 2 conversations going over the net. online gaming while buffering lots of vids(HD or ED) or the ever bandwidth eating(lets say there are 2 people in the house doing this): playing halo 3 online(2 different x-boxes) downloading a large file, buffering 2 or more HD vids, and when you done and just about to watch the vids, your mom/dad calls and and the other persons grandma calls you talk for 20 mins, then watch the vids, THEN look up a recepie for dinner, ann after dinner mor e halo. Thats how a lot of people live dude, I'm not one thankfuly, but I know some. | |
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| | 100/5? 5MB up? Seriously?
That reminds me of those guys with huge upper bodies and scrawny legs. | |
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|  IgnitePremium,VIP
join:2004-03-18
UK | Re: 100/5? said by fifty nine:5MB up? Seriously? That reminds me of those guys with huge upper bodies and scrawny legs. That's cable for you I'm afraid. Remember you said that cable can, until the upstream bonding is resolved it can up to 26.4Mbit per upstream and 20Mbit of that being used will degrade latency for the rest of the customers on that upstream.
So 5Mbit is a relatively safe number for now. | |
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Version DOCSIS EuroDOCSIS Both
1.x 42.88 (38) Mbit/s 55.62 (50) Mbit/s 10.24 (9) Mbit/s
2.0 42.88 (38) Mbit/s 55.62 (50) Mbit/s 30.72 (27) Mbit/s
3.0 4channel +171.52 (+152) Mbit/s +222.48 (+200) Mbit/s +122.88 (+108) Mbit/s
3.0 8channel +343.04 (+304) Mbit/s +444.96 (+400) Mbit/s +122.88 (+108) Mbit/s
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS | |
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cacoPremium
join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK | Wow, Mafia would be proud. A cap at 249.95 per month? Sad part is that someone will pay for that.
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|  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Wow, Mafia would be proud. What's really sad is that a 1.5Mbps connection could consume more than 200GB in a month.
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| | | | Re: Wow, Mafia would be proud. said by en102:What's really sad is that a 1.5Mbps connection could consume more than 200GB in a month. Yes, but it will take all month!
I can fill my car with gas in about 3 minutes, but it takes about 7 hours to consume it if I don't stop! Luckly, it really takes about 9 days.
I sometimes download a Linux ISO. It would be nice to get that in 70 seconds. But it takes me about 15 minutes. I don't think the extra speed would cause me to download more data per month, just allow me to spend less time waiting for stuff. | |
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| | | | | Re: Wow, Mafia would be proud. The sad thing is that a lot of sites can't push 100 mbit to you (except maybe Microsoft Update). So you are not going to be able to use all that download unless you are downloading a lot of torrents.... | |
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| | | | en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Wow, Mafia would be proud. I've been on 3Mbps / 512kbps ADSL for years - downloaded Linux ISO DVDs, etc. Sure, it took a little while, but was cost effective at $25/month
At the same time, Cable was pushing 6Mbps for $45.
Since then I bundled, got 6Mbps for $30, which has been upgraded to 10/1.
For most things... do I notice the difference ? Not really. | |
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 R4M0NBrazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
join:2000-10-04
Glen Allen, VA | $249.95 (Canadian) for 200GB of usage HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! | |
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1 edit | You could hit your cap in less than 5 hours! You could hit your cap in less than 5 hours!
And, 5Mb is just enough to support a download at 100Mb!
When I am downloading at 6mb/sec, I have about 200kb/sec up to support the acks. My guess is while downloading at 100mb, you will be using over 3mb up, just in overhead! | |
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| R4M0NBrazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
join:2000-10-04
Glen Allen, VA
2 edits | Re: You could hit your cap in less than 5 hours! I may be mistaken, but since the acks are pretty small, all you need is fast latency to send them, not a big pipe. ACK packets are only a few bytes in size. | |
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| | | | Re: You could hit your cap in less than 5 hours! Yes, but on my network they consume over 20KB/sec when downloading at 800,000KB/sec. | |
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| | | donaldkPremium
join:2000-10-19
Thunder Bay, ON Reviews:
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| Re: You could hit your cap in less than 5 hours! And over the internet that number would be way higher..... contrary to popular belief, on the net the more ACKs the better unless your upload is THAT small. I hit over 20KB/s in ACK's all the time... my own testing on all major Canadian ISP's (Telus/Bell/Shaw/Rogers/Eastlink/Videotron) revealed the setting to ACKs to one or two yielded the fastest speeds and usually I hit the connections caps even during peak, and negliable loss off peak. If I was doing it on a small LAN, then obviously that ACK setting is a bit rediculous (instead of ACK to every 1.5KB I'll boost it up to whatever the LAN controller caches.. usually around 64/128KB). For 10Mbps of downstram it reachs almost 60KB/s if there is heavy packet loss. Windows' default is every 3 packets and if you are using windows at 800MB/s and getting 20KB/s that means if you went 1:1 you would only use 60KB/s but at least wehn another node starts chatting on the line, you won't gets those pops and sputters during your transfer (get Netstat live, do a download with the default 1:3 setting from a busier server and do it on a cable modem, you'll get the hills, now change windows ACK to 1:1 and run it, you'll get a very flat line on your graph nad probably hit your caps, unless there is heavy congestion, at which you'll slow down a bit but it should remain smooth if TCP's flow control is working properly). | |
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| | only a sucker would pay for this... But, there's a sucker born every minute. | |
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join:2003-05-23
Columbia, MD | Epic fail This service well and truly makes no sense IMO. | |
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join:2000-06-08
Glendale, CA | ROFL! HAHA 200GB a month cap. That's just too funny. I go through 200GB on my 10mb connection within like a day lol. They seriously need to reconsider raising the cap to like 1TB.
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| bemis
join:2008-07-18
Reading, MA | Re: ROFL! Considering it takes 45 hours to pass 200GB on a 10Mb/s connection that is some serious l33t internet use you've got going on :^P | |
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bemis
join:2008-07-18
Reading, MA | Ugg... 100Mb/s service with a 200GB/mo cap? That's like selling a Lamborghini with a 1.5 gallon capacity gas tank... | |
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| | What are their other tiers? Anyone know? | |
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|  MarkAWBarry WhitePremium
join:2001-08-27
Canada
kudos:16 | Re: What are their other tiers? Shaw High-Speed Lite
* $22.00/month regular price when bundled with any other Shaw service
* $29.95/month standalone
# Up to 256 Kbps download speed
# Up to 128 Kbps upload speed
# 10 GB per month data transfer limit
# 3 personal email addresses
# 8 No Cost Extras
# 24/7/365 technical assistance
# 1 IP address
# Modem included
Shaw High-Speed Internet
* $32.00/month regular price when bundled with any other Shaw service
* $40.95/month standalone
* Add PowerBoost™ for $2.95/month
# Up to 5 Mbps download speed
# Up to 512 Kbps upload speed
# 60 GB/month data transfer
# 10 Personal email accounts
# 8 No Cost Extras
# Up to two IP addresses (*2)
# 24/7/365 technical assistance
# Modem included
Shaw High-Speed Xtreme-I
* $42.00/month regular price when bundled with any other Shaw service
* $50.95/month standalone
# Up to 10 Mbps download speed
# Up to 1 Mbps upload speed
# 100 GB/month data transfer
# 10 personal email accounts
# 8 No Cost Extras
# Up to two IP addresses (*2)
# 24/7/365 technical assistance
# Modem included
Shaw High-Speed Nitro
* $93.00/month when bundled with any other Shaw service
* $101.95/month standalone
* Up to 25 Mbps download speed
* Up to 1 Mbps upload speed
* 150 GB/month data transfer
* 10 personal email accounts
* 8 No Cost Extras
* Up to two IP addresses (*2)
* 24/7/365 technical assistance
* Modem included
PowerBoost™ is a great feature from Shaw that allows you a 5 to 20 second burst of downloading speed by temporarily increasing your available bandwidth. Now you can download music, pictures, videos and small software updates even faster with Shaw’s PowerBoost.
PowerBoost is included with Xtreme-I service and is available to Shaw High-Speed Internet customers for $2.95 per month.
»www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices
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| | Shaw... More like Shaw right! | |
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| | how much? I looked at the site and could find how much per extra meg?
Not much under conditions | |
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| | | Re: how much? No overage fees. If you abuse too much and get caught, you get a call. Then another call and a suspension. And if that continues, a disconnection. But if you can't throttle back such excessive use after 2 calls, that's your own problem and you'd be a strain on any network. | |
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| | YA and japan gets 1 gigabit up and down and a 1.2TB download cap and no upload cap and for what 56USD a month
YOU ALL GET SHAFT and LOVE IT | |
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|  espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2
 ·Clear Wireless
| Re: YA said by chronoss2009:and japan gets 1 gigabit up and down and a 1.2TB download cap and no upload cap and for what 56USD a month Broadband subscribers in Japan also consume less than 26GB/mo on average. This is the largest contributing factor to the ~$50USD /mo pricing.
Data was collected from all of the country's broadband providers and presented last summer -- you can see the slide deck here: »www.caida.org/workshops/wide/080···ffic.pdf
The prevalence in Japan is 100mbps fiber access, not gigabit access. | |
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| | Reviews:
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·AT&T Yahoo
·Comcast
| Re: YA said by espaeth:said by chronoss2009:and japan gets 1 gigabit up and down and a 1.2TB download cap and no upload cap and for what 56USD a month Broadband subscribers in Japan also consume less than 26GB/mo on average. This is the largest contributing factor to the ~$50USD /mo pricing. Data was collected from all of the country's broadband providers and presented last summer -- you can see the slide deck here: » www.caida.org/workshops/wide/080···ffic.pdfThe prevalence in Japan is 100mbps fiber access, not gigabit access. on 1.5mb dsl you can average 200gb a month so i find that someone with higher speed 10mbit,25mbit,50mbit,100mbit unable to use anymore then us consumer make no sense... They may as well all be using dsl and cable if the average japanese consumer is only 26gb???
I think that sound more like a dialup user... or ISDN at best...
If I am given 1.2cap it guranteed that at least 1.2gb is used up in a matter of days  | |
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| | | | your stats are menaing less why, cause if i am able to get 1+ TB and have unlimited upload then i when i wish can and will use it.
Ya see thats the spin rogers and bell told bme 4 time son phone
90% of users use 30GB or less
then why does bell and rogers increase caps? cause it was a lie to try and force us all down and we said no and moved to TSI
even cogecos 100GB cap was better watch them now to get into a little more like maybe 150 and suddenly you have what we should a actual speed race.
Americans are now in the 30-50 megabit range in major places while were toying with 25KByte traffic shaping HAHAH
AND like i said all it takes is some really rich wealthy man to drop buy and make canada his home and put down 100 million to make his own niche and suddenly the threatened peeps will go for it, thing is if a new player came we might all give em a try if they had net neutrality as a core and good to average at least tech support that had its jobs in canada....
THATS HOW MUCH DAMAGE YOU ISPS HAVE DONE TO YOUR SELVES HERE.
watch .....What if rocky was told as with all the CAIP members that if there members switched to a ewn network that might charge them all 1$ a account less, and stop the shaping , ya think CAIP would jump en masse? | |
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| | Forget it. What's the point if none of their customers can afford it, and even if they could, they could blow their 200gb in a hurry if they wanted to? Bragging rights? | |
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| | would have been a great value for 50 dollars Yes it comes with a traffic usage cap , but thats a significant ammount of traffic per month though.Would have been the perfect connection for casual bittorent users like me. | |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | US/Canada=3rd world broadband nations. When is everyone going to get it? ISps need to stop thinking about short term profit and think about the BIG picture. Seriously I would hope they had plans on existing beyond 5-10 years. If so then worry about how you plan on being around in 25-50 years. | |
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| | ALL isps who cap or meter. When in the HELL are they going learn, or are they ever no one will pay for this crap. | |
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| Re: ALL isps who cap or meter. said by hayabusa3303:When in the HELL are they going learn, or are they ever no one will pay for this crap. Thats a pipedream for those who will pay anything for brags rights
I got 100 mbit connection on cable, it awesome, its fast and costing only 249.99 per month a great bargain?
Whats the upload? I dunno, all I know is that it faster then anything I have used. I can download really fast but I rarely upload anything so it great for leeching oh wait whats the 200gb cap mean? how much is 200gb?
Classic ripoff for the joe who isn't so technical savvy
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 mig288Premium
join:2002-07-13
Merchantville, NJ | RIP off You have got to be kidding me! I doubt they will have many subscribers for this 100/5 package with a 200 GB cap. It just doesn't make sense | |
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| | Epic joke? wow 269 bucks what a deal for 200gigs. Heck you gotta pay teksavvy like 20 bucks for that much bandwith. If you use the 200gigs u start with for like 30 bucks that is... | |
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|  RolteC0h
join:2001-05-20
Fresh Meadows, NY
kudos:1 | Re: Epic joke? LOL, so sad, so sad.
So who is going to post the first speed test!!!! | |
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