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Comments on news posted 2009-02-12 15:22:59: If you recall, five years ago or so, when Intel first began really seriously hyping their investment in WiMax, they called the technology "the most important thing since the Internet itself." Half a decade later, much of WiMax's U.S. ..

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kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

WiMax is better...

...than the alternatives. Especially the vaporware known as LTE.

WiMax is here now, it works and it works well.

The reason it hasn't taken off is because A) Carriers aren't ready to ditch their third generation networks yet...hell, they just got done building them, and some like T-Mo haven't even done that yet. ...and B) Because WiMax is too open, too standardized for carriers who like walled gardens and protection for their revenue stream...so they cooked up their own version called LTE.
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Smile__
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join:2008-10-10
New Freedom, PA

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Let it go people.. March 5th

You will all hear good..

It's my teaser..


TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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said by Smile__ See Profile :

Let it go people.. March 5th
You will all hear good..
Meaning what?

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
reply to kapil
Re: WiMax is better...

Amen to that. WiMAX is already out in plenty of smallish deployments here in the US. LTE Nowhere to be found.


Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Let it go people.. March 5th

I'd assume some actual deployment instead of just Portland and Baltimore.

LineNoise

join:2006-06-25
Bolingbrook, IL
·AT&T Midwest

reply to Smile__
Please, you're going to hear DC, Vegas, Philly. Until they can get their shit together and roll out Chicago or any other large markets and get it working they've got nothing.

I've seen nominal improvements in Chicago in regards to coverage, but I've seen a decrease in speed for sure.

Start rumors about the 5th, but remember that Sprint has a hand in it, something is going to get delayed, even more and you're setting everyone up for disappointment.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to kapil
Re: WiMax is better...

Wimax will never take off other than a niche non-mainstream technology for small WISPs selling service in 256 kbit blocks and business-grade connections priced competitively with a T3.

Lets see how standardized it is, [Pre-Wimax, Fixed Wimax, Mobile Wimax, Wibro, Wimax 20**, proprietary addons to Wimax by base station manufacturers]*[each country's own wimax frequency bands]*[a particular provider's frequency bands]=10s to 100s of incompatible products and permutations.

Meanwhile GSM is simple, US freq and/or Euro freq, end of story. I assume LTE to be similar in compatibility.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to LineNoise
Re: Let it go people.. March 5th

I bet LTE will debut in NY and LA before NY and LA WiMax debuts, after that, the market made its choice. It will be easier to sell 4G to your existing customer base, than attract a new one under a new brand (Clear). WiMax's only advantage over LTE was being faster to market, that isn't happening now. Might I point to the sucess of Sprint's last 4G experiment, Flash-OFDM many years ago.


Smile__
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MrMaster
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Las mile viability?

how would it work as a last mile initiative? say with money from the stimulus package?


DaveNJ
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reply to kapil
Re: WiMax is better...

said by kapil See Profile :

...than the alternatives. Especially the vaporware known as LTE.

WiMax is here now, it works and it works well.

The reason it hasn't taken off is because A) Carriers aren't ready to ditch their third generation networks yet...hell, they just got done building them, and some like T-Mo haven't even done that yet. ...and B) Because WiMax is too open, too standardized for carriers who like walled gardens and protection for their revenue stream...so they cooked up their own version called LTE.
And probably the fact that Wimax cant handover calls to GSM, UMTS, or cdma, Because it cant. But LTE can, and has been proven to do so. Plus with the economy and the fact that UMTS has quite a few years left in it. Why waste money, no one else plans to use it. Sprint may be first to launch Wimax, but the long list of sprint blunders, this just adds to the list.
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Smile__
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reply to LineNoise
Re: Let it go people.. March 5th

All I said was good.. Not something great... Dont be mad my friend.. I have no idea what markets they are going to say but I know it will be good.


ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
reply to kapil
Re: WiMax is better...

WiMax is dead


DaveNJ
No Fear

join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
reply to MrMaster
Re: Las mile viability?

Stimulus just further strengthens the duopoly.


Richard B
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join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
Why this post makes me feel


The reports of WiMax's death are greatly exaggerated.


podstolom

@swbell.net
Put a fork in it.

Intel should jus junk WiMax and go with LTE. Standardize everything, make life simple for everybody. Just get on with the 4G already.


kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

reply to DaveNJ
Re: WiMax is better...

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

sprint blunders
I understand that Sprint has pissed off more than its fair share of people in the past...but that's hardly a reason to doom WiMax.

WiMax is an IEEE standard. LTE is vaporware. Think WiFi vs. Ricochet. Remember Ricochet? Exactly.

Give WiMax a chance. It will have it's day...right now enjoy your 3G network.
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kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

reply to ninjatutle
said by ninjatutle See Profile :

WiMax is dead
How insightful. You base this opinion on what? Your hatred of sprint? Your connection to industry insiders? Your work in the broadband deployment field? LOL. WiMax hasn't even arrived. Mostly because 4G networks are 5 years away from ubiquitous deployment. At least you can see WiMax networks alive...LTE only exists in labs.
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MooJohn

join:2005-12-18
Milledgeville, GA
·Windstream

Enough already!

Is BBR shooting for a "WiMax is dead/dying" article quota? Every other day or so the same information is regurgitated as "news". We get it -- deployment may be slower and more costly than expected. LTE will win the day it's released. Gotcha.

LTE's going to be found on cellphones and portable devices. Great. Wonderful. You can check weather, showtimes, email, whatever.

Meanwhile, anything that can actually use the throughput of real 4G will use WiMax. 6mbit isn't confined to handset applications. It's true wire-speed connection whether at home (for your entire household) or on the go. Reviews by people who have actually used the product are very positive.

It's quite funny that a technology that hasn't been seen yet is already superior to WiMax just because it's backed by AT&T and Verizon. In case you forgot, it isn't just Sprint that'll be marketing WiMax. Clearwire is shooting to become the first legitimate "third option" for broadband in a large section of the country. It's that option of choice that will make WiMax relevant to a wide audience.
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RadioDoc
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reply to kapil
Re: WiMax is better...

I believe he was referring to Sprint's reputation as a blundering dunderhead with most of their non-core (and even some of their core) business efforts, not necessarily WiMax being a blunder in and of itself.

However, WiMax could not have a worse promoter in the US.
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