Lewism8
join:2008-04-25
Quebec, QC | Really?
Yeah right ... |
|
chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA | not a fan of any type of control like this. However, they have been very forthcoming with information. Will see how it goes. |
|
funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·Skype
| Why this PR was Inadequate Disclosure
It will only be used on the upstream? Where was that in the disclosure?
And are they -- or aren't they -- looking at specific protocols? How do they know, without looking SOMEHOW at the protocol -- if an application is FTP or HTTP, P2P file-sharing or not?
--
Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon -- KJ7RL
... Do something! ... |
|
major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
Premium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
clubs: | Cocks: 2nd only to Comcrap in doubleplus ungood thinking
Ah yet another PR move by Cocks spokesdittoheads talking outta both sides of their pie holes.... Well er no, we're NOT looking at specific protocols, but um, yes, we are! |
|
gtoken
join:2003-12-28
Fort Smith, AR | DOCSIS 3.0
So is COX using DOCSIS 3.0 in Arkansas now? Will I need to get a new modem to use DOCSIS 3.0? |
|
Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to funchords
Re: Why this PR was Inadequate Disclosure
You and your pesky demand for details. |
|
needforspeed59
Cruise Ship Just Passing Through
join:2001-05-02
Glendale, AZ | reply to major marco
Re: Cocks: 2nd only to Comcrap in doubleplus ungood thinking
Nice pun. What are you, 7 years old? 
--
Great success! High five! |
|
espaeth
Digital Plumber
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
·voip.ms
·Vitelity VOIP
·Callcentric
·VoiceStick
·ViaTalk
 ·Comcast
·Embarq
1 edit | reply to gtoken
Re: DOCSIS 3.0
said by gtoken  :So is COX using DOCSIS 3.0 in Arkansas now? Will I need to get a new modem to use DOCSIS 3.0? For channel bonding you need a modem with multiple tuners, so yes for the full DOCSIS 3.0 connection you need a new modem.
The article stated, however, that the management system was live in Arkansas, not DOCSIS 3.0. |
|
funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC | reply to Karl Bode
Re: Why this PR was Inadequate Disclosure
If you're going to hang me, can I know who made the rope? |
|
DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
Metairie, LA
clubs:
| reply to chemaupr
Re: Really?
I guess what they are implicitly saying is that all encrypted traffic will be throttled now.
ever p2p application i use now has encryption options, eg bit torrent, and emule (they call it obfuscation), which until now seems to have been working, so I guess i can kiss that goodbye |
|
funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
·Verizon Online DSL
·Skype
| said by DataRiker :I guess what they are implicitly saying is that all encrypted traffic will be throttled now. ever p2p application i use now has encryption options, eg bit torrent, and emule (they call it obfuscation), which until now seems to have been working, so I guess i can kiss that goodbye Well you aren't in the trial area (Kansas and Arkansas) so you shouldn't be noticing anything. Are you?
Forget about the encryption options in BitTorrent and eMule as they are not likely to be effective. Today's DPI includes looking across multiple packets and the pattern/directions/lengths of the packets to guess at the protocols. So it'll be necessary (once again) for the P2P obfuscation to evolve to break up those predictable patterns. And so the world turns. Fortunately, the P2P developers can do this easily.
SOAPBOX
Profit-driven network vendors get rich selling these new "solutions" to the foolish business suits inside ISPs (who haven't yet matured to realize the futility of it all). Some tech libertarians think we ought not have Network Neutrality regulation because ultimately, the Internet works around roadblocks anyway so regulations would be unnecessary. True to a point, but regulations would help prevent ISPs from making such dumb decisions in the first place and would return network vendors back to job 1 -- innovating in the space that actually grows the capacity of the network, not simply reshuffles it.
/SOAPBOX
--
Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon -- KJ7RL
... Do something! ... |
|
Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to funchords
Re: Why this PR was Inadequate Disclosure
I suppose next you'll demand to know WHY you were hanged. I mean really. The nerve. |
|
funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
·Verizon Online DSL
·Skype
| said by Karl Bode :I suppose next you'll demand to know WHY you were hanged. I mean really. The nerve. No. I already know why.     
--
Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon -- KJ7RL
... Do something! ... |
|
major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
Premium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
clubs: | reply to needforspeed59
Re: Cocks: 2nd only to Comcrap in doubleplus ungood thinking
8. |
|
DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
Metairie, LA
clubs:
4 edits | reply to funchords
Re: Really?
Yes you are correct that i am not in the test area but about 6 months ago any torrents would experience unusually slow speeds which seemed to fix itself after enabling encrytion, didn't do any sophisticated research.
i don't have enough time right now to explain the emule behavior but clients would just drop off.
have not tested without encryption recently for a baseline
have not had the need too, all my torrents now reach over 1 MB/s (well with seeds that is)
actually I am very happy with cox for now, works awesome, except for that brief time period |
|
KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T DSL Service
·Cox HSI
| Neat, now they can sell people services they don't have
Great! Now they can oversubscribe and sell people a lot of high speed tiers, without actually having to upgrade or support the infrastructure costs to providing said services--- because they can just "Traffic Manage" the "Congestion."
Cya Cox, I'm outta here.
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
|
|
KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to needforspeed59
Re: Cocks: 2nd only to Comcrap in doubleplus ungood thinking
You don't like "Spokesdittoheads"? |
|
Its a Secret
Whatever
Premium
join:2008-02-23
U B Funny
·Shaw
| reply to DataRiker
Re: Really?
said by DataRiker :I guess what they are implicitly saying is that all encrypted traffic will be throttled now. I wonder if encrypted email will bite the dust as well.
--
"In the future, that which is not mandatory will be illegal" |
|
Its a Secret
Whatever
Premium
join:2008-02-23
U B Funny
·Shaw
| reply to KrK
Re: Neat, now they can sell people services they don't have
said by KrK :Cya Cox, I'm outta here. Or, as some would say... Cya, Cox suckers...
--
"In the future, that which is not mandatory will be illegal" |
|
dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Checkbook congestion management
Guess we'll have to implement some of our own.
games and HTTP reqs use little bandwidth
just another way of avoiding putting any money in upgrades.
--
When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee |
|
