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Comments on news posted 2009-02-13 13:52:25: For those interested in what $789 billion will buy you these days, you can check out what should be the final infrastructure stimulus plan here (hat tip to Stacey Higginbotham). While the $7. ..

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Porky 33

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What's left?

This sounds like it is now a Pork Bill. What use is this money going to? to help farmers herd cattle? And no stimulus to areas that can use higher speeds than 768kbs or 2Mbps ....

Where is the investment in Broadband or the promised higher speeds and special tax breaks for those companies who do invest in fiber or higher speeds?

" Cable-industry lobbyists complained that the 100Mbps watermark was too fast"

You mean they can't keep up? Who are they to decide what is too fast? Explain why other countries are putting out 1Gbps (GPON) why would these much smaller countries need it and yet the US doesn't????

What politicking .... Lobbyists win again. good job. Nice to know "YOUR" elected officials are keeping an eye out for you rather than their pocketbook....

Look at the facts: Congress members have a higher percentage of criminal record than the average person in NY City alone.

And these are the guys running a country that people put there.


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This sounds like it is now a Pork Bill.
Maybe. The mapping provision could be useful if done correctly. The problem with this country's approach to broadband has traditionally been follow up. The bill could contain a million brilliant propositions, but if nobody accurately maps broadband coverage, or nobody holds anybody accountable across a wide slew of well-lobbied agencies, it all means nothing.


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 Dept Agriculture has poor record on using funds for broadban

The $2.5 billion to be administered by RUS could be problematic. They have a very bad record of using the funds they were given before to roll out rural broadband. The reason they got such a big chunk of money was to satisfy Sen Harkin of Iowa who wanted them to get the money. He is chairman of the Agriculture Committee. He didn't want to lose out on all those free lobbyist perks coming his way.

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 100mbps is too fast?

That is so funny...
Lets all continue to stick with DSL and Cable with caps indefinitely cause its more then fast enough for email and youtube junkie.
/sarscasm
No fiber competition no need to worry about losing customer to better service with unlimited usage as well
Next they be saying 50mbps is too fast
Then 20mbit is too fast
The united state is like 3rd word country while third world is 1st world
We are behind the rest of the world but who cares right as long as consumer continue to pay through the rooftop for slow broadband and a promise to have faster connection in the future with ADSL2+ Docsis3.0 another bs gimmick that is based on using existing copper that has limitation a complete waste of our time, money, and resource.
In Japan, Sweden,Australia,netherland,taiwan, china, USSR, Korea 100mbps is considered average they are going 1000mbps in the near future.

The only thing America is good at is using the most gasoline and having the biggest car with the biggest engine in the world. The biggest gas consumer will become the poorest nation in the world. American company that complain about 100mb as being too fast is idiotic and laugable at best.


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Hey asshats in Washington

Send my check for $350,000,000.00 for a map of high speed in America.

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Re: What's left?

said by Porky 33 :

Where is the investment in Broadband or the promised higher speeds and special tax breaks for those companies who do invest in fiber or higher speeds?
Taken out, luckily. I hated that provision. Most large operators are already making healthy profits on broadband. The largest would have recieved tax money to line their profits more as it was previously written because they have a rollout of "next-gen" internet going (mainly just in large cities). We would have basically been paying them twice and that was a really stupid idea.

What they need to do is press for more competition and prevent companies from trying to derail munis (especially in areas that most companies would never serve without regulation anyway).

I don't see much of that in there, but at least better broadband mapping will be a start.
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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

This sounds like it is now a Pork Bill.
Maybe.The problem with this country's approach to broadband has traditionally been follow up. The bill could contain a million brilliant propositions, but if nobody accurately maps broadband coverage, or nobody holds anybody accountable across a wide slew of well-lobbied agencies, it all means nothing.
You could replace "broadband" with just about anything
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True, that.


Porky 33

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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

This sounds like it is now a Pork Bill.
Maybe. The mapping provision could be useful if done correctly. The problem with this country's approach to broadband has traditionally been follow up. The bill could contain a million brilliant propositions, but if nobody accurately maps broadband coverage, or nobody holds anybody accountable across a wide slew of well-lobbied agencies, it all means nothing.


Yes, sounds like the only thing in the bill that is worth while.

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some areas can't get 768k for less than $80 a month, i'm one of the people there, I would LOVE 2m for $50 or less.


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said by me1212 See Profile :

some areas can't get 768k for less than $80 a month, i'm one of the people there, I would LOVE 2m for $50 or less.
Is this USA??? Crazy!
USA=3rd world country
YEAP...
only in select area do you see something a little better then this...
This is by design.
Surewest charges much more because their is no competition on fiber and also its very limited in America. Only CA and KS! 20/20 for 91.99 and 50/50 for 191.99
even if you can get these i doubt most can afford it

The only thing we can afford is 39.99 for 5/5 or 53.99 for 10/10

Oh well thats USA, land of the most ignorant and enslaved of all
Have fun with our slave band oops i meant asymmetrical dsl and cable crappy 10/1-20/1 ratio
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The Real Cost

How much of the pork spending in this bill is one time stimulus, and how much is just growing government permanently?

How much is it going to cost to maintain the broadband coverage map year after year? Do they get their own building in Washington DC?

What happens when Karl disagrees with the job that agency is doing and starts calling for a complete overhaul of the map again in 5 years?


Eat Me

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reply to Porky 33
Re: What's left?

I am glad they dropped tax breaks for Verizon. Verizon has already collected enough from taxpayers over the years. Time for other providers to get a chance to build their networks.


Eat Me

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Re: Dept Agriculture has poor record on using funds for broadban

Rural electric co-ops are pretty good though. We are serviced by one (Sussex REC) and they are by far the best utility I've ever had service from.

zfod_mtv

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6.7kbps to the U.S. House of Representatives


It's a little more than funny that I'm downloading the conference report PDFs from the U.S. House of Representatives at a maximum speed of 6.7kbps.

Fitting.


Duramax08
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plat2on1

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350 million dollars..

to find out who has broadband? seriously?

me1212

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Re: What's left?

Well we its $70 BEFORE taxes, I'm guessing closer to $80 after it maybe more like 75-77. its wireless, but they ALWAYS give you what you pay for I pay for 512 down now($45 a month) and I GET 512 down, it works with VoIP and the pings and pacet loss are about the same as cable. I would love 20/20 for $92 I could drop dish and save about $25 a month, 20/1 would work too, i don't do much uploading, other than normal web surfing.


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stimulous?

If they'd get rid of the "Net Neutrality" tone, I'd like it better. Other than that, I don't see how any of these pork programs STIMULATE the economy. I don't see Verizon, Qwest, Comcast, etc... re-hiring people they laid off.


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title wrong?

Titles says $7.2B, article says $7.2M.
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