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Comments on news posted 2009-02-19 09:56:31: According to an announcement this morning by Canadian cable operator Shaw, the company is expanding the availability of their 100Mbps downstream, 5Mbps upstream "High-Speed Nitro" tier into Saskatchewan. ..

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TigerLord
Resident Pentaxian
Premium,Mod
join:2002-06-09
Montreal
What a cload of crap

249.95$ for a 200GB cap?

"More value" for your money. People who can afford will not be morons, this is so insulting.


ztmike
Mark for moderation
Premium
join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN
Its no better than Comcasts Extreme tier with a cap of 250GB.


adisor19

join:2004-10-11
Ewww

This is disturbing actually. If i'm not mistaking, they also throttle bit torrent as well so not only is it called to 200GB but it's also gonna be dog slow to transfer files.

Adi

NeoandGeo

join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN
reply to ztmike
Re: What a cload of crap

It is no better. It's actually worse. Much worse.

This is insulting and pathetic on so many levels.


murky
Premium
join:2000-09-12
Eton, ON
clubs:
·Shaw

reply to TigerLord
It may be insulting to you but since I could never afford the service that part of Shaw's statement is irrelevant.
What is relevant as a home user is this part of the release:
"In addition to High-Speed Nitro, Shaw High Speed, currently offered at 5 megabytes per second (Mbps), will be bumped to 7.5 Mbps with PowerBoostTM, a feature that provides a 5 to 20-second burst of speed that makes downloading files and webpage's even faster; and High-Speed Xtreme-I, currently offered at 10 Mbps, will be upgraded to 15Mbps with PowerBoost."
I commented that I hadn't seen the change as of yesterday and find that it has been implemented today


pnjunction
Teksavvy Premium
Premium
join:2008-01-24
Toronto, ON
reply to adisor19
Re: Ewww

So pretty much I'm no better off than with my 5MB (unthrottled) DSL and 200GB cap for 30$/month. You don't need 100mbps to load web pages or watch Youtube videos.


Frank
is chilling
Premium
join:2000-11-03
somewhere
·Verizon FIOS

the scary part is

Hardly anybody will sign up for this horrible plan and then some tool in their marketing dept will use it as 'proof' that nobody wants higher speed internet when in reality the only reason nobody signs up for it is because it has a horrible pricepoint and a horrendous cap.
--
At first I thought everyone on the highway was drunk but then I realized I was driving in Florida


andyb
Premium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico

said by Frank See Profile :

Hardly anybody will sign up for this horrible plan and then some tool in their marketing dept will use it as 'proof' that nobody wants higher speed internet when in reality the only reason nobody signs up for it is because it has a horrible pricepoint and a horrendous cap.
That about sums it up nicely.


Qlinky

@rogers.com
wtf

what a universally dumb idea, like really? I don't understand how these people run a business with shit like this.

i feel sick where is the barf bucket


IWould



I 'd take it

My 5meg dsl is throttled too.
Pricepoint issue? Where?
$40/5meg = $8/meg
$250/100meg = $2.5/meg
Especially important for me is the upload @ 5 meg.
Yes, I'm not the average user, and wouldn't reach the 200g limit anyway, so the caps do not bother me.


Hpower
Roflmao

join:2000-06-08
Glendale, CA
Lame

The cap just kills it. I hit 200gb cap so easily with my 10mbps connection, pfft.
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The Internet is about to go down....it is actually.

NeoandGeo

join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN
reply to IWould
Re: I 'd take it

Yes it's a better price, but it's nearly worthless since they cap you. There really is no need for 100Mbps if you're not hitting 200GB a month.


hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs:
One more useless product

subject says all.


RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

Can 5Mbs up SUPPORT 100Mbs Down?

There is a need for an Uplink stream to support your downloading (sending ACKs, etc. to say "It Got Here - Send More Packets" and "Resend Packets that did not get here successfully"). Depending on how you are set up, a slow Uplink can throttle the downlink if the ratio is to large. The maximum ACHIEVABLE download speed is based on the upload speed as well as latency between the two nodes and a number of other factors. To get full download speed, the request for more packets must arrive soon enough to keep the sender going at full speed.


Jake1234

@verizon.net

If the contain caps

They should just list them as the average sustained speed + peak speed.

So this is a ~600kbit connection with a 100mbit burst down and 5mbit burst up for $204/month.

What's amazing is you can easily hit the cap on the 5mbit connection let alone the 100mbit!

Joy...I'll stick with my 20mbit/20mbit connection with no caps for $65.

chronoss2009

join:2008-09-23
·TekSavvy Solutions..

lets talk abou tthe capacity a second

100megabit unlimited = 31.6 Terabytes a month
200GB means that you will reach that in 4.7 hrs of use

do you want ot pay 249$ for 4.7 hrs of net time. AND
with teksavvy
a 5 megabit unlimited account means i get 31 days of use and can get around 1.5-1.6 TB

7-8 times the value at ONE FIFTH THE COST.
COME ON SHAW, pretty lame nice try.


hobojobo

@telus.net
Ya teksavvy is the only way to go if you want to use your internet connection. 200gigs is a joke but i guess bad PR is better then none.


Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.

join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
·Sprint Mobile Broa..

 reply to chronoss2009
said by chronoss2009 See Profile :

do you want ot pay 249$ for 4.7 hrs of net time.
this argument is used so often and is so fallacious it's not even funny. Yes, you can, in theory hit the cap in 4.7 hours, but the average Internet user and even many power-users will not.

You're paying for 100 megabits down (and 5 megabits up) with a 200GB cap; don't read into it any more than that...I don't like the low cap for that high of a speed either, but I'm sure that this speed tier will be quite nice for a lot of people who have the money for it....there's plenty out there who don't use anywhere near that amount of usage in a month, but want the speed.

I'll use myself as an example (and no, I"m not claiming to be the typical user OR someone who downloads incessantly). I have a 10 megabit connection, yet I use less than 100GB in a month's time; I have it for the speed and nothing else.

Yes, I'm aware you can hit a cap faster with higher speed, but I'm merely pointing out a fallacious argument that gets used over and over and over again.

praetoralpha

join:2005-08-06
Mount Vernon, OH
reply to chronoss2009
and also lets talk about the fact that someone is probably not going to get 100megs down, much less for 4.7 hours straight.
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