Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs: | Ooooo
Didn't care for Q3 much, but I'll try this  |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | Gee there is a shock...
"Unfortunately, our initial experience with the new service wasn't all that exciting."
BooHoo. Who would have ever thought a large number of people would try it out in the first few days? |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Apparently not id? |
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Homestead, FL | umm
I have this game you can buy it used less than $5 on ebay. lol |
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studytime
join:2002-03-16
| Watch out for those strings
From the license agreement (I only included the juicy parts)
Licensee also acknowledges and agrees that PunkBuster software is self-updating, which means that future updates will, from time to time and without any notice, automatically be downloaded and installed as a normal and expected function of PunkBuster software. Licensee further acknowledges and accepts that PunkBuster software may be considered invasive. Licensee understands that PunkBuster software inspects and reports information about the computer on which it is installed to other connected computers and Licensee agrees to allow PunkBuster software to inspect and report such information about the computer on which Licensee installs PunkBuster software. Licensee understands and agrees that the information that may be inspected and reported by PunkBuster software includes, but is not limited to, Licensee's Internet Protocol Address, devices and any files residing on the hard-drive and in the memory of the computer on which PunkBuster software is installed. Licensee acknowledges and agrees that if Licensee does not want Licensor to collect and process such information, Licensee should not use the PunkBuster software. Further, Licensee consents to allow PunkBuster software to transfer actual screenshots taken of Licensee's computer during the operation of PunkBuster software for possible publication. Licensee understands that the purpose and goal of PunkBuster is to ensure a cheat-free environment for all participants in online games. Licensee agrees that the invasive nature of PunkBuster software is necessary to meet this purpose and goal. Licensee agrees that any harm or lack of privacy resulting from the installation and use of PunkBuster software is not as valuable to Licensee as the potential ability to play interactive online games with the benefits afforded by using PunkBuster software. |
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powerspec88
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Harrisonville, MO
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| reply to brianiscool
Re: umm
I still have my copy and still play it once in awhile for kicks.
I've been in the beta and it kinda sucks i think, i have my CD copy modded for better gfx and custom maps. The NV15 map is still the best map i think.
But it is fun to play when at work when it takes less than 5mins download and play w/o having to take my CD in and installing it.
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amungus
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join:2004-11-26
America
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Re: Watch out for those strings
Nothing new there, but yes, it is a rather invasive EULA...
Maybe they've improved, but there are probably still cheaters out there who can/do mess with people's games.
I have zero problem with people wanting to cheat/hack/whatever as long as they do it on their own server(s) / room(s) that don't interfere with the 'casual' gamer who just wants to play clean.
Software like this only makes those people even more upset - the idea behind it is neat; to make sure you don't get screwed by a cheater, but in reality, it really is just a very invasive piece of software that serves only to upset the people looking to cheat, and annoys everyone else. |
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Jodokast96
R.I.P Bassman442
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join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ | reply to studytime
Yeah, that does sound invasive. But given what PB does, that is what's needed. It then comes down to whether you can trust them to only do that for it's intended purpose. Haven't heard any misuse by PB yet. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
| I've been using it for a while...
...and while I'm very impressed with the very low-latency, fast etc Flash execution I'm not particularly impressed by the game itself - is this the same one (Quake 3) I used to love to play in 1999...?
It's probably just me but 10 years later it's just downright plain fuckin' dumb by today's FPS standards, even if you forget all the (boring) tactical shooters and only include the usual suspects (UT2k4, UT3, CoD/CoD:WaW, ET:QW etc.)
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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| reply to Jodokast96
Re: Watch out for those strings
said by Jodokast96  :Yeah, that does sound invasive. But given what PB does, that is what's needed. It then comes down to whether you can trust them to only do that for it's intended purpose. Haven't heard any misuse by PB yet. Exactly. Punkbuster is a buggy piece of crap and VERY ANNOYING many times - well, depending on the implementation, as America's Army is a rather shitty, slow@ss one while I never had problems with PB in ETQW - but this is the price you pay to make sure no one's cheating (thus killing the game.)
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Hasselhoff
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| YAY!!
hopefully this is just a test to see if they can do it with other games? I've always thought that ad revenue could be a reasonable way to offer games for free.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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| reply to Karl Bode
Re: Gee there is a shock...
said by Karl Bode :Apparently not id? Well, what's surprising?
id was ALWAYS a bunch of arrogant @sses in the South, no matter how nicely they tried to sell themselves - id and Carmack are one of the biggest hacks of the gaming business, I think. He might be a good coder but his games SUCKED, big time - I never seen anything more overhyped and then disappoiting, outdated game than Doom 3 at its release... unbalanced game engine (ooohhhh, lighs and shadows - boohoo), nonexistent, 90s-style scripted AI, stupid little dungeon-like maps due to its enormously tasking crappy (low-poly w/ high-rez textures and only nice lights) engine...
...who likes pontyheads, right?
Doom 3 tanked in reviews but unfortunately their disgusting marketing still sold a lot of this crap - however people took notice how shitty their game was and the biggest problem was that devs took notice too: they saw the engine sucked and went for another one.
The problem is that their games were rather tech demos for their engines - they don't fuckin' know how to make games anymore, it's quite obvious but now their engines suck too.
Literally EVERY new game uses Unreal Engine v3, id was COMPLETELY OWNED by Epic, BIG TIME.
Sour grapes: Carmack startedtalking about "mobile games" which was meant to be a stupid, lame attempt to sell his wife's completely useless company (it's a money pit so far with no return in sight whatsoever, just like Carmack's failed space rocket business.)
Now this Flash-based rehashing of the old Quake 3 is something that's interesting - but it's still just a Q3, no matter how cool the execution is...
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
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PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
| I found unreal tournament to be a much more interesting game at the time. I do think you're right that they've miraculously managed to avoid innovation at nearly every turn since the early Doom games...
This would be a far more interesting premise if the game was really a classic (Tribes I find more compelling)... |
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
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127.0.0.1
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| reply to brianiscool
Re: umm
said by brianiscool :I have this game you can buy it used less than $5 on ebay. lol too bad karl did not spam about it |
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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2 edits | reply to kamm
Re: Gee there is a shock...
said by kamm :said by Karl Bode :Apparently not id? Well, what's surprising? id was ALWAYS a bunch of arrogant @sses in the South, no matter how nicely they tried to sell themselves - id and Carmack are one of the biggest hacks of the gaming business, I think. He might be a good coder but his games SUCKED, big time - I never seen anything more overhyped and then disappoiting, outdated game than Doom 3 at its release... unbalanced game engine (ooohhhh, lighs and shadows - boohoo), nonexistent, 90s-style scripted AI, stupid little dungeon-like maps due to its enormously tasking crappy (low-poly w/ high-rez textures and only nice lights) engine... ...who likes pontyheads, right? Doom 3 tanked in reviews but unfortunately their disgusting marketing still sold a lot of this crap - however people took notice how shitty their game was and the biggest problem was that devs took notice too: they saw the engine sucked and went for another one.The problem is that their games were rather tech demos for their engines - they don't fuckin' know how to make games anymore, it's quite obvious but now their engines suck too.
Literally EVERY new game uses Unreal Engine v3, id was COMPLETELY OWNED by Epic, BIG TIME.Sour grapes: Carmack startedtalking about "mobile games" which was meant to be a stupid, lame attempt to sell his wife's completely useless company (it's a money pit so far with no return in sight whatsoever, just like Carmack's failed space rocket business.) Now this Flash-based rehashing of the old Quake 3 is something that's interesting - but it's still just a Q3, no matter how cool the execution is... Not every NEW game is using the Unreal Engine 
Oh, and his games suck? Quake was only one of the BEST games of all time |
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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| reply to Hasselhoff
Re: YAY!!
said by Hasselhoff :hopefully this is just a test to see if they can do it with other games? I've always thought that ad revenue could be a reasonable way to offer games for free. They actually had ads/billboards in BF2142 a while back, it was mostly Intel at the time, haven't played in a while so don't know if this changed |
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jackknife
join:2001-02-24
Phoenix, AZ
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1 edit | reply to Cheese
Re: Gee there is a shock...
Oh, and his games suck? Quake was only one of the BEST games of all time I don't think so. Doom was much better. Once ID tried to get into accelerated 3D, their games have not been up to par. |
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TCub
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join:2008-09-03
Olmsted Falls, OH
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| hmm
I had gotten invited to beta test this. I created an account but never took it any further. I am interested in it though, I think I'll give it a try.
It's definetely an interesting idea if they can make it work as streamlined as playing the game off a disk.
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WutanG
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join:2001-12-12
Seaford, DE
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1 edit | quake live....
I'd really like to try this....
Me and 24369 people 
# Since a lot of people are asking on IRC: yes, it's over 9000
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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| reply to studytime
Re: Watch out for those strings
Punkbuster is needed because these days every lame azzhat hacks and uses aimbots. (Sure, I really did hit you in the head with the pistol from across the map while you were flying thru the air doing a somersault and despite the walls in between us)
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Still, people hack, but PB does help.
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