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1 edit | hmmm...
Time for some Canadian style regulation of these fools!
Make them divest! |
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TKJunkMail
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1 edit |  Videotron is against crooks - oh my!!
And why shouldn't Videotron/Quebecor be against those who steal its products? Only populists who think companies should all be charitable organizations giving away its products at cost think otherwise.
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jmn1207
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The way this is written it makes P2P users seem like bad people, and P2P distribution comes across as wrong or even illegal.
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a1_Andy
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1 edit | What about the cd-dvd Levy?
»neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml#what_amount
Hey Videotron, Go collect your share from these guys »www.cpcc.ca/english/index.htm
They likely couldn't prove they have anything of value
Google "Quebecor entertainment family" damn your media is so popular with non french speaking I got 2 hits (lol) one from DSLR and one forum post........(a search of Canadian websites only yields NOTHING). |
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Re: Videotron is against crooks - oh my!!
Because they shouldn't be allowed to use their market power (in a relatively non-competitive market) as an internet provider to pursue the goals of other arms of the company. IMO they should be forced to divest.
And yet again, copyright infringement is copyright infringement, not stealing. You can feel it's as bad, you can feel it's worse, you can feel it's a lot like stealing, but you don't get to reinvent the language to suit your rhetorical ends. |
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james
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said by TKJunkMail  :And why shouldn't Videotron/Quebecor be against those who steal its products? First of all, it's not stealing. It's copyright infringement.
Secondly, in Canada it's legal to download. So even if it was "stealing" it's only the people handing the items out who are breaking the law, the people receiving the items are not breaking the law.
Thirdly, there are already many paths the copyright owners can take to charge those who violate their copyright. The only thing these proposed Three Strikes Laws will do is give them the power to ban people from the internet without any legal oversight. Here's a hint TK, if someone didnt like your posts, they would be able to file fake DMCA/other copyright complaints, and after three or four you would have your internet taken away. No judge, no jury, no nothing. |
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| A Government Monopoly asking for more Government protection?
Seriously,
Videotron is so well defended by the Quebec government it really needs no more protection.
Their caps are so ridiculously low that Piracy is impossible on their network anyways.
If we look back to the spectrum auction, the agency responsible for the auction let them outbid all(most?) every other player.
Videotron needs to be broken off from Quebecor, not given more protection.
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11 | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Videotron is against crooks - oh my!!
I hope it happens to you to get wrongfully accused 3 times in a row and then loose your internet connection. It's the only way to make you understand why such a system not only is deeply flawed but also illegal.
Adi |
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Re: A Government Monopoly asking for more Government protection?
said by El Quintron :[Videotron's] caps are so ridiculously low that Piracy is impossible on their network anyways. I won't argue for or against your statement, but it did lack any actual facts. So, I found a message concerning this.
said by Robrr in »Videotron Raises Caps :Just reading this on the CBC website: The two Vidéotron plans, Ultimate Speed Internet 30 and Ultimate Speed Internet 50, did have the drawback of relatively low monthly download limits of 30 gigabytes and 50 gigabytes, respectively.
However, the company said Wednesday it was upgrading those limits to 70 GB for Ultimate Speed Internet 30 and 100 GB for Ultimate Speed Internet 50. » www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009···oad.html
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funchords
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Re: Videotron is against crooks - oh my!!
said by TKJunkMail :And why shouldn't Videotron/Quebecor be against those who steal its products? I don't know if Canada law is any better, but I have to apply this to US law to think about it.
If Time Warner (who is on a tear recently concerning its music products) started monitoring customers lines looking for people accessing its own music, and started applying a 3-strikes policy against it, then customers would feel obligated to get permission for fair uses just to keep their Internet access. That's not right.
I'm against "stealing," too, but a lot of harm to freedom can be done in the name of "crime prevention."
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Pv8man
join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN | reply to james
LOL, thanks for the idea "James" |
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pocket rape
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Re: A Government Monopoly asking for more Government protection?
said by funchords :said by El Quintron :[Videotron's] caps are so ridiculously low that Piracy is impossible on their network anyways. I won't argue for or against your statement, but it did lack any actual facts. So, I found a message concerning this. Go look at videotron.ca HIGH price LOW b/w HUGE overage costs at 7$/gig
they are raping the peoples wallet |
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Re: Videotron is against crooks - oh my!!
LOL!!! Great one, James!!
I guess pro-capitalist perspectives don't bode too well when it can also be applied to said capitalists - LOL |
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funchords
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Re: A Government Monopoly asking for more Government protection?
said by pocket rape :
Go look at videotron.ca HIGH price LOW b/w HUGE overage costs at 7$/gig
That's obscenely abusive. |
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nigrunze
join:2009-02-14
Cote Saint-Luc, QC | reply to pocket rape
said by pocket rape :
Go look at videotron.ca HIGH price LOW b/w HUGE overage costs at 7$/gig
they are raping the peoples wallet
Actually, it's worse than that. It's $8/GB ($7.95)! |
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1 edit | Please Note the wording used.
3 strikes for P2P use.
No where in there did it say piracy.
The fact of the matter is, fighting piracy has never been the concern, controlling the method of media distribution has been.
And currently media distribution organizations make tons of money from the current system, to remove the need for them is what P2P really does and lowers the cost of distribution to basically $1.
And the punishment? Back to there system of media distribution or no media for you at all. |
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Brereton55
join:2008-04-29
Beaconsfield, QC | reply to funchords
Rape- an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse |
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Brereton55
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Beaconsfield, QC | my whole msg wasn't posted  |
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Fireblade
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The CRTC is stupid and worthless but... They aren't as stupid and worthless to actually let this through, so we're safe. |
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El Quintron
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| I doubt they'll let this fly or the internet Radio Proposal.
The fact is they're not a proactive organisation, it will not step up against a company's right to self determination, but it also takes a lot of lobbying on behalf of a company to get it to rule in it's (the company's) favour.
It's not really in their interests to let this ruling fly.
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