DivineDark
join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs: | Cheap skates
I guess ATT's final offer wasn't so final after all. Still though 8.8 percent over 4 years is chicken feed. |
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verolom
join:2002-03-23
Eagleville, PA | Agree. However they get to keep their jobs and that's a big accomplishment these days. |
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DivineDark
join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK
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| Well it is an accomplishment but it isn't because the company is so successful.Its only natural that the employees that help it be so successful should get a fair share. They shouldn't just settle for keeping a job unless they work for a failing company or one that does not turn billions of profit. I hope they never settle for just being employed. Settling for anything less than what you deserve is selling yourself short. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to verolom
Well, lets see how many actually 'keep' their jobs over the year. |
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kremithefrog
join:2008-06-27
Albany, GA | Relief?
"monitoring and quota relief"? What is exactly does that mean? Less quality control? |
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truthisme
@sbcglobal.net | Good look for CWA
But dat was chicken feed for at&t because IBEW not going thats easliy for its Uverse employees. Wait...Its not over for at&t. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
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Re: Cheap skates
said by DivineDark  :Still though 8.8 percent over 4 years is chicken feed. I dont really see how you can say that, especially in this economy. ANY kind of a raise these days is good.
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SHABAZZ
join:2008-07-13
Seattle, WA
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Re: Relief?
Most sells associates have monthly quotes. It sounds like they’re going to either lower the employee’s quotes or not take disciplinary action when those numbers aren’t reached. And about the monitoring some managers ride their associates’ very hard viewing sells on a day by day basis. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
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Re: Cheap skates
said by wifi4milez :said by DivineDark :Still though 8.8 percent over 4 years is chicken feed. I dont really see how you can say that, especially in this economy. ANY kind of a raise these days is good. good for a year maybe...but after inflation kicks in from all of the paper the fed is printing, that pay raise will disipate quick. These people will then be locked in to a wage that won't keep up with inflation. However..I understand this move. |
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TomMac
Premium
join:2008-03-23
Dayton, OH | AT&T, Unions Strike Tentative Deal
This is only the beginning. I believe the technicians, operators and some engineering contracts expire in the fall. |
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stevephl
join:2000-11-27
Colorado Springs, CO
·Comcast
| This clearly illustrates why unions have lived passed their death time, they epitomize socialism as well as being anti-competitive and the free market.
It is high time we disband labor unions in this country and get back to the free market place that allowed this great country to prosper so well. Is it any wonder so many jobs in this country have left our shores? |
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st7860
join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA | reply to verolom
Re: Cheap skates
i hereby and solemnly declare +1 |
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winsyrstrife
River City Bounce
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Brooklyn, NY
clubs: | reply to stevephl
Re: AT&T, Unions Strike Tentative Deal
Techies don't have unions as far as I can tell, but many of our jobs also went overseas. |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to DivineDark
Re: Cheap skates
They didn't want to take a beating out in the media.
Any business not flying under the radar risk being put to shame by the commies amongst us... |
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kack
@sbcglobal.net | reply to winsyrstrife
Re: AT&T, Unions Strike Tentative Deal
Some of you don't know the difference between mobility and core contracts for landline techs..Those are up April 4th |
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DivineDark
join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK
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said by stevephl :This clearly illustrates why unions have lived passed their death time, they epitomize socialism as well as being anti-competitive and the free market. It is high time we disband labor unions in this country and get back to the free market place that allowed this great country to prosper so well. Is it any wonder so many jobs in this country have left our shores? Could you please clarify this illustration you mention of why unions should go away? Are against fair wages and treatment for employees? That's kind of like saying you are against the American worker because unions are voted in by the people that work there. I live in a right to work state so people don't have to pay union dues if they don't want to but still get the benefits of union representation. In our district we have over 85% paying membership. If that isn't a sign unions are wanted and needed I don't know what to tell you.
On a side note it's an amazing feeling to be a part of an organization that gives me a little nobody, a voice in my work place. I don't feel like I am a slave to "tha man" because I do have some control of things that go on inside my job. If something that's happening I don't like or I think is not fair I no longer have to just accept it or quit. There is a process that i follow and I can have the union fight for me if need be. I have seen it work out in the employees favor many times. |
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DivineDark
join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs:
1 edit | reply to en102
Re: Cheap skates
said by en102 :Well, lets see how many actually 'keep' their jobs over the year. My job is protected from layoffs. If a layoff if announced they layoff the people with the lowest seniority first. So the longer I'm there the less chance I have to be laid off. Even before that happens they have to offer another job inside the company and my pay is protected. If these conditions cant be met and I'm actually laid off I will get payed for the life of the union contract by the union or until rehired by the company. What non union job offers those protections? |
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caddyroger
Premium
join:2001-06-11
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1 edit | reply to stevephl
Re: AT&T, Unions Strike Tentative Deal
What would you do if you boss came up to you and said starting Monday you pay will be cut 40%.
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
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·Sprint Mobile Broa..
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said by stevephl :This clearly illustrates why unions have lived passed their death time, they epitomize socialism as well as being anti-competitive and the free market. It is high time we disband labor unions in this country and get back to the free market place that allowed this great country to prosper so well. Is it any wonder so many jobs in this country have left our shores? unions are fine, as long as they're voluntary (ie: the government doesn't force you to be a part of the union), and they have no special powers granted unto them by the government...in the same light, a company should be able to stipulate that their workers, under no circumstances, should be allowed to form a union.
Unions are fine, as long as they have 0 access to governmental power (same goes for corporations). |
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Tarheels Fan
Premium
join:2006-01-05 | reply to DivineDark
Re: Cheap skates
Not a bad deal - until the company itself is imploding due to such contracts. |
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