barn25
join:2005-11-17
Springfield, IL | America will never be fully wired
Hmm from my experience in the matter having both lived in cities and country towns id say about 30 to 40 percent dont have broadband. When it comes to a country as a whole |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
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| Maybe america should stop tryiing to be the most wired.
And be the least wired. AKA all wireless, I recall seeing that verizon was working on getting 60m down to it wireless costumers, maybe every1 should. Then they would not have to pay to run wires everywhere, they could just put up a tower where ever the main internet "hubs" are. Easier to maintain from a certain point of view, you do not have to look for a break in the miles of wiring just on the tower, or in the stuff going to said tower. |
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wifi4milez
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join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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| said by me1212  :And be the least wired. AKA all wireless, I recall seeing that verizon was working on getting 60m down to it wireless costumers, maybe every1 should. Then they would not have to pay to run wires everywhere, they could just put up a tower where ever the main internet "hubs" are. Easier to maintain from a certain point of view, you do not have to look for a break in the miles of wiring just on the tower, or in the stuff going to said tower. I think that is what will end up happening. The main reason this country is less 'wired' than some European locales is the sheer size of the place. There are some (many) areas of this country that are so remote that bears outnumber people 10 to 1. Places like that will never be wired, nor should they. Even in semi rural areas, it doesnt necessarily make sense to spend millions of dollars to provide access. With new wireless technologies slowly becoming viable (LTE, Wimax, etc.) I suspect that within the next 20 years we will see a shift from wired connections (cable, DSL, fiber) to wireless in all but the urban centers and surrounding areas.
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | reply to me1212
Is all of Russia wired ? Wireless is the way to go in Rural areas. LTE is going to really bring the internet to everyone. |
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Never happen
Rural areas will never be fully wired (in my lifetime)
Comcast said (all of their customers not every one in the US) |
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rfhar
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join:2001-03-26
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| said by DarkLogix :Rural areas will never be fully wired (in my lifetime) Agree and if someone who really is honest would look I'm sure they would find most of rural America is on dial-up.
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
·VOIPo
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Re: Maybe america should stop tryiing to be the most wired.
you too are both correct, IMHO. We need more wireless for 2 reasons. 1: easier to deploy just put up a tower and not run miles of lines, but still get service to people maybe 12mi away if you do it right. 2: less outages due to broken lines, some1 digin a hole for road work ect. will not be able to cut the lines and take out service for a lot of people. |
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verolom
join:2002-03-23
Eagleville, PA | reply to rfhar
Re: Never happen
Well, consider two points:
1. They did get wired for phone service at some point.
2. Maybe the whole point of living so remotely is that these people do not want to be connected. I often envy that. |
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PastTense5
join:2007-05-15 | reply to rfhar
While rural America has lower broadband penetration, it is not true most of it is still on dial-up. I live in a town of 300 people and have 2MB cable. People who live within 10 miles of town can also get 500 kb DSL. |
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Nuts
join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH | reply to me1212
Re: Maybe america should stop tryiing to be the most wired.
Yes, and at a minimum of $60 a month capped at 5gb, it's even more profitable. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Not ALL wireless ISP have a cap my fixed WISP has not cap and I now there are some mobile that have no cap. You just have to look for them, I can post a link to 1 mobile ISP with no cap if u want. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by me1212 :And be the least wired. AKA all wireless, I recall seeing that verizon was working on getting 60m down to it wireless costumers, maybe every1 should. Then they would not have to pay to run wires everywhere, they could just put up a tower where ever the main internet "hubs" are. Easier to maintain from a certain point of view, you do not have to look for a break in the miles of wiring just on the tower, or in the stuff going to said tower. As long as Verizon insists on capping usage at 5 GB a month and then charging $256 per GB then 60 Mbps down is useless. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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Re: Never happen
said by verolom :Well, consider two points: 1. They did get wired for phone service at some point. Because the governemnt made a point of making sure that happned.
2. Maybe the whole point of living so remotely is that these people do not want to be connected. I often envy that. the notion that people living in the boonies have no interest in broadband is obtuse. I know plenty of people in the boonies that would LVE to give their money to ANYONE that would provide them with broadband. In fact logic would dictate if you live out in the boonies you want to have access to broadband even more than cityfolk. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to BF69
Re: Maybe america should stop tryiing to be the most wired.
You do know you can get verizon with out a cap, right?
And after the 60m comes out the cap will most likely be uped. Maybe even done away with to gt costumer from other WISPs, like FiOS did with wired. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
1 edit | said by me1212 :You do know you can get verizon with out a cap, right? And after the 60m comes out the cap will most likely be uped. Maybe even done away with to gt costumer from other WISPs, like FiOS did with wired. Um you were talking Verizon wireless. Not FiOS.
Verizon wirless data plans are caped at 5 GB a month. |
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jester121
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to barn25
Re: America will never be fully wired
Do you work for the FCC? That sounds like one of their metrics.  |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to BF69
Re: Maybe america should stop tryiing to be the most wired.
I know how to get wireless(verizon) with no cap. |
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Estragon
join:2003-06-20
Greenville, NH
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Except that wireless doesn't really work either
The big problem with wireless is that the technologies currently in wide use require a line of sight between the user and the access point. If you have line of sight, it works great. And if there is no line of sight, it doesn't work at all. 
Big problem #1 is trees. Lotsa trees. We need 1 mile links that work through a full mile of trees.
Big problem #2 is hills. And other terrain.
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | not all some can be, cell phones don't need a direct LoS(well mine doesn't anyway) they make antennas to increase the power of the signal, so some times you can still get it. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
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Re: Never happen
said by PastTense5 :People who live within 10 miles of town can also get 500 kb DSL. I guess you don't live in Verizon territory, then. 
Our neighborhood is less than 5 miles from the town center, but outside the Comcast footprint. So Verizon won't bother to provide DSL. |
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