 RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| Is this really good for Comcast?
Being number one in the churn-heavy, low-profit residential market is like being the #1 discount airline. Business lines are where it's at revenue-wise, and Comcast's offerings there are pretty lame.
I wouldn't be surprised if AT&T and Verizon weren't secretly cheering them on. |
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  NY Tel Premium join:2004-04-09 Smithtown, NY | Does not bode well
No reference to Karl's name but this does not bode well for independent voip companies does it now? |
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 me1212
join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO
·VOIPo
| ya never know. if they(smaller VoIPs) did more advertising(like on the tv) it would most likely help. and once vonage fails(we all know it will happen look at their stocks[well the last time I checked]) A better independent VoIP will come along(which may already be here). I know there are of VoIPs way better than CCDV(well in tech support and friendliness) reliability depends on where you live some CC areas are most stable than others(my grand-parents said it[cc] was not doing so well on up time not too long ago). But there will always be some non-cableco VoIPs, if people want them. |
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 Lion84
join:2007-08-10 Marietta, GA 1 edit | reply to NY Tel When our Triple Play intro package is up, I'm considering going to an independent VOIP company. Without the Triple Play intro pricing, Comcast Digital Voice is rather expensive. |
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  woody7 Premium join:2000-10-13 Torrance, CA
·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
| hmmmmm....
Then they should be treated like the "telcos" 
Taxed to hell..... -- BlooMe |
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  ptrowski Got Helix? Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT clubs:
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| Bingo. Time for all of the fee's and taxes. -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
Have you been touched by his noodly appendage? »www.venganza.org |
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  Rob In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| said by ptrowski :Bingo. Time for all of the fee's and taxes. Who are you trying to punish, Comcast or the consumer? |
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 Rob2647
join:2008-08-12 Rochester, MI | When the promotion runs out
we'll see how many people ditch digital voice. There are plenty of cheaper VOIP carriers out there. Why bother with comcasts bloaded, traffic shaped network. |
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  ptrowski Got Helix? Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT clubs:
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| reply to Rob Re: hmmmmm....
said by Rob :said by ptrowski :Bingo. Time for all of the fee's and taxes. Who are you trying to punish, Comcast or the consumer? Comcast. Personally I would not want it to happen, but at what point does a company no longer get away saying they are not a "phone company" also?
My smaller indie voip companies get charged for it, so why is Comcast so special? -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
Have you been touched by his noodly appendage? »www.venganza.org |
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  Brad B Premium join:2005-07-07 Everett, WA
·Comcast
| reply to ptrowski said by ptrowski :Bingo. Time for all of the fee's and taxes. Do you realize what you're saying? Taxes and fees get passed onto the consumer. I don't want any new taxes and fees. |
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 rob316
join:2005-10-17 Carteret, NJ
·Comcast
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Rob2647 Re: When the promotion runs out
said by Rob2647 :we'll see how many people ditch digital voice. There are plenty of cheaper VOIP carriers out there. Why bother with comcasts bloaded, traffic shaped network. +1 |
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  ptrowski Got Helix? Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT clubs:
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| reply to Brad B Re: hmmmmm....
said by Brad B :said by ptrowski :Bingo. Time for all of the fee's and taxes. Do you realize what you're saying? Taxes and fees get passed onto the consumer. I don't want any new taxes and fees. Of course I do. But again Viatalk, Voipo, etc. are all smaller indie voip companies get hit with them. Why is Comcast or any cable company excempt? -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
Have you been touched by his noodly appendage? »www.venganza.org |
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  woody7 Premium join:2000-10-13 Torrance, CA | reply to Brad B if you walk like a duck, and you quack like a duck, then you must be a duck.....you can't have it both ways....also did you see the winking smiley? -- BlooMe |
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  en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to woody7 Living in SoCal, I already pay enough taxes. I don't need any more. -- Canada = Hollywood North |
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  Rob In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| reply to ptrowski said by ptrowski :Comcast. Personally I would not want it to happen, but at what point does a company no longer get away saying they are not a "phone company" also? My smaller indie voip companies get charged for it, so why is Comcast so special? It was a rhetorical question. You would only be punishing the customers.
How can you ever advocate raising taxes?
You should be advocating lower taxes and fees on independent VOIP companies. Never advocate raising taxes to "punish" a company - it never works. |
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  jsz0
join:2008-01-23 Jewett City, CT | reply to Rob2647 Re: When the promotion runs out
Comcast has been offering voice service for quite a long time. The vast majority of their customers are not getting any introductory discount at this point -- just bundle package savings. |
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 jester121 Premium join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | reply to Rob2647 Traffic shaping is a good thing for VOIP.  |
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  ptrowski Got Helix? Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT clubs:
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| reply to Rob Re: hmmmmm....
said by Rob :said by ptrowski :Comcast. Personally I would not want it to happen, but at what point does a company no longer get away saying they are not a "phone company" also? My smaller indie voip companies get charged for it, so why is Comcast so special? It was a rhetorical question. You would only be punishing the customers. How can you ever advocate raising taxes? You should be advocating lower taxes and fees on independent VOIP companies. Never advocate raising taxes to "punish" a company - it never works. Lowering them as we all know will NEVER happen. Let's be real here. Once they get their hands into the potential money source the states and the feds would never let it go.
I am a realist here. I would LOVE to see them lowered. I have seen the indies protest in to no avail. They then either go out of business or pass it along.
So Comcast can get all the publicity, press releases etc bragging about it but then turn around and say "but we are different"? Come on.
Again, I don't advocate adding them, it is more of a statement saying at what point can they get away with using the "but we are not REALLY a phone company" excuse? -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
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 macroff
join:2001-02-23 Sandy, UT
| So....
Doesn't really seem to be hurting Qwest financially, though. When you look at the total number of lines (residential/business pots, dsl, wireless, video), it hasn't changed hardly at all over the past two years. The ARUP is increasing per customer (up 21% over the past two years) and revenue is level. Qwest is not hurting because of this and is nowhere near dead. |
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 me1212
join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to ptrowski Re: hmmmmm....
I agree CC should NOT be exempt. I would rather have the smaller VoIPs not have taxes like CC, but if they(smaller VoIPs) must have the taxes CC should too. |
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