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Comments on news posted 2009-03-26 12:07:30: Last year, consumer advocacy group Public Knowledge penned a piece that was by and large ignored by the Steve Jobs-obsessed technology media. ..

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DaneJasper
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Bravo for uncovering bogus "interest" groups

Well done Karl!

Clearly, we do need competition. It's amazing that so many people don't understand how important competition is.

-Dane


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Pot Meet Kettle

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baineschile
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I am always tired of Michigan getting butchered on a map. I wish we lived in a nice square state like Wyoming.

Cmon people, we are a MITTEN


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Re: Bravo for uncovering bogus "interest" groups

But should competition be subsidized by the government? Thats a step towards socialization.

Personally, if I started an ISP, i would target areas that would cost me the least amount to wire, with the most amount of homes passed (potential customers). The answer to this? Cities!...and densley populated suburbs around those cities.

Rural living and city living both have advantages and disadvantages; you dont see a lot of competition in any industry in small towns (one walmart, 2 or so chain restruants). Why should broadband be different?


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Re: Pot Meet Kettle

said by pnh102 See Profile :

The pork bill itself is a con.
Do you mean to imply that flushing trillions of dollars down the toilet is somehow bad??
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Re: Bravo for uncovering bogus "interest" groups

What is the answer to the cost of wiring? Wireless, if someone were to put up a town that serves the city good got the city served, and if the people on the outskirts of town can get the signal got them served too.

And if the Gov is going to give them money to wire more anyway, y should they not use it for that? Its not like the yr not getting money, if they get it to wire more thats what the yshould use it for. I still say wireless would be easier.


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Re: Michigan

Not quite a mitten.


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It treasures what?

From: »www.connectednation.org/who_we_are/

quote:
INTEGRITY. Connected Nation treasures its corporate credibility. Employees possess a passion for the corporate mission, honesty without hesitation, and respect for all people. Employees maintain a good attitude, a strong work ethic and a spirit for community.
Corporate and credibility, my favorite oxymoron.
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Karl Bode
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Re: Michigan

oven-mitt-esque?


Karl Bode
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Re: It treasures what?

Do we know what year it was where words no longer meant anything? They really should have sent out a memo.


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 Claim Otherwise...

There is no claim, at this point it is known fact that Kentucky doesn't have 100% coverage. And at that point I doubt Kentucky will ever have complete coverage. We're too rural a state for just about all ISPs want to go anywhere outside the few cities and several towns. I'd love to see these articles calling out Connected Nation and Connected Kentucky on their bs garner more public attention.


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I dont count the UP. As far as I am concered, they are a hybrid of packer fans/oiler fans (just kidding and BBR members from Sault St. Marie!)


baineschile
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Re: Bravo for uncovering bogus "interest" groups

You make a valid point, but lets say we do start an all wireless ISP. If a customer has our product, and its not working properly, we would have to send out a technician to repair it. Obivously, rural areas are still harder to access.


bit_junkie

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Of course they don't....

want the real data to be known, that would mean they would actually have to use any money they get from the government to start building out their networks and start serving places they deem not to be profitable, they just want to pocket the money and move on to something more important, the continued fleecing of our government for the good of the corporate coffers.
No cable or telco should get anymore of our money, by that i mean us taxpayers until each and everyone of them has 100% verifiable and accurate data.


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Re: It treasures what?

I believe the Dutch East India Company was supposed to be responsible for that paperwork...

me1212

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Re: Bravo for uncovering bogus "interest" groups

Thats why wireless costs more than wired, WISPs take that(repair men) into account.

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said by baineschile See Profile :

But should competition be subsidized by the government? Thats a step towards socialization.

Personally, if I started an ISP, i would target areas that would cost me the least amount to wire, with the most amount of homes passed (potential customers). The answer to this? Cities!...and densley populated suburbs around those cities.

Rural living and city living both have advantages and disadvantages; you dont see a lot of competition in any industry in small towns (one walmart, 2 or so chain restruants). Why should broadband be different?
At one time, celluar service was regulated by the government. There was a requirement that there be an "A" and "B" system in every market. The "A" system company could NOT have any interest in the local wireline service. The "B" system could have an interest in the local wireline service. Lease rates were also regulated so the "B" system couldn't out price the "A" on the same connections. In my area, the "A" system was Celluar One and the "B" system was Bell Atlantic Mobile.

Sometimes mandated competition is a good thing.


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Bravo for uncovering bogus "interest" groups. You mean like Public Knowledge? Brodsky wants a big chunk of that $350 million for his own organization and that may be his underlying bias against Connected Nation.
Public Knowledge has argued that they're derailing more serious broadband mapping efforts already underway in a number of States. That's a big deal, since included in the $7 billion dollar broadband stimulus plan is $350 million to be spent on mapping.

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Re: Claim Otherwise...

If you count satellite broadband Kentucky and the entire country already is 100% covered.

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Re: Bravo for uncovering bogus "interest" groups

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Bravo for uncovering bogus "interest" groups. You mean like Public Knowledge? Brodsky wants a big chunk of that $350 million for his own organization
Well put.
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