ninjatutle
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| Thievery should not be tolerated!
These types of criminal behavior have gone on for way too long. Time for a some real enforcement...
I don't steal music, cable, wifi, movies, etc. Seeing people do it openly is a slap in the face of all the law abating citizens who have to pay more because of crooks. |
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justbits
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1 edit | Court order, but...
We will never suspend, terminate or sanction any customer without some sort of legal process, like a court order.
-AT&T ... but, we reserve the right to process any information you send over our network for wiretaps and implicit opt-in personalized advertising campaigns. |
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Re: Thievery should not be tolerated!
Agreed, but the inherent problem is, that for years and years and years, musicians/actors have made millions for doing, what the public percieves as little to no work. Do you remember harmony house where a 9 track CD was 18.99? And that was in 1997.
The entertainment industry has gouged customers for years. Until these get significantly cheaper, people will still continue to pirate.
Not that i agree with stealing, and I was a HUGE fan of Napster (T3 connection freshman year of college in 2000, when napster was at its height), but why would anyone pay 20 bucks for a CD that they only like 1 song on?
All I am saying is, the music/movie business needs to transform their business model to adapt to changing technologies significantly faster than they already are. Its nice to be able to download via itunes, but DRM is making life miserable. |
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said by ninjatutle  :These types of criminal behavior have gone on for way too long. Time for a some real enforcement... I don't steal music, cable, wifi, movies, etc. Seeing people do it openly is a slap in the face of all the law abating citizens who have to pay more because of crooks. Good for you, have a Coke and a smile. What do you want a medal?
And by the way, maybe you should check the words you use. Law abating?
transitive verb
1 a: to put an end to b: nullify 1
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RadioDoc
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Re: Court order, but...
Source? Or are you just thread crapping?
I've been a customer for almost 9 years now through three different incarnations and I have yet to hear of anyone being booted off for file trading or even running servers for that matter. In this case I believe him.
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RadioDoc
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Re: Thievery should not be tolerated!
I saw that too. Gave me a good chuckle. 
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said by ninjatutle :These types of criminal behavior have gone on for way too long. Time for a some real enforcement... I don't steal music, cable, wifi, movies, etc. Seeing people do it openly is a slap in the face of all the law abating citizens who have to pay more because of crooks. O give me a fucking break. The RIAA and MPAA is robbing you blindly and its not because of p2p downloader's or Usenet. Have you even bothered to look at the price of a case of blank cds/dvds, compared to the cost of one CD soundtrack at retail? Or a DVD/Bluray movie?
Not to mention the tactics the RIAA uses. Anybody can get these, so its not a "slap in the face" |
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anon2
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let's start the copyright vs stealing argument again... |
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Re: Thievery should not be tolerated!
I agree with your point about a business model change. Personally, the extortion tactics employed by the RIAA have led to my refusal to buy CDs.
But I do think theres truth in pieces of their argument. Unfortunately, they kill those truths by not paying the artists that they're supposed defending. With that being said....I would like to know just how they plan to differentiate file transfers from RIAA artists to independant labels that encourage this without the use of DRM.
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said by ninjatutle :These types of criminal behavior have gone on for way too long. Time for a some real enforcement... I don't steal music, cable, wifi, movies, etc. Seeing people do it openly is a slap in the face of all the law abating citizens who have to pay more because of crooks. Yeah. That must be it. It must have nothing to do with anime not being held to the greatness that it is considered in Japan.
Here is a screen shot of an anime I seed with frequency. I updated my key to the torrent so it is shows only a small amount seeded.
How are fans suppose to see this anime that was released years and years ago in Japan but not in the USA or anywhere else if it is not for fansubs? MAGIC? 
I find it hard to believe things like this can be considered illegal. It is supply being nonexistent when there is demand. How are you paying more for a product that is not in physical stores or online stores? Magic again?
Get off your erroneous thinking. |
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CanadianIron
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Beverly Hills, CA | scary stuff
So they send a FUD email. Of course in some cases it might accomplish something, but overall probably not much will come of this. |
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Re: again
said by anon2 :
let's start the copyright vs stealing argument again...
There are those blind followers who do not see the flaws with a law and will worship any law like ninjatutle up there. This is an argument that cannot easily end. |
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Re: Thievery should not be tolerated!
said by ninjatutle :These types of criminal behavior have gone on for way too long. Time for a some real enforcement... I don't steal music, cable, wifi, movies, etc. Seeing people do it openly is a slap in the face of all the law abating citizens who have to pay more because of crooks. And the ISPs may be testing internal procedures in the likely event that Congress(dominated by pols funded by Hollywood types) passes a 3 strike law in some form.
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rivalman
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He doesn't follow the law of good grammar. lol
Am' I missing something here? Should the RIAA not be paying the ISP's for their time and work? I mean, if I come to you to enforce payment from someone who owes me money, don't you want a cut?
Why does the RIAA think that they can force someone else to do their dirty work? They should be paying the ISP's for everything they are asking them to do, not to mention how this will hurt the image of said ISP.
The whole music industry needs to be re-done, however... I still see a lot of musicians making way more money than the average hard working North American. Not saying it's right to take music like this, but, it's easy, cheap and much more available to the 10-16 year old kids who don't have a lot of pocket money. Of course they are going to take the easy way out, the music industry needs to find a way to compete with that.
My two cents...
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S_engineer
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Re: Court order, but...
This may all be talk to avoid the appearance of being 3rd party accomplices. |
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ninjatutle
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Re: Thievery should not be tolerated!
said by ptrowski :And by the way, maybe you should check the words you use. Law abating? transitive verb 1 a: to put an end to b: nullify 1 If only you practiced what you preached!  |
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pika2000
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Shouldn't ISP be just ISP? I don't think ISPs want to go this path themselves. I think the problem is congress that are happily fed by the entertainment industry to pass laws that only benefit their own business model. In fact, ISPs should protest and appeal any laws like this. I mean if they have to boot people off, that means less customer for them, thus less monthly payment going to their pocket. |
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Up to $12.00(or even more) dollars for a CD? No thanks!
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Re: Thievery should not be tolerated!
said by ninjatutle :said by ptrowski :And by the way, maybe you should check the words you use. Law abating? transitive verb 1 a: to put an end to b: nullify 1 If only you practiced what you preached! Don't get mad at me, chief. For someone who has such a solid stance against pirating works I would have thought that you would have used the correct word, not one that has the opposite meaning.
Way to go, at least you got your "Thieves stink" as the first post, even if you did contradict yourself.
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| He is wrong on that account as well. It is not thievery, but copyright infringement.
To continue to call it that demonstrates an inability to think beyond parroting the usual media cartel propaganda.
And calling it that is assuming that the doctrine of a download equalling a lost sale holds true. When in fact this has been proven false.
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