Pizz
Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| The other MSO's
Need to be told the same thing. Hybrid Fiber-Coax - is not FTTH/FTTP. I guess it's rough, seeing their subs leave by the droves to FIOS 
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Darth Fiber
Premium
join:2005-12-16
Pompton Lakes, NJ | Re: Advanced Fiber Network claim
Just because Cablevision doesn't run fiber directly to the home does not mean that they don't have a more advanced network than other companies. The network is more than just television and internet for residential customers. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | BBB?
LMAO! The BBB doesn't do anything but extort money from their so called "members"
Worthless group. |
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metachronos
join:2005-01-26
Green Bay, WI | TWC
Maybe they can get TWC next, I'm sick of their misleading ads. |
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bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to hottboiinnc
Re: BBB?
said by hottboiinnc  :LMAO! The BBB doesn't do anything but extort money from their so called "members" Worthless group. Personally I think Cablevision is wrong for exaggerating their claims regarding fiber and speed. As a previous customer of CV long gone to FIOS I believe FIOS will beat CV hands down for delivering the purchased speeds, especially at 3pm to 9pm. Cablevision cannot quote a speed and guarantee it here on congested Long Island.
As far as the BBB is concerned I agree they are a waste. A business can have a dozen law suits pending and the BBB knows nothing about them and gives the business a "nothing known" rating |
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Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
| More distortions
Cablevision ads say they're faster than Verizon's "High Speed Internet", which is VZ's DSL service. Most people would think Cablevision is saying they're faster than FiOS.
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Bit
Premium
join:2009-02-19
00000 | reply to Pizz
Re: The other MSO's
I would venture to guess that Verizon is losing way more POTS subs to cable than they're getting video subs from cable. |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | Punishment
They should be forced to watch 200 hours of the local access tv channel.... |
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vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA | Verizon can take care of it themselves
How about a few commercials that highlight the difference between FTTH and simply a fiber backbone? |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | Well it is FTTN
Our node is within walking distance, and the grey boxes are popping up all over town.
The semantics game is silly. I get speeds comparable to FTTH providers' offerings. I don't see the problem. |
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kfbg2
@myvzw.com
| Cable Ads
It really doesn't matter much what they say. Its what they can deliver that counts. I'll take my Cablevision with Boost service over Fios any day. My actual throughput on cable exceeds any of my neighbors on FIOS. Cablevision has done an excellent job managing thier network in my area. I can easily get 20 Mbps downloads. |
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jaw2012
join:2008-08-01
019405
1 edit | reply to Bit
Re: The other MSO's
said by Bit :I would venture to guess that Verizon is losing way more POTS subs to cable than they're getting video subs from cable. I don't know why that would be. When I think of cable I don't see any decisive positives with Voice service whereas I see over 100HD channels starring me in the face when I compare Cable TV vs. Fios. Plus most people don't mix services, so TV service should win out over voice service one would think.
(yeah yeah I know TW has 100 in NYC but as a whole cable HD is sorely lacking)
Nuff said. |
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jaw2012
join:2008-08-01
019405 | they know what we all know...
Most people are for whatever reason, ignorant when it comes to this technology.
Most people just want 100+HD and they want it to work as advertised. Fios wins again.
Nuff said. |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to Eat Me
Re: Well it is FTTN
said by Eat Me :Our node is within walking distance, and the grey boxes are popping up all over town. The semantics game is silly. I get speeds comparable to FTTH providers' offerings. I don't see the problem. For now, perhaps, but it has nowhere near the potential capacity of current FTTH infrastructure. My ONT is on the other side of the wall from my router, and I don't have 50-500 other users trying to access the same node. Just because you happen to be next to it does not make you immune to possible "last mile" congestion.
There are some excellent quality cable networks out there, such as Comcast's Twin Cities region. And there are people out there with near perfect service that don't rely on FTTH, but overall I have to say that it is much more than just a silly game of semantics. And while it may not be accurate to say that FiOS is more advanced, it certainly can handle a far greater distribution of bandwidth, especially with regards to uploads. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to metachronos
Re: TWC
and what do you want them to do? Give their BBB rating a C instead of a B?
You must not know how the BBB or any of their agencies. Full of nothing but a bunch of money grabbing crooks. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to bgraham
Re: BBB?
What gets me about the BBB they'll make everything go away in their system if you "join" or if you're a "member" already any known lawsuits never make it to the system (basically what you said). |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to jmn1207
Re: Well it is FTTN
i have "perfect" HFC cable service. always hit at or just below what my advertised speed is |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to jaw2012
Re: The other MSO's
you can't compare cable as a whole to VZ's HD line up. That's just crazy and comparing Apples to Oranges. You have to compare provider to provider. Not Industry to Provider. |
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jwersan
R.I.P. Mom, Brian, Ziggy, and Max.
Premium
join:2004-12-20
Port Jefferson Station, NY
clubs:
·Optimum Online
| reply to Darth Fiber
Re: Advanced Fiber Network claim
said by Darth Fiber :Just because Cablevision doesn't run fiber directly to the home does not mean that they don't have a more advanced network than other companies. The network is more than just television and internet for residential customers. Excuse me??
Hybrid fiber network, or fiber to the home....
Hmmmm, I wonder which ACTUALLY delivers faster speeds, and which can consistently deliver them??
I would also add, which has a better PQ than the other...
And to add the FINAL nail in the coffin, which company offering high speed internet/TV/Phone, OWNS a huge amount of the internet backbone that all data travels on????
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to Bit
Re: The other MSO's
Let's see now...losing a low-margin POTS line to cable vs. getting a fat cash cow video subscriber from cable. I think I'd take that deal.
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