baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | Personally...
I love caps.
Just kidding, but i know this subject riles people up more than any other on this site.
100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. |
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hayabusa3303
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 ·AT&T Southeast
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| said by baineschile  :100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. Even Tw business class has caps of the same usage. so how would business class help again? |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
clubs: | vote with your money.
Disconnect and tell them to goto hell. |
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atuarre
Here come the drums
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Lake Charles, LA
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| RE
I think in a situation where a company is going to metered, where someone will pay overages, they ought to give residential users at least, the option to enable additional bandwidth if they exceed the cap instead of just switching to overage charges or we will see situations like in the wireless industry where users go over the cap and get the bill and then are shocked and refuse to pay. |
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Sir Meowmix III
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| Not a money grab? Right...
Blatant money grab. Not everyone likes being turned upside down and shaken for their pocket change. |
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
·VOIPo
| reply to baineschile
Re: Personally...
said by baineschile :100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. Really?? Lets see, 4GB per movie on average gives a family around 25 movies per month not including anything else they might want to download. So a family that likes to watch different movies at the same time, like to play online games which require large downloads at times, and do web browsing and maybe upload pictures of the family to a web site should be on a business class account or they are just pirates stealing from others.
I like your thoughts. NOT! Maybe you should go to work for these crooked companies. I am sure they would love to have you. |
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DrunkenClam
join:2008-09-29
·Cogeco Cable
| The prices of the tiers make this even more of a horror
Also keep in mind the pro package is 74.95 a month. Mix that with over charges and using something like 120 gigs a month would cost 94.95 a month plus Canada has 13 percent tax on that!
So Cogeco wants us to pay 107.24 for using 120 gigs a month. That is just way overpriced.
Don't get me wrong though, this is much better then what they did before and just terminate your service if you go over and no questions asked. That was a bastard thing to do. |
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Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
·Comcast
·Embarq
| reply to hayabusa3303
Re: vote with your money.
 Unfortunately many customers do not have a choice. It is either Cable Broadband or Outer Space. In many areas in this county many customers cannot get DSL at all or DSL above 768K. I guess the cable television industry should produce a new TV Program called WE LOVE BEING A MONOPOLY. Today's program is MONOPOLY sucking you dry. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
clubs:
·QuantumVoice
·AT&T Southeast
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to ropeguru
Re: Personally...
said by ropeguru :said by baineschile :100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. I like your thoughts. NOT! Maybe you should go to work for these crooked companies. I am sure they would love to have you. Then when there numbers go down so much between disconnects and non payments for over usage they will FIRE HIS ASS and say we made a mistake. |
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dsldude08
Premium,VIP
join:2008-01-03
La Crosse, WI
·CenturyLink
| reply to Sir Meowmix III
Re: Not a money grab? Right...
What they don't realize is that nowadays, most people don't have any extra pocket change. So what they will soon find out is that they are taking a turn for the worst and this business model will not work. It's taking what we have now and going like ten steps backwards if you ask me. Money, money, money... |
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dsldude08
Premium,VIP
join:2008-01-03
La Crosse, WI
·CenturyLink
1 edit | reply to atuarre
Re: RE
I agree. If it's going to happen, they need to follow the wireless model for minutes used on cell phones (different tiers, i.e. 100GB, 200GB, 300GB, etc for so much per month). But, look now, they are starting to go with Unlimited. But wait, so, cell phone companies are jumping ahead on voice minutes being unlimited (giving the option), but ISP's and others are going backwards here...doesn't make sense. Money grab.
**Voice only with the wireless example though** |
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Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
·Comcast
·Embarq
1 edit | reply to atuarre
The real problem with Internet Access is that the customer cannot predict the number of bytes of data will be downloaded when accessing a webpage. I wonder how top management of the Cable Companies would like it if there was no way for their employees would know how many minutes of usage they would be charged when they place a call on one of the companies cell phones.
It is time for some activist prosecutors to sue a Cable Company for not providing detailed billing for the amount of data downloaded to a customer browser from each IP address and the who is that address. That way customers can really see how much crap is downloaded by DoubleClick when access a website. Junk Data should be handled the same way as junk faxes. Make it illegal. Sorry that will stop internet advertising. |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online
| reply to baineschile
Re: Personally...
said by baineschile :100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. Unfortunately, arbitrary caps are are just that. 100GB is good for you and someone else might be happy 10GB meaning you are going to have to pay. Another person might prefer 250GB and wonder how you can justify 100GB. Just picking random numbers out of a hat is not going to please everyone.
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jadebangle
Premium
join:2007-05-22
Olathe, KS
·SureWest Internet
·AT&T Yahoo
·Comcast
|  reply to baineschile
said by baineschile :I love caps. Just kidding, but i know this subject riles people up more than any other on this site. 100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. why not give us a choice of say 5.00 a month metered 1 dollar per gb or 19.95 a month unlimited?
with metered method i'm sure they would make a lot more money *major scam* the way they like it. metered doesn't suit most of us! |
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JSRoman
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Callahan, FL | reply to Mr Matt
Re: RE
Wouldn't the website be responsible for that not the ISP? |
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jadebangle
Premium
join:2007-05-22
Olathe, KS
·SureWest Internet
·AT&T Yahoo
·Comcast
| reply to hayabusa3303
Re: vote with your money.
said by hayabusa3303 :Disconnect and tell them to goto hell. Here is what gonna happen...
a user see his or her bill that are extremely outrageous and won't pay
ISP then disconnect you for refusing to pay
If too many ppl do this, the losses are the ISP for overcharge
You can only get what someone who can afford to pay
You can't get someone to pay what they don't have.
ISP think their are many user who can just pay whatever they wanna charge them whether they have it or not
ISP is crazy to start metering everyone as if it is utility
a very bad idea, not even laughable...
everyone of us know its more of a luxury then a necessity
they believe we can't do without internet and think we live on it that if we don't have it we're gonna go crazy and pay any money they want to blackmail us with this silly pay per gb instead of flat monthly payment like we had for the last 9 or 10 years. |
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giveupplease
@bell.ca
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| reply to dsldude08
Re: Not a money grab? Right...
I gave up on the internet for now, got onto a light internet plan for browing and emails, and used the left over money for the hockey league and equipment. Why get a fast connection like this if i'm not going to be able to pirate all these blue ray movies, it's going to end up costing more downloading them then buying them. |
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jadebangle
Premium
join:2007-05-22
Olathe, KS
·SureWest Internet
·AT&T Yahoo
·Comcast
| reply to Sir Meowmix III
said by Sir Meowmix III :
Blatant money grab. Not everyone likes being turned upside down and shaken for their pocket change.
It won't affect ppl who don't use much but for many that use it a lot well two thing will happen,
either the user will cut pack on internet usage or just don't pay it and do without internet...
The kind of ppl that won't be affected are those who use it to check email only and other little bandwidth usage that could be done on dialup as well like elderly or the disabled
they are looking to get content user to pay up or cough up as much as possible so they can use it to buy their luxury car, a new house or other unnecessary crap like jewelry costing many millions
they think everyone has money to burn like they do..
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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|  Cable TV subsidizes cable internet
said by Karl Bode :Charging per gigabyte is more forced migration than natural evolution -- the impetus originates with investors and executives who fear the impact Internet video will have on TV revenues. Imposing such low caps in the age of HD video -- and charging users $1-$5 per gigabyte for bandwidth that costs a carrier pennies -- is a money grab, and it's only made possible by a lack of sustained, viable competition and napping regulators. The problem with the above claim is that it neglects the fact that Cable TV revenues greatly subsidize internet costs. If the cable companies don't react to video watching migrating to the internet from the TV channels without replacing the lost TV revenues, than the cost to provide internet service rises drastically.
So cable companies have to start charging for the real costs of providing internet access as the subsidizing TV revenues start to dry up. And the method they rightly have chosen is to start charging users by how much bandwidth they consume. The best set of rates and charges to do that will have to be worked out as the users continue to drop Cable TV.
SO it is NOT a money grab, but it is a way to continue to cover the costs of providing infrastructure to millions of users.
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davidbugs
@cox.net | smaller isp in canada is growing
i think smaller canada isp is offering unlimed access is growing daily. i think canada more choice than usa. i check canada broadband daily. everyday a new isp is born and no caps . |
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