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Comments on news posted 2009-04-06 11:09:48: Saul Hansell at the New York Times talks with Michael Fries, the CEO of Liberty Global, whose subsidiary J:Com we mentioned last week was one of the first to offer 160Mbps DOCSIS 3.0 -- and bonded upstream speeds. Fries says the upgrade to DOC 3. ..

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Omega
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50mbps service with 5GB cap

Fast speed, super low cap. They will try and do it!
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W7PSK
Just Me

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Everett, WA
We know how Executives are soo Truthful

quote:
a number cable executives in the States say is closer to $100
More like you want your 100million Bonus.


Boricua65

join:2002-01-26
Puerto Rico

Wow...

imagine healthy competition between carriers. Image that!! It never ceases to amaze me all they care about is money and not about provide service.

BTW, Japan is looking right about now .
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jester121
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Fuzzy math?

$20 per home passed vs $100 is a pretty silly comparison to make unless it's apples/apples; what are the differences in materials/labor here vs. there? How many customers are served out of a single facility there vs. here? How old is the physical plant?

It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question.


battleop

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Queue the it's better in Japan crowd.

Here we go with the 4 page thread about how great they have it in Japan.


jmn1207
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More PR?

They always neglect to mention the 10Mbps upload and their competition from NTT that offers 100/100 FTTP services at similar prices. And why should we from this source? This is one of J:Com's promoters talking.

Offering 160/10 service is simply the best that cable can provide at the moment. It's absolutely necessary to provide these speeds considering the widespread competition in the region. If FiOS offered 100/100 service to everyone as a standard tier, our cable companies would probably have to offer similar packages where this FTTP competition exists, just as J:Com does now.


XBL2009
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 We need to put these CEO's on a leash

They make us pay through the nose for their bonuses.


DaveNJ
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This is from someone from Chicago, we need a leash too , for the politicians who didnt pay there taxes either. Projection much ?


XBL2009
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said by DaveNJ See Profile :

This is from someone from Chicago, we need a leash too , for the politicians who didnt pay there taxes either. Projection much ?
What does that have to do with expensive, slow broadband service?


kamm

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CROOKED corps->CORRUPT lobbies>MONOPOLIES->WE'RE SCREWED!

How long we're going to tolerate this rotten system of corporate power? It corrupts EVERYTHING and kills ANYTHING thast moves against its monopolistic greed.

Get rid of monopolies and MANDATE network sharing, now!


DaveNJ
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Were going to a socialistic form of government, expect less competition ,and less innovation.

bngdup

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Are you implying that we have enjoyed a wealth of Competition in the Broadband market thus far?

jimbo2150

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Were going to a socialistic form of government, expect less competition ,and less innovation.
Reality check, that's the way extreme capitalism is taking us. Gone are the days of decent choices, replaced by mega-corps who control vast regions and have strangle-holds on most users. Competition in capitalism? Maybe 20+ years ago, but not today. At least in the past socialism had the gull to break up the companies and actually create competition which has gotten us to where we are today. If companies today have anything to say about it, most people (except for in major cities), will not see any next-gen broadband for a decade or more.

Today is not socialism. Today is general capitalism being attacked by extreme capitalists, dare I say, neo-capitalists.
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BF69

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reply to jester121
Re: Fuzzy math?

said by jester121 See Profile :

$20 per home passed vs $100 is a pretty silly comparison to make unless it's apples/apples; what are the differences in materials/labor here vs. there? How many customers are served out of a single facility there vs. here? How old is the physical plant?

It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question.
who gives a shit even if it's $100 per house? Over a year year period that amounts to 83 cents a month. Over 25 years it's 33 cetns a month. Big whoop. In my book that's practically nothing.


Eat Me

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Sussex, NJ

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Re: More PR?

What would an average home user need 100/100 for?

By the way, this same carrier is offering upstream bonded DOCSIS3, so 10mbps up won't be 10mbps up for very long.


DaveNJ
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Re: CROOKED corps->CORRUPT lobbies>MONOPOLIES->WE'RE SCREWED!

said by jimbo2150 See Profile :

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

Were going to a socialistic form of government, expect less competition ,and less innovation.
Reality check, that's the way extreme capitalism is taking us. Gone are the days of decent choices, replaced by mega-corps who control vast regions and have strangle-holds on most users. Competition in capitalism? Maybe 20+ years ago, but not today. At least in the past socialism had the gull to break up the companies and actually create competition which has gotten us to where we are today. If companies today have anything to say about it, most people (except for in major cities), will not see any next-gen broadband for a decade or more.

Today is not socialism. Today is general capitalism being attacked by extreme capitalists, dare I say, neo-capitalists.
The Reality is , No investment means , no new competition. Did you see how well the stock market is doing. Did you notice all the closing stores. We never had a free market, it has always been restrained by socialism. But if you think socialism is going to bring more competition , that is fantasy.

So your against people developing there own broadband on there own, without the help of government or megacorps ?

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neowulf

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Port Orange, FL

reply to battleop
Re: Queue the it's better in Japan crowd.

Well the size of their homes are generally not great. Their taxes are not great. The crazy silly laws they have are not great. The crowded cities are not great. The cost of food is not great.

As a side note I see no reason for TWC to upgrade at all now, what would be the point of higher speeds with the low caps they are "testing" one market at a time. I guess that is why they are slow to upgrade.


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Re: CROOKED corps->CORRUPT lobbies>MONOPOLIES->WE'RE SCREWED!

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

Did you see how well the stock market is doing. Did you notice all the closing stores. We never had a free market, it has always been restrained by socialism.
You must live in an alternate universe to make such a retarded claim.


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reply to BF69
Re: Fuzzy math?

said by BF69 See Profile :

said by jester121 See Profile :

$20 per home passed vs $100 is a pretty silly comparison to make unless it's apples/apples; what are the differences in materials/labor here vs. there? How many customers are served out of a single facility there vs. here? How old is the physical plant?

It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question.
who gives a shit even if it's $100 per house? Over a year year period that amounts to 83 cents a month. Over 25 years it's 33 cetns a month. Big whoop. In my book that's practically nothing.
Who cares? The companies having to fork over the $100 up front per house care. What an idiotic statement.
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BillRoland
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Re: We need to put these CEO's on a leash

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said by DaveNJ See Profile :

This is from someone from Chicago, we need a leash too , for the politicians who didnt pay there taxes either. Projection much ?
What does that have to do with expensive, slow broadband service?
Maybe we should put a leash on you and dictate what you can make, as well? I think CEO pay is out of whack too, but if the shareholders are willing to allow it, then that's their problem. Its a slippery slope when you start dictating who can make what.
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