S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL | In this day and age...
thats actually kind of sad. We should be further along than that. On the other hand, maybe copper can be milked for another 100 years! |
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hayabusa3303
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join:2005-06-29
clubs: | its a start
But the deployment is very very slow, and should we say cherry picking also? |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| reply to S_engineer
Re: In this day and age...
said by S_engineer  :thats actually kind of sad. We should be further along than that. On the other hand, maybe copper can be milked for another 100 years! Go blame the people whose house are passed by fiber but who also choose to not buy it.
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hayabusa3303
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join:2005-06-29
clubs: | alot of people dont know what fiber is tho. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·BroadVoice
| reply to pnh102
said by pnh102 :said by S_engineer :thats actually kind of sad. We should be further along than that. On the other hand, maybe copper can be milked for another 100 years! Go blame the people whose house are passed by fiber but who also choose to not buy it. Or those who see no benefit to it at all. Keep in mind that most people these days are buying based on cost, NOT simply frothing at the mouth when they hear the word "fiber". There is a reason that the 'Lite' broadband tier (usually less than 1Mbps) is the most popular these days. The promise of 50Mbps speeds sounds great to those of us on this forum, however for the family looking to cut costs its meaningless.
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | reply to S_engineer
It took 20-40 years for copper to reach the point it is today, it will probably take just as long, for fiber to reach total penetration. |
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baineschile
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | reply to hayabusa3303
And a lot of people dont care either |
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baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | reply to hayabusa3303
Re: its a start
Go to where the profit is....Cable gets scorned for it, but fiber gets applauded. |
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tshirt
Premium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
·Comcast
| reply to hayabusa3303
I'm sure YOUR FTTH company will rollout fiber to everyone, everywhere, by years end without regard to their ability to pay. (worked for the mortgage business  )
Back here in the real world, Fios (the only real national FTTH effort is rolling out very quickly, perhaps not at the speed of light, but considering all the engineering RoW and physical construcyion issuse, as well as the economic climite, amazingly fast. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to wifi4milez
Re: In this day and age...
You raise an interesting point....whats the point of having 50Mbps speeds with a cap and overage costs looming overhead!
The cap essentially kills the need for higher speeds except for those that don't use their connections to the fullest extent!
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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| said by S_engineer :You raise an interesting point....whats the point of having 50Mbps speeds with a cap and overage costs looming overhead! The cap essentially kills the need for higher speeds except for those that don't use their connections to the fullest extent! I may be wrong here, but there are no FIOS services that are capping right now. The players are all cable/DSL so far. That being said, I could be wrong a year down the road, but right now that just isn't the case. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | reply to baineschile
I agree. As long as I get a connection to the internet of reasonable speed I couldn't care less.
What I really would have liked to have FiOS for is the TV service. |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
·Site5.com
·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast
| reply to DaveNJ
said by DaveNJ :It took 20-40 years for copper to reach the point it is today, it will probably take just as long, for fiber to reach total penetration. Heck, It was back in 1995 with TRIALS were launched in a few major cities for broadband. It wasn't until 1996 when it was available in major cities and adoption rates were low. In 1998 I lived in a city and was using ISDN for my internet connection because there were no cable/dsl internet. It wasn't until 1999 when that changed.
You are right. FIOS is a very young technology. It took 14 years to get where we are now for broadband internet and we still don't have nationwide adoption rates for it. FIOS is going to take a while to get around. |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
·Site5.com
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| reply to S_engineer
said by S_engineer :thats actually kind of sad. We should be further along than that. On the other hand, maybe copper can be milked for another 100 years! We can also blame the cost of terminating the fiber. The cost of terminating both ends of a fiber connection can run $2000 in hardware/labor. Time will bring the cost of the hardware down. |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Eh who needs it
when you have comcastic magic boost!  |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to Nightfall
Re: In this day and age...
I know Verizons not capping, so let me rephrase....theres no incentive for other providers to switch due to a cap. Comcast has the most generous cap, however a 50m tier would make you reach the cap much faster.
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
clubs: | reply to ninjatutle
Re: Eh who needs it
the pic looks more like att when they see the bill for FTTH. |
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kontos
xyzzy
join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY
| doesn't homes passed = people that could buy if they wanted
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Of course being passed be fiber doesn't mean much if a carrier isn't running the fiber directly to your door.
And why would they run fiber to your door if you haven't bought a fiber service from them?
Nobody has given me a DBS dish either, are you going to make some sort of sideways comment about that, too? |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to hayabusa3303
Re: Eh who needs it
said by hayabusa3303 :the pic looks more like att when they see the bill for FTTH. ... or a new AT&T VRAD.
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Big Pete 82
join:2009-01-30
Corona, CA | reply to kontos
Re: doesn't homes passed = people that could buy if they wanted
It could be in reference to AT&T's greenfield fiber deployments. AT&T still sells U-verse DSL to those customers even though there is fiber running through their neighborhoods... |
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