DataRiker
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2 edits | Stupid Time Warner
Contrary to stupid people, bits are not in short supply. |
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jvanbrecht
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| The whole Corning bit is stupid..
In fact, in my opinion, its in Corning/Verizons (assuming that is the link the original story is getting at) best interest for Time Warner to go the way they are, it would cause users to flood to alternate services which I am sure Verizon would be happy to provide (assuming not rural areas since Verizon seems to be allergic to them...) |
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tdouglas22
join:2001-09-25
Memphis, TN | I'm sure it would give Verizon more business but the bigger picture is more important. This metered billing crap really has to be stopped now. It's such a huge step backwards. |
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jimbo2150
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Re: Stupid Time Warner
No, but the "series of tubes" are. Unfortunately, instead of upgrading the infrastructure some companies choose to try to control it's customer's usage. Of course there is also a conflict of interest with companies that also offer video as new video services are cropping up on the internet.
I say the new bill should either kill caps or have a strict stipulation that companies that offer video and/or voice not be allowed in the internet market. Either or, they should choose.
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jimbo2150
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Youngstown, OH | reply to jvanbrecht
Re: The whole Corning bit is stupid..
I'm sure Verizon does not cover all of TW's territories either, so that is not an option for everyone.
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rcabor
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said by jvanbrecht  :In fact, in my opinion, its in Corning/Verizons (assuming that is the link the original story is getting at) best interest for Time Warner to go the way they are, it would cause users to flood to alternate services which I am sure Verizon would be happy to provide (assuming not rural areas since Verizon seems to be allergic to them...) I am sure all ISP's would love Time Warners Business Plan of Extortion by caps, but are just afraid to be first. Just as I am sure Time Warner proposed their billing plan with the hopes that everyone else will follow suit. |
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Phil
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It is indeed a step backwards and I can see Verizon, a company very familiar to metered billing, also switching to metered billing as way to preserve their TV and video on demand services. |
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baineschile
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They have a right
Agree with or not, Time Warner should have the right to impose a cap on their service if they see fit. The only reason there is such a hoopla about it now is because for so long, broadband internet has been "all you can eat".
Why didnt politicians get involved when landline or cell phone companies charged by the minute? Or when AOL had monthly minutes? Because, for years and years, that is how its always been, so no one thought differently.
Just as Time Warner should have the right to impose a cap, any ISP, including TW, should have the right to offer uncapped service. If the caps get unreasonable, or people decide they dont want to go with that company, they face the greatest attribute capitalism offers; competition. |
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DataRiker
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Re: Stupid Time Warner
Actually upgrading infrastructure has nothing to do with this.
TW has artificially "downgraded" its existing infrastructure, if they used it to capacity we wouldn't have this problem. |
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wifi4milez
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said by DataRiker :Contrary to stupid people, bits are not in short supply. The argument here isnt that the bits themselves are in short supply, rather the infrastructure from the headend (or POP) to the end user doesnt have the capacity to support continued growth.
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DataRiker
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1 edit | said by wifi4milez :said by DataRiker :Contrary to stupid people, bits are not in short supply. The argument here isnt that the bits themselves are in short supply, rather the infrastructure from the headend (or POP) to the end user doesnt have the capacity to support continued growth. That would be correct if there was even a shred of evidence that their existing network was inadequate. I suspect that this is not the case.
If other cable companies can do it, why can't Time Warner? What a joke. |
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tiger72
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precisely. TimeWarner Kansas City was advertising how much "dark fiber" they had a couple years ago, saying that all of that dark fiber simply could be lit up when they needed it, and that TWC (unlike local DSL) had a massive supply of bandwidth at the ready.
Funny how stories change...
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Transmaster
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Re: The whole Corning bit is stupid..
Leave it to a politician to surface where ever they can get face, and lip time on TV or Radio. They express their concern, and bla-bla-bla... Sometimes this kind of grand standing gets them in trouble. Take Congressman Donald Payne of New Jersey. Went to Somalia, no doubt, trying to broker a release for the American Merchant Captain so he could look like a hero with his home crowd. The result of which somebody targeted his plane with mortar shells, good thing the plane had already left. Can you imagine the cost of the State Deprartment security for Congressman Payne. In the future maybe Congressman Payne will stick to issues closer to home, Like improved broadband for New Jersey, and maybe lower taxes.
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DataRiker
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Re: They have a right
said by baineschile : If the caps get unreasonable, or people decide they dont want to go with that company, they face the greatest attribute capitalism offers; competition. FAIL (for totally missing the main point of the topic) |
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baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | Nice intelligent, well thought out response. |
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DataRiker
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3 edits | said by baineschile :Nice intelligent, well thought out response. If you had actually read before you posted you would have seen this article targets exactly those who have no competition:
"a new bill that would prevent this kind of metered pricing -- particularly in monopoly markets where consumers couldn't vote with their wallet." |
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Re: The whole Corning bit is stupid..
said by jimbo2150 :I'm sure Verizon does not cover all of TW's territories either, so that is not an option for everyone. Of course. Verizon FiOS doesn't even begin to cover a small fraction of TW's territory. |
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cryptmagic
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| They have no right
Time Warner has no right, to put caps on a service, especially if they are the only provider in the market. In the city some buildings will get screwed, the caps are not to limit over usage on there network, they are a new way to make more money. If you cap your subscribers and then overcharge them on overage, then your limiting the internet. The caps will apply to all products, but there own. Comcast did it right with a cap high enough it only limited people who are torrent seeders. If they want they can make tiers of speed, and just sell them without caps, but with caps an xbox will take your whole quota in a week or so. |
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axus
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Re: The whole Corning bit is stupid..
I don't think there's anything wrong with championing a cause that a majority of people support. It's one of the design strengths of democracy. In theory, whether they actually accomplished anything should matter too, though I'm pretty sure it's not considered as much. |
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Phil
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Re: They have no right
They are a private company. They have every right. |
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