 patcat88
join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY
| lets charge overages for digital cable
Why don't we put GB caps on the amount of Digital Cable/Mpeg2 transport stream you can watch per month? HD will eat your bucket faster unless you watch an "economy HD" stream (most are anyways right now ).
The cable boxes already record and send back ever remote press you do and what you watch to headquarters for data mining. Charging digital cable by the GB would be as easy as pie. $1 a GB, which is about 45 mins of SDTV. |
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  Bit Premium join:2009-02-19 00000 | Now isn't the time...
...to illegally abuse your market position and bend customers over a barrel just because you want to profiteer while defending your insanely profitable VOD and video revenues from superior competitors like Apple, Microsoft, Netflix, Hulu and Amazon. |
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 hottboiinnc ME
join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH | They can do what they want with THEIR network. You are free to build your own and service customers the way you want. Nobody is making you use TWC or any other carrier. |
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  Matt Take me down to the paradise city Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| said by hottboiinnc :They can do what they want with THEIR network. You are free to build your own and service customers the way you want. Nobody is making you use TWC or any other carrier. Unfortunately, when you get into the game of suing people so they can't compete with you, your whole argument goes out the window. |
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 hottboiinnc ME
join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| No its not out the window. You can compete. YOU can build our own network. Anyone can build their own network. I'm sure TWC won't sue you. I'm sure they won't see ATT for expanding. They sued when it started to come down to tax-payer money. You have choices, I have choices, if you don't like the choices, change providers or BUILD OUT your own network. And thanks to VZ fiber is getting cheaper. |
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  Reality_Check
| Way to go TWC...
You have to love TWC, they never cease to amaze me.
Not only are they in the midst of starting a new ridiculous billing system to bilk their customers they have the nerve to chastise the FCC (while still extending their hand out for government assistance) claiming that current competition will keep the broadband industry in line.
If TWC truly believed their own hype they would try their new gouging plan in an area with some true competition (like NYC) and not in areas where the customers have basically no other options for service... |
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  CPUYODA
join:2003-01-25 Johnson City, TN 1 edit | reply to hottboiinnc Re: Now isn't the time...
But what if they're the only game in town?....then what? -- "In God We Trust,All Others Pay Cash" |
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  kamm
join:2001-02-14 Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
2 edits | reply to hottboiinnc said by hottboiinnc :They can do what they want with THEIR network. You are free to build your own and service customers the way you want. Nobody is making you use TWC or any other carrier. Yeah, rrrrriiiight.
Just like as they compete with Cablevision - wait, somehow mysteriously their service areas EXCLUDE each others' streets...
Fuckin' PoS monopolies.
PS: ah and how much do they pay you to come here and spread the BS, seriously? I could use some extra income...  --
said by bicker :Waaaa waaaa waaaa. You just want what you want and don't care to factor in what is right or true. Your perspectives are un-American, and deserve far more ridicule than I'm prepared to pile on them. |
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  ILpt4U Premium join:2006-11-12 Lisle, IL | Once given up...
If Net Neutrality is ever given up, it will never be got back.
So now is the PERFECT TIME to keep the principles of a Neutral Network. |
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  Bit Premium join:2009-02-19 00000 1 edit | reply to hottboiinnc Re: Now isn't the time...
Yeah, tell that to the munis who try only to have incumbent providers bribe politicians into passing laws stopping them.
So the claim that anyone can just build out a network is horseshit. |
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  Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02
Host: Road Runner PC gaming GAMES PC gaming Tech
| reply to hottboiinnc YOU can build our own network. Anyone can build their own network. That "build your own network" line ignores so many market realities for argumentative effect, it's a little insulting.
Were it that easy, don't you think there'd be significantly more competitors in most American markets? "Build your own network" in an age where incumbent operators appreciate the protection of well-lobbied regulators is kind of like telling a kid with broken legs to go fight Mike Tyson in a ring with a fixed referee if he's so unhappy with all that time he has to spend on the couch. |
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 Sammer
join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA
| reply to hottboiinnc said by hottboiinnc :BUILD OUT your own network. Right after you pay off all the politicians, etc.! |
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  chazpaw Premium join:2007-03-28 Terrell, TX | reply to ILpt4U Re: Once given up...
Amen! |
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 blips
join:2001-04-17 Addison, IL
| reply to ILpt4U said by ILpt4U :If Net Neutrality is ever given up, it will never be got back. So now is the PERFECT TIME to keep the principles of a Neutral Network. Same thing with caps but there is only one major ISP that is not talking about implementing caps, Verizon. Even so I'm sure they will cave in due time. We will never have caps less internet connections again. |
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  en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to Bit Re: Now isn't the time...
I agree. Telco/Cable Co will attempt to slow down/impede progress on competition so that they DO NOT have to compete directly (like Cablevision/Comcast vs. Verizon FiOS). Muni broadband is easier to sue against, as its taxpayer money vs. business.
"robust competition in the broadband marketplace ensures that service providers will act in consumers' best interests."
needs to be replaced with
"anti-competition in the broadband marketplace ensures that service providers will act in share holders consumers' best interests." -- Canada = Hollywood North |
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 me1212
join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO
·VOIPo
1 edit | reply to blips Re: Once given up...
Verizon may or may not have caps, they may be able to use it against their competition(move in to areas were TW is the only other choice, it would get them a lot more costumers). Or maybe there will be only business packages with no caps, comcast is doing that, maybe others will follow.
If more internet only ISPs come into the market that would help, they would not have video or phone money to protect.
EDIT: Also BPL, If BPL gets big(I hope it does) I just cannot see many if any powercos capping usage it would be kinda a conflict of intrests. |
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 wstcvnaca
join:2004-10-05 La Puente, CA
| reply to hottboiinnc Re: Now isn't the time...
said by hottboiinnc :They can do what they want with THEIR network. You are free to build your own and service customers the way you want. Nobody is making you use TWC or any other carrier. What a lame and stupid comment. GET REAL!!! |
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  Simba7
join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | reply to hottboiinnc Sure.. I'll build my own network..
Oh wait.. Who's going to give me the millions of dollars up front to build it? You?
..and what's going to prevent TWC from smashing my idea into the ground? |
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 travelguy
join:1999-09-03 Santa Fe, NM
1 edit | As I Said - It's About The Business Model - not cost
If you'd like a short, relatively easy to read article on why TW is doing this (and as I've posted previously, it's not about bandwidth costs), check out the Wall Street Journal »online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-200···479.html
Edit: WSJ is screwing around with their access rules. If you click on the direct link above, you get the first para. if you go through Google News, you get the complete article. |
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