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Comments on news posted 2009-04-16 18:13:07: Manassas, Virginia was the first US city to see a real, non-trial launch of broadband over powerline (BPL) technology. ..

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pnh102
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More Proof Government Broadband is Bad

So how do the taxpayers of Manassas feel about their valuable money being wasted on something that clearly isn't vital to the city to function.

I wonder if the same council threatened to cut funding for schools, police, firefighters and the usual suspects that come up when government want to raise taxes.
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sortofaTroll

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said by pnh102 See Profile :

So how do the taxpayers of Manassas feel about their valuable money being wasted on something that clearly isn't vital to the city to function.
What's the alternative?
A big fugly UHearse cabinet on every corner?


Mactron
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campaign to turn back the clock on broadband in the US


Manassas City Council
Haw, BPL is more like turning back advancement in Real Broadband technology.


pnh102
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Re: More Proof Government Broadband is Bad

said by sortofaTroll :

What's the alternative?
A big fugly UHearse cabinet on every corner?
People in Manassas can get broadband from Comcast or Verizon (DSL or FIOS).

Both of these options were put in place with no taxpayer money involved.

There is no need for any form of government-provided broadband in Manassas.
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C0deZer0
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reply to Mactron
Re: campaign to turn back the clock on broadband in the US

Try again; it's not decaying enough.


DrStrange
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It's down! Start kicking!

Time to drive a wooden stake through BPLs undead heart once and for all. Remember to behead it and bury the head and the body separately.


KA3SGM
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Just LET IT DIE.....

Somewhere there is still investment in BPL Technologies???

WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT???

Somewhere in this story, they failed to mention, that a Village is missing it's idiot.....

The Power companies should be using their existing poles to string up some fiber, and provide FTTH, or at least some type of Hybrid Fiber-Coax (HFC) network technology.

If they are already that heavily invested in BPL, replace the BPL nodes with WiFi ones and open up shop as a WISP...
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decifal

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Bon Aqua, TN

reply to pnh102
Re: More Proof Government Broadband is Bad

said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by sortofaTroll :

What's the alternative?
A big fugly UHearse cabinet on every corner?
People in Manassas can get broadband from Comcast or Verizon (DSL or FIOS).

Both of these options were put in place with no taxpayer money involved.

There is no need for any form of government-provided broadband in Manassas.
Right.. Comcast and verizon and ATT alike only want the more populated areas.. What about people in less dense subdivisions? You going to suggest they move to get broadband? That reasoning alone shows ignorance and laziness amongst providers.. For company's that have had tax money handed to them already (( not stimulas money )) they have done a piss poor job coming up with faster and affordable networks for everyone..

Satellite internet is an excuse.. Not a solution

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Paging Amigo Boy - here's another chance to bust amateur radio chops and pump your favorite mode of 'broadband' !
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pnh102
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Re: More Proof Government Broadband is Bad

said by decifal See Profile :

You going to suggest they move to get broadband?
Yes.
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decifal

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said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by decifal See Profile :

You going to suggest they move to get broadband?
Yes.
Alright fine.. Clean out your guest room.. We all will move in to your place! When that is full, we'll get tents and move into the yard. Maybe we can build a structure over your house to help support all the extra people moving to the city from your answer.. Then when food prices sky rocket from farmers moving just to get utilities, and you start complaining.. Our answer will be move to the sticks and grow a carrot.

God seriously.. If you believe that's the answer, then you fail at innovation.. Sorry.. Hate it for ya.


pnh102
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said by decifal See Profile :

We all will move in to your place! When that is full, we'll get tents and move into the yard.
The extra rental income would be nice.

said by decifal See Profile :

God seriously.. If you believe that's the answer, then you fail at innovation.. Sorry.. Hate it for ya.
Whose fault is it if you don't check to see if broadband is available before you move? Every place to live has its advantages and disadvantages. It isn't Verizon's fault or Comcast's fault if someone chooses to live out in the middle of nowhere.
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sapo
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reply to decifal
You just called Broadband a Utility. It is not quite there yet.

decifal

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Bon Aqua, TN

reply to pnh102
Hello. I have lived in this area all my life.. Services were created and built out sense i've been living here.. Even though there are many people here wishing to have BB service from our local providers, they do not yet provide it.. There are quite a few of us.. Not just some farmer and his cow/goat/whatever he has..

Broadband not a utility? Heh, I think its more so than people realise... If you forget what its like to not have it.. Try dialup for a week.. I bet you won't last.. Just checking my bank account takes 5 minutes... God help me if I want to shop on the internet, watch a video, download software etc.... I love to play fps games, but latency just kills it..


pnh102
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said by decifal See Profile :

Broadband not a utility?
Nope.

Not in the least.

We have billions of people on this planet who get by just fine without broadband. We have millions of people in this country who live just fine without broadband. No one will die if they lack broadband.
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MrHappy316
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I'll have to agree with some of this assessment, where I currently live was based on lots of research on the availability of broadband. Had it not been available from multiple carriers I would not of moved where I currently live.

I will agree on some of those forced to live in the boonies due to employment or some other factor, they should have multiple choices for broadband just like those of us living in cities. I'm about to be forced to live in the boonies and it looks like a monopoly on broadband services where I'm at (- satellite of course).

But unlike some other folks I was deployed to Afghanistan for a year and relied on satellite broadband to provide internet. Might not be able to play games but at least lets you keep in touch with folks and hop on the internet for other than latency applications without dial up speeds.


Simba7

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If you're a HAM, avoid Manassas at all costs.

..unless you love interference.

It seems odd. The big companies say BPL doesn't produce interference, yet White Spaces provide a ton of it.

Seems a bit backwards to me. BPL produces a ton of interference and WS doesn't. I still want this proof they say that WS messes with broadcast TV.
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wifi4milez
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reply to Mactron
Re: campaign to turn back the clock on broadband in the US

That looks like they took the image from the guy in Office Space hitting the printer, and superimposed it over a horse pic......

I actually would say I am close to 90% positive thats what it is!


rawgerz
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reply to pnh102
Re: More Proof Government Broadband is Bad

I was told that Verizon used tax dollars to fund fios work in Philly.


pfak
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reply to Simba7
Re: If you're a HAM, avoid Manassas at all costs.

Ham radio is a hobby, there is no real need for it today ..

The only reason Ham Radio would be good is in a major emergency, but then people probably wouldn't have power for their ham sets anyway ..
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