  Eat Me
join:2002-09-25 Sussex, NJ | Deals are nice but
Availability is the deal killer for many. |
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  R4M0N Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
join:2000-10-04 Glen Allen, VA | I wish they had a deal
For those who don't need or want TV and phone. I know... Asking too much... |
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  jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| FiOS passes plenty of homes with potential customers that have not taken the plunge. Surely just about any person that is looking for internet only solutions from Verizon, and has the available service, has already signed up. This is an attempt to grab as many customers as possible that are looking for a cheap solution that meets all their needs.
With no caps and rock solid stability, if you were to opt for a standalone FiOS internet service, either the 20/5 or 20/20 (soon to be 25/25 for both) are already offered at a great price and allow outstanding potential for any alternative video and VoIP solutions. |
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  cdru Go Colts Premium,MVM join:2003-05-14 Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to Eat Me Re: Deals are nice but
said by Eat Me :Availability is the deal killer for many. You sure are a Negative Nancy, aren't you. Not everyone is going to qualify for every promotion. However I wouldn't exactly say that a deal that passes 9.2 million homes a limited availability deal breaker. Other promos have made DSLR news that covered far fewer homes. |
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 psbny
join:2002-01-06 Peekskill, NY | less for more?
wasn't the previous promotion $95/ month for 20/5 internet, FiOS HD Extreme TV, and Freedom essentials unlimited calling? |
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  NY Tel Premium join:2004-04-09 Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo
| said by psbny :wasn't the previous promotion $95/ month for 20/5 internet, FiOS HD Extreme TV, and Freedom essentials unlimited calling? I believe it was 94.99 a month for the previous promo but I could be wrong. |
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  Eat Me
join:2002-09-25 Sussex, NJ | reply to cdru Re: Deals are nice but
Deal breaker for me.
No FiOS where I live. |
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  Thymadman Mine Mine
join:2002-08-07 Brooklyn, NY | reply to psbny Re: less for more?
Yep, this new promo is offering much less. You now have to go for the $105 package to get the 20/5 speeds. Less for more this time around -- If you can buy it, it's old! |
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  booooooooooooo
@verizon.net | Incentives
I know a good Incentive, ADD MORE HD!!!!!!!! |
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 fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
| Goes to show that even PR people can't get it right..
"The press release throws in a slight nod to recent events, noting that "unlike some cable providers, Verizon doesn't penalize subscribers for using all the speed they need." "
Cable doesn't penalize anyone for using all the "speed" they need.. it's transfer that is under fire.. speed has nothing to do with it... stupid suits. But, give them time, and Verizon will certainly be on the same bandwagon as the rest. Seems to me VZ already was.. wasn't the CEO right there along the side of SBC crying for a third rail billing scheme which would penalize providers for not paying more for clear passage of their data?
While I'll give credit to Verizon for running fiber - it's a good thing they are.. two things: 1) its showing that it's not about the connection itself, rather the service you give, the price and the value that people perceive. (And in their case, VZ customers haven't forgotten how badly they treated their phone customers for decades) 2) They package up promos the same way everyone else does and tries to polish theirs to look like they're doing something that others don't/won't...
The PR game is getting old on all sides. I, for one, am old enough (but still in my 30's) to remember the absolute raping of Americans on phone rates for years.. nothing has changed in my mind about the bells. |
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 jazzlady
join:2005-08-04 Bartonsville, PA
·ProLog
| said by fiberguy :I, for one, am old enough (but still in my 30's) to remember the absolute raping of Americans on phone rates for years.. nothing has changed in my mind about the bells. What, like customers aren't *still* being raped every month on cell phone rates?
We're nickled and dimed to death, but my favorites are those text message rates- 20 cents a pop to send OR receive a text message.
I'm with Verizon. It's just my husband and I, we don't use text messaging so our plan doesn't cover it.
I've turned it off 3 times. They've turned it back on 3 times. And I don't find out about it until I wind up getting a whole bunch of disgusting porn related spam texts, and there it is on the bill at the end of the month.
Twenty cents to *receive* a text you didn't ask for. What a scam. |
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 fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20 | .. and to add insult to injury, speaking of the cell texting issue, I keep my phone on 24/7 for certain reasons, and it sucked getting porn spam messages at 4am waking me up. |
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  FloridaBoy
@verizon.com
| reply to fiberguy Fiberguy,
I hace a question for you if you dont mind. **Looking at Verizon's 97.5 Billion in revenue and 6.5 billion in profit for last year, I can see Verizon made about 6.6 cents for every dollar they made. Is 6.6 percent profit too much?? What do you consider the proper percentage of profit for them to make??
The reason I ask is I see corporate greed, raping customers and the like alot when I am lurking on this board.
**=I know you need to look deeper into their books. There might be some surprises but their revenue and profit stand. |
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 Chaldo
join:2008-03-18 West Bloomfield, MI | buyverizon promo
»buyverizon.com
enjoy |
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 Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26 North Andover, MA | reply to Eat Me Re: Deals are nice but
And unemployment is at 0%.. because I have a job. What is everyone complaining about? (eye roll) |
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 Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26 North Andover, MA | reply to booooooooooooo Re: Incentives
There are over 100 HD channels.. who needs more than a 100 channels total? The Fios TV package is outstanding.. I don't even really like TV. |
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  cdru Go Colts Premium,MVM join:2003-05-14 Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to fiberguy Re: Goes to show that even PR people can't get it right..
said by fiberguy :"The press release throws in a slight nod to recent events, noting that "unlike some cable providers, Verizon doesn't penalize subscribers for using all the speed they need." " Cable doesn't penalize anyone for using all the "speed" they need.. it's transfer that is under fire.. speed has nothing to do with it... stupid suits. For many here, we understand the difference between download speed and bandwidth consumption. The public in general though is not nearly as technically informed as the average visitor here and associates the two as being the same (or at least similar enough). |
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 quintin3265
join:2008-06-07 State College, PA
·Comcast
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to jmn1207 Re: I wish they had a deal
Believe it or not, ping times with FiOS were inferior to Comcast for me. The only reason I got rid of Comcast was because they would not tell me what their caps were, and I considered it unethical.
FiOS, I think, is overrated. The customer service is excellent, which is why I'll keep using it. Though the bandwidth is equivalent to Comcast, they do not have a PowerBoost system and the ping times are worse than Comcast's.
If I hadn't been turned away by Comcast and locked in a deal with Verizon, I might have actually switched back. |
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  cdru Go Colts Premium,MVM join:2003-05-14 Fort Wayne, IN 2 edits | reply to Chaldo Re: buyverizon promo
nevermind |
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  jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | reply to quintin3265 Re: I wish they had a deal
I currently pay $89.95 for 50/20 FiOS service with Verizon. Latency is largely dependent on the servers you connect to most often. For me, the latency is improved significantly in general testing done within the US and abroad. I, especially, see better performance to Europe and Asia, by a considerable margin.
The other day I sent nearly 20GB of data to a location in Holland that would have taken me all day to do with my Comcast connection. For me, the Comcast PowerBoost only works with the first 10MB's of uploaded data, according to their current information. That just won't cut it, and I won't think of going back until they offer a substantial increase in the upload performance, and for a comparable price.
For those people primarily interested in downloading, especially files under 40MB's, perhaps Comcast is the better option? Although, rumor has it that FiOS will be upgrading 20/5 service to 25/25 by late June and into July of this year. At the same price that Comcast offers Blast! in my region, unless the pings are consistently 25% slower to every server visited, I'd seriously consider sticking with FiOS, at least until DOCSIS 4.0 (or whatever the next major overhaul is named) is ready to be delivered.
I do keep a close eye on what Comcast is doing in my area. I'm certainly not committed to Verizon and I would pull that plug if something more substantial was offered from the cable company. I only moved from Comcast once FiOS started offering a ton of new HD channels this past November. To be honest, it will take a lot from Comcast to get me to come back, as I am very happy with the TV and internet service provided from Verizon...so far.
Edit: Comcast isn't really equivalent to FiOS at the same price except for speed tests and relatively small files. Blast! is equal in price to FiOS 20/5 service. Blast! is only 16/2 after the first 20MB's down and 10MB's up. Try timing a 100MB file or larger and you can really see the difference, especially uploading. I went through these exact types of testing 6 months ago when I made the jump from Comcast to Verizon. Only, back then, the limits were 40MB's for PowerBoost. These limits have since been lowered in my region.
Here was a test that I performed a few months ago. »Re: [ fiber tech] Does Verizon Fios cap upload |
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