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Comments on news posted 2009-04-23 12:59:44: For years we've discussed how broadband may help struggling communities, but while broadband may improve the quality of life and draw industry to a region, it isn't some kind of economic panacea. ..

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DarkLogix

join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
 I wonder Why

The Post seems almost surprised that the community with the higher percentage of high school graduates and job placement programs saw better economic fortunes

why would the Post be surprised?


John Galt
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said by DarkLogix See Profile :

Why would the Post be surprised?
It's a figure of speech.
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JSRoman
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I guess WashPO is hurting

I know times are tough in the newspaper business but talk about a piece with very little substance. What about the amount of people living in these areas?

Rose Hill-

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Hill,···Virginia

The median income for a household in the CDP was $15,408, and the median income for a family was $15,833.

As of the census[2] of 2000, there were 714 people, 306 households, and 197 families residing in the CDP.

Lebanon-
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon,_Virginia

The median income for a household in the town was $27,750, and the median income for a family was $35,750.

The population was 3,273 at the 2000 census.

I'm guessing if your family is making 15-16k a year, the last thing on your mind is internet service.
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DarkLogix

join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
Makes sence

but you never know what some people will use money on


slipknot01299

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if i had broadband when i was in school i bet i wouldnt have dropped out.

slipknot0129

join:2007-10-28
Wewoka, OK
i bet if i had broadband when i was in high school that i wouldnt have dropped out.


jmn1207
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Re: I guess WashPO is hurting

Clearly, the solution is to drastically lower the standards in our education system to allow for everyone to have a university diploma. Problem solved.


baineschile
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reply to DarkLogix
Re: I wonder Why

This may not be because of internet access directly. Communities with more money that could afford healthcare and better education always did better than the poor communities; broadband has little to do with the equation.

lacklusterbb

join:2009-03-12

There's no panacea, but . . .

In reality, there's no one thing that can be an economic panacea, but whether the politicians want to admit it or not, adoption of the Internet within the general public is now broad enough for it to be considered a utility. (Yes, phone service and even electricity weren't considered utilities when first introduced, once the general public began adopting use of the new technologies and penetration reached a critical mass, they were classified utilities.) Failure to extend broadband into areas will ensure that they will die economically within the next few decades. US companies that want low-cost labor that doesn't have to be particularly skilled, just trainable, might look at smaller communities in the US, but if those communities don't have the Internet pipes to enable the companies to operate, evolve and grow, they won't move to those communities--they'll take their operations and jobs elsewhere, probably overseas to a developing economy. It's time for the general public to pressure the politicians to recognize that a robust and open Internet is critical to our overall economy; it's not just an entertainment vehicle but an essential economic tool for most businesses these days. As such, it's time for the national government to set recap policies and force net neutrality, if not nationalize the pipes. The entertainment industry and its subsidiaries have no business owning any of the pipes.


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It will take many many years....

It is not the companies who may want to move in to the area, but those that live in the area and may start a company that is going to make the difference.

I am willing to bet that are plenty of people living in rural areas that are wanting to start a business, but started it in a larger urban area because there is no broadband in the town they may have wanted to start it in.

Such things take many years. Just like the economy doesn't get fixed right away just because there's a new guy in charge, it doesn't mean businesses will boom just because there is broadband. And in the last 2 years it hasn't been very good for people wanting to start a business either.
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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to DarkLogix
Re: I wonder Why

said by DarkLogix See Profile :

The Post seems almost surprised that the community with the higher percentage of high school graduates and job placement programs saw better economic fortunes

why would the Post be surprised?
Because its not politically correct or compatible with rugged individualism.

patcat88

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Jamaica, NY

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Re: I guess WashPO is hurting

said by jmn1207 See Profile :

Clearly, the solution is to drastically lower the standards in our education system to allow for everyone to have a university diploma. Problem solved.
And then 50% of new 5 and 6 figure jobs will be H1-B visas from India.


bolt
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Not a pancea..

Broadband availability may not be a panacea for economic woes in communities, but lack of broad can and will cause the companies that are there to move to an area where it is available. Several cities have either lost or been in danger of losing business when the incumbent internet service monopoly/duopoly there chose not to deploy broadband.


jmn1207
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Re: I guess WashPO is hurting

said by patcat88 See Profile :

said by jmn1207 See Profile :

Clearly, the solution is to drastically lower the standards in our education system to allow for everyone to have a university diploma. Problem solved.
And then 50% of new 5 and 6 figure jobs will be H1-B visas from India.
We could always just print gobs of money to create astronomical inflation rates, making the dollar so weak that it simply is not profitable to outsource any jobs. As a side benefit, with such high inflation, everyone will become a multimillionaire.


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

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Re: Not a pancea..

said by bolt See Profile :

Broadband availability may not be a panacea for economic woes in communities, but lack of broad can and will cause the companies that are there to move to an area where it is available. Several cities have either lost or been in danger of losing business when the incumbent internet service monopoly/duopoly there chose not to deploy broadband.
Yep not to mention people who have houses in areas where broadband is not available will lose home value an have trouble selling them. broadband availability is already starting to become a factor in home buying. In 10 years years not having broadband available will be like trying to sell a house that doesn't have electricity available.


cdru
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said by slipknot0129 See Profile :

i bet if i had broadband when i was in high school that i wouldnt have dropped out.
How does having or not having broadband affect you dropping out?


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said by slipknot0129 See Profile :

i bet if i had broadband when i was in high school that i wouldnt have dropped out.
I bet you are wrong.

slipknot0129

join:2007-10-28
Wewoka, OK

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said by cdru See Profile :

said by slipknot0129 See Profile :

i bet if i had broadband when i was in high school that i wouldnt have dropped out.
How does having or not having broadband affect you dropping out?
probably alot.


Robotics
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Re: Not a pancea..

said by BF69 See Profile :

Man, I agree on that one!

patcat88

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reply to jmn1207
Re: I guess WashPO is hurting

said by jmn1207 See Profile :

We could always just print gobs of money to create astronomical inflation rates, making the dollar so weak that it simply is not profitable to outsource any jobs. As a side benefit, with such high inflation, everyone will become a multimillionaire.
A cup of coffee at Starbucks will be $4 trillion dollars
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