  Bit Premium join:2009-02-19 00000 | Sure, so long as they have 1 customer
...charge $5000/mo for it or have a 100KB monthly cap. |
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join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO
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| What good is up to 18m if you cannot use it?
I had WB and it was on MAYBE 4 hours a day and from 6am to 12pm on saturday and then off till monday! What kinda of cap will it have? On their 512 connection the cap I had was too small. I hope they do not get one cent of the stimulus money! They do not deserve it! Give it to MWISPs like millenicom, they have no cap and much better lag than WB. Or give it to FWISPs, they are even better a lot of the time. |
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  Transmaster Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20 Cheyenne, WY | So this is what Dishnet Work is featuring. Noticed the ad's this last weekend. |
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  TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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| 1500/256 has 17 GB down cap & 5 GB up cap
For $80/mo those speeds and caps aren't so bad, when a rural user's other choice is dial-up.

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 me1212
join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO 1 edit | Yeah, but if they can get fixed wireless or millenicom(they re-sell sprint/verizon mobile internet with no cap) then WB ain't so great. |
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 Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29 Eustis, FL
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·Embarq
| Great Idea!
If they get the price right and fast download speeds they might give the Cable ISP's a run for their money. Remember Direct Broadcast Satellite was the technology that stimulated the lethargic, indifferent, Cable Television Industry to introduce Digital Cable Service. Why settle for 55 Channels of crap when you can receive 200 Channels of crap via satellite for the same price.
My brother in law chose Direct TV rather than settle for AT&T Cables poor service in 1998, even though cable tv was included in the homeowners association fee. The guests got AT&T Cable in their bedrooms. |
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  djrobx
join:2000-05-31 Valencia, CA
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·AT&T U-Verse
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·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | I think funds should absolutely go to satelite broadband
Funding can help with both high costs and speed caps. The benefits to improving satellite internet is significant: Improve satellite broadband, and you've improved choices for families and businesses all across Rural Amercia that might otherwise be waiting decades for some other type of deployment.
Latency will always be an issue for satellite based services, but low latency isn't required for most basic internet necessities. Getting more raw bandwidth than dialup is, however, becoming an increasingly important issue as the web moves towards more media rich experiences, and things like software updates grow in size.
Another thought - what happens to all the "old" DOCSIS 1 and/or 850mhz nodes/LE gear gear when Comcast and Time Warner do upgrades to DOCSIS 3 and 1ghz? Maybe the government ought to sponsor buying that stuff from carriers and donating it to smaller rural providers. Could both encourage rural america to get wired with true two way wired broadband and encourage cable companies to modernize their systems. Plus it gives us an alternative to e-wasting perfectly good electronics. -- AT&T U-Hearse Your funeral. Delivered.
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 fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
| reply to me1212 Re: 1500/256 has 17 GB down cap & 5 GB up cap
Yea, but, there will always be exceptions. Your response to TK's post is just the same as "Yea, but if you can get cable or DSL then WB ain't so great."
For people that have no alternative but dialup, and even in some spots dial-up is still essentially 28.8kbps, then WB isn't bad.
Satellite service isn't meant for everyone. It's not even really there to get metro-based customers.. it's there to pick up those out of the reach of more common services. (ie: no other choice, which includes the options you're talking about) |
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 fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
| reply to Mr Matt Re: Great Idea!
said by Mr Matt :  If they get the price right and fast download speeds they might give the Cable ISP's a run for their money. Remember Direct Broadcast Satellite was the technology that stimulated the lethargic, indifferent, Cable Television Industry to introduce Digital Cable Service. Why settle for 55 Channels of crap when you can receive 200 Channels of crap via satellite for the same price. My brother in law chose Direct TV rather than settle for AT&T Cables poor service in 1998, even though cable tv was included in the homeowners association fee. The guests got AT&T Cable in their bedrooms. How does that relate to Broadband satellite? did I miss something? |
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  morbo Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22 00000 clubs: | prediction: blimp broadband returns!
if the government is handing out money for broadband, i expect blimp broadband to return for a piece of that handout. any technology is viable if you give it enough of our taxes! |
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  gimme5
join:2002-12-23 Kissimmee, FL
| reply to Mr Matt Re: Great Idea!
said by Mr Matt :  If they get the price right and fast download speeds they might give the Cable ISP's a run for their money. No way. If I could get 1Gbps with satellite, I'd still keep my 7mbps cable HSI service. It's all about the latency, you know? |
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  jadebangle Premium join:2007-05-22 Olathe, KS 1 edit | reply to morbo Re: prediction: blimp broadband returns!
Verizon Fios user is going to cancel their service and go with satellite! woopee!
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  jadebangle Premium join:2007-05-22 Olathe, KS
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| reply to TKJunkMail Re: 1500/256 has 17 GB down cap & 5 GB up cap
said by TKJunkMail :For $80/mo those speeds and caps aren't so bad, when a rural user's other choice is dial-up. [att=1] Thats true if your usage is the same as dialup lol 
Its just another gimmick to sucker dialup user into their cashing in on desperation for faster expensive alternative |
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 iansltx
join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO | reply to fiberguy Just to throw in my 2¢, WB's latency is off the charts compared with anything else I've seen. Even an overloaded WiSP conection. Dialup is downright low-latency in comparison, with pings around 200-250 ms in my experience. |
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 hottboiinnc ME
join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH | reply to me1212 Re: What good is up to 18m if you cannot use it?
What is Millenicom going to do with the money? they don't have any network at all. Everything is resold. I also called them about getting service with them and found their "CSR" to be a little rude along with the rest of the staff. |
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 hottboiinnc ME
join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH | Sprint Broadband Direct.
With all this money going to broadband why doesn't anyone start a service like Sprint's old Broadband Direct service they slowly got rid of? I'm sure they have the equipment still up and would be willing to sell it. |
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 DoubleK Doublek
join:2003-03-04 Beloit, WI clubs:
·AT&T Midwest
·Charter Pipeline
| Here is a thought!
I understand the complexity and cost of rolling fiber out to everyone's homes but how about building the 21st century information "interstate" much like my grandfather helped build the 20th century interstate?
Thought: lay all the main trunks down and let municipalities have access to it when they sell bonds or what have you or give access to parties with a private interest in access, ie gas stations and such.
This way you are using the federal muscle to shed these cross country pipes that only 5 major players own and control? Give what money is left over to municipalities as low interest development loans.
OH YEAH! We don't have lobbyists on our side seeking the same future we hope for otherwise we would have 100 new nuclear power plants and my elderly neighbors could afford their power and light bills. |
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 hottboiinnc ME
join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
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| nuclear power plants have been put on hold in the United States. None of them have been built in years and they're not even extending any licenses to keep current ones going after they're suppose to shut down.
Also we see what local governments do with money, especially now days. They can't budget their money now so why do we want to give them anymore?
Also for your elderly neighbors and their power bills, there are programs that they can sign up for to help with their electric and gas, and telephone bills. They should consider looking into them. |
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  Opticwonders Premium join:2009-03-31 united state
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| All is good until they oversell
Wildblue was perfectly fine until they oversold their network. They simply have more customers than they can technologically handle.
On another note -- WOW! 18mbps. Sounds better than some local cable providers, too bad the latency still stinks. |
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  insomniac84
join:2002-01-03 Schererville, IN | reply to fiberguy Re: 1500/256 has 17 GB down cap & 5 GB up cap
Latency is higher and the value plan has an average download speed of 23.7kbps (threshold per 30 days broken down into kbps). This is really nothing great and definitely way overpriced. |
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