xrobertcmx
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join:2001-06-18
Sterling, VA
clubs: 
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Comcast
| It would be nice, but...
While I can appreciate the intent and would welcome a third player. Powerlines are not designed for this, and the service does not appear to be able to deliver the necessary speeds to compete.
If rural broadband is the issue why not simply invest this money into some kind of point to point wireless or 3g network.
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Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
·Comcast
 ·Embarq
|  Why try to do broadband on the cheap!
 The power companies have the right of way, the poles, the trucks and the personnel to install fiber. Rather than trying to do broadband on the cheap, the government could provide some stimulus money to the power cooperatives to install the necessary equipment and deliver real broadband to rural subscribers. Many years ago I watched the telephone company install about a mile of 200 pair aerial cable a week. The project was part of a project to convert from ten party service to one and two party service. I believe that fiber can be installed much faster. |
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mrkevin
Knowledge comes, but wisdom lingers.
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join:2007-08-07
Aurora, ME
clubs:
 ·US Cellular
 ·Dish Network
 ·magicjack.com
·Rivah.net
| electrical stimulation
Why not? everyone else is.
Telephone companies: a provider of voice grade communications now offer internet.
Cable companies: a provider of premium television service now offer internet
cellular companies: a provider of cellular voice communications now offer internet
Why not the power companies?
then they will qualify for some of the Obama Bucks.
hands will be out everywhere. |
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mrkevin
Knowledge comes, but wisdom lingers.
Premium
join:2007-08-07
Aurora, ME
clubs: | reply to Mr Matt
Re: Why try to do broadband on the cheap!
The power companies don't have the personnel. splicing fiber is not like splicing power lines.
You're right about one thing...It wouldn't be cheap. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | Is deploying expensive repeaters that use lossy powerlines any cheaper? |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
·PenTeleData
·Future Nine Corpor..
·VOIPo
·Vonage
| reply to mrkevin
Re: electrical stimulation
Powerlines weren't designed for communications. They were designed to carry electricity.
Anything above a certain frequency would cause lots of interference.
Sending data over powerlines is like trying to send water through a pipe made of rolled up paper. Lots of messy leakage everywhere |
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Simba7
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Don't you mean paper towl tubes? |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | It's a bit worse than that I'm afraid. |
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jadebangle
Premium
join:2007-05-22
Olathe, KS | reply to Eat Me
using gas or water pipeline for internet are much more effective
cost effective and much safer then electric
/sarcasm  |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to mrkevin
Re: Why try to do broadband on the cheap!
said by mrkevin  :The power companies don't have the personnel. splicing fiber is not like splicing power lines. You're right about one thing...It wouldn't be cheap. Same style of specialized work/trade, same amount of training, same salary. Being a power company lineman isn't a training video and a 1 week "trial"/intern period, neither is a fiber splicer. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | reply to jadebangle
Re: electrical stimulation
Its not sarcasm, your right
»www.google.com/tisp/ |
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DoubleK
Doublek
join:2003-03-04
Beloit, WI
clubs:
·AT&T Midwest
·Charter Pipeline
| Die! Die! Die!
In other words, DIE ALREADY BPL! |
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| It could have some potential.
I don't see BPL competing against FIOS and DOCSIS 3.0, but it may actually be able to deliver 1.5 Mbps DSL-like speeds to people who now only have dialup.
I don't know much about the technology behind it, but if it is less distance-sensitive then DSL, this could be used to connect Kansas farms to the internet.
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| I though you Staked it's heart
Scaaa reeeem it is the BPL Vampire out to suck cash. |
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
·SONIC.NET
·RoadRunner Cable
·Verizon Online DSL
| Leave BPL alone!
Maybe this is what Barack means by "Smart Grid"?
Seriously, if it can be deployed at rates competitive with WISP service, why not let the power companies go for it, so long as public money is not involved?
DSLR forum elites may poo-poo 256K symmetrical, but it IS broadband, and it is sufficient for any justified application, so long as it reliable and "always on".
Power companies are going to be more apt to raise and risk capital chasing elusive rural profits than locals are to form a WISP coop, and the last-mile infrastructure is mostly already in place.
I don't hold out much hope for BPL - every piece of gear I've evaluated in the past 20 years that attempts to mate power and data burned out in less than a year; X10 gear (no, not broadband!) typically burns up within 5 years.
It will probably always be a weak niche, but so what?
Why wish it dead? |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| said by elray :DSLR forum elites may poo-poo 256K symmetrical, but it IS broadband, and it is sufficient for any justified application, so long as it reliable and "always on". Might as well get 2 ISDN pairs. Always on, and reliable under PSC rules. |
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zed260
join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN | reply to patcat88
Re: electrical stimulation
lol that was last years april fools joke from google fyi |
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funchords
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
·Verizon Online DSL
·Skype
| reply to Eat Me
said by Eat Me :Powerlines weren't designed for communications. They were designed to carry electricity. The phone lines were not designed to carry digital data, but now they do.
The Cable TV system was not designed to carry digital data, but now it does.
Sending data over powerlines is like trying to send water through a pipe made of rolled up paper. Lots of messy leakage everywhere I can't speak to that directly, but it probably has to be bad before it can become good. That's the way progress works.
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jay_rm
join:2002-04-12
Netville
·Fox Valley Internet
·ViaTalk
1 edit | Hola Amigo_Boy
Paging Amigo_Boy...
Time to jump in and pump your favorite broadband delivery method. Oh, and trash talk amateur radio...
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DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
Metairie, LA
clubs: | One way to look at it
Its not so much that BPL wont die but rather traditional broadband fails to live up to expectations. |
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