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Comments on news posted 2009-05-04 13:40:33: The Los Angeles Times profiles Friedhelm Hillebrand, the father of the short messaging service (SMS) or text message. ..

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benc
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Text Messages Cost $1,342,177.28 per GB

1GB = 1,073,741,824 bytes

1,073,741,824 bytes / 160 bytes per SMS = 6,710,886.4 SMS

6,710,886.4 SMS * $.20 per SMS = $1,342,177.28 per GB

Absolutely disgusting!

OK, so no one will ever send over 6 million SMS messages in a single month. Yet an unlimited SMS option costs $20 / mo. So that's $20 for less than 1GB of data transfer.

They could charge $.01 per SMS, or $1/mo. for unlimited SMS and still have a huge markup.

With the advent of mobile Internet, and the ability to use mobile E-mail, there is no more reason to use SMS messages. For contacts without mobile E-mail, you can use an E-mail to SMS gateway.


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5 cents for outgoing text messages
Free incomming
No additional monthly charge!


JasonOD

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reply to benc
You don't have to text BTW. This is a value add and it would be bad business if they didn't try to obtain maximum revenue. It also provides some cash-flow stability. If there is a competitive or market driven reason for them to not charge so much, they won't. And it's not like other industries don't do this. Ink is a major cash cow for the printer industry. Overages may be the next cash cow for the Telco's and Cableco's as well.


Notevenclose

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Virtually nothing?

Um yeah..

I guess the tower leases are free,
the spectrum is free,
handset subsidies are free,
antennas are free,
cables running down the tower are free,
equipment at the base of the tower is free,
the T1s servicing the sites are free,
fuel for the backup generator is free,
electricity is free,
the cable to get your call back to the office is free,
the computers in the office to route your call are free,
the T1's to route your call back out are free,
all of the same equipment at the other site is free,
cell site techs work for free,
digital techs (works on the T1s) work for free,
office techs work for free,
vehicles for the field techs are free,
fuel for those vehicles is free,
tools are free,
training for the techs is free,
customer service reps work for free,
your bills are free to print,
postage for your bills is free,
payment processing centers are free.

There is a cost to build and operate this network and it is supported by charging for text messages.

B


chevyrul0991

@ssa.gov

...

why would I charge you 20$ when I can get 200$ from you? Sure I may lose a few of you, but who cares...

good job cell companies. People will pay it, charge it. I dont mind paying 20$/month, I use the hell out of it.

Do I wish it was cheaper? Yah. Is it worth 20$ to me? Yah. Is it worth it to you? Well are you paying it?

gopnick

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ugh, not this again

People who complain about high SMS fees are normally the folks who pay for it. Stop paying for it, and they'll have to charge less to attract customers.

The other side of that are folks who don't use it, and, for some odd reason, don't want other folks to use it either. They're called fascists.

This has been a public service announcement from gopnick.


pnh102
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Shrug

If you find the margins on texting to be objectionable, then block it.
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thevorpal

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said by pnh102 See Profile :

If you find the margins on texting to be objectionable, then block it.
Except for the few of us that view it as ridiculous.

I average about 3 incoming text messages per month. I have never sent a single outgoing text message.

Of those three, 1-2 are typically sent by some fucking automated system that the guy who had this number before me signed up for.

I need to receive those single digit count messages, but getting charged for the ones that were sent to me in error is driving me nuts. I pay more for erroneous text messages than I do for the messages I receive.

So do I block it? No, that 1-2 I receive are typically very important.

Do I pay $5/month? No, I don't need that plan.

So I get stuck with the bill from a company that is trying to force me to pay for more than I need on a service that costs them nothing.


jmn1207
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Fantastic

It's such a lucrative service that surely it will create a ton of competition all clamoring to provide text messaging at a more affordable cost to the consumer. Oh yeah...


unmpldngmjr

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Re: Shrug

Do you know what an "if, then" fallacy is? Well your post is one, look it up and write a 5 page report on why you should never use logical fallacies.


canesfan2001

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reply to JasonOD
Re: Text Messages Cost $1,342,177.28 per GB

You don't have to text, but for those of us who know we're getting ripped off, educating others can help lower our costs.
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jmn1207
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reply to unmpldngmjr
Re: Shrug

Pointing out logical fallacies in a comment always ruins the discussion. Er...wait...I meant...


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And cell phone company's claim they are broke?


JoeG4

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Re: Shrug

I think everyone should get together and boycott phone companies.


jmn1207
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said by JoeG4 See Profile :

I think everyone should get together and boycott phone companies.
Good idea, I'll be sure to call all of my friends and let them know.


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Re: ugh, not this again

said by gopnick See Profile :

People who complain about high SMS fees are normally the folks who pay for it. Stop paying for it, and they'll have to charge less to attract customers.

The other side of that are folks who don't use it, and, for some odd reason, don't want other folks to use it either. They're called fascists.

This has been a public service announcement from gopnick.
People that don't use it, but don't want others to use it are playing "dog in the manger."


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reply to gopnick
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People who complain about high SMS fees are normally the folks who pay for it. Stop paying for it, and they'll have to charge less to attract customers.
The diabolical part of it is the social implications of not subscribing. No unlimited texts = antisocial cheapskate!
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Our company uses AIM to connect via offices etc and when you are offline they are sent to your phone via text messages.

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Re: Text Messages Cost $1,342,177.28 per GB

said by benc See Profile :

Absolutely disgusting!
Wait a minute . . . where is it written that the price for a service must be proportional to it's cost?

In business-terminology it's called "value based pricing". It's where a business wants to be . . . would you rather be in the cellular business right now, or a commodity business, like the airlines where margins are so low and costs so high, they're forced to be closer to cost-based pricing?


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Re: Shrug

said by unmpldngmjr :

Do you know what an "if, then" fallacy is? Well your post is one, look it up and write a 5 page report on why you should never use logical fallacies.
It is only a logical fallacy when the statement itself is indeed false. There are many ways one can protest being "ripped off" by paying for texts. Choosing not to pay for them is one of those ways.
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