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Comments on news posted 2009-05-05 10:08:12: Back in 2007, our resident Qwest users noticed that the telco had changed its "excessive use policy," or "EUP". ..

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mob
On the next level..
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join:2000-10-07
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·SureWest Internet

3GB a month, slightly more?

Sure. As long as there are no driver mega patches, security updates, etc.

God forbid you need to download service packs 1-??.
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sphinxguy18
Premium
join:2008-01-13
Dallas, TX
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

BS

This is BS that any ISP is going to put in a monthly CAP for anything. Also I love how they put in there that their 1 - 3GB cap is slightly under what business do!! I'm sorry, I am an IT Director at a small company (35 Desktops) and we use tons more bandwidth then lets say 5GB/month.

Just our website alone (which is everyone's home page) does about 8GB's a month! So I think it is BS and hope that Qwest goes down hard for this!!!

That's my comment, and I am sticking to it!


hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
kudos:1

my god

Qwest must be F* crazy.

Im guessing my theory was correct about these ISP smoking blunts.

Whats next qwest bail out money? after you kick about everyone off your network.


snipper_cr
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL

SAT?

Doesnt Satellite have higher FAPs than this? This is crazy. I stayed in dorms last year where we were given 2GB a DAY. With the advent and push for internet TV, even 1 person in a family watching ONE show is going to go over that pretty quickly. I hate to see an average 4 person family consisting of your typical gamer, researcher, downloader and casual user.
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The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
PPL/CPL:IA;ASEL/AMEL. CFI:ASEL


Uncle Paul

join:2003-02-04
USA
kudos:1

Online TV viewing?

"Online TV video streaming of 1,000-3,000 30-minute shows each month"

Really, so you can get 1,000 - 3,000 30-Minute HD shows streamed and stay under the 3GB limit.. really?


Observer

@192.250.23.x

Incorrect news title

Karl, I am no fan of caps but your title is misleading. Qwest said "most customers consume 1-3 Gigabytes per month" - it did not say that 3 Gigabytes is excessive.

To guesstimate what they consider excessive, let's assume Qwest considers a "typically sized" Mp3 file to be 3 megabytes.
Then they say that downloading "40,000 to 80,000 typically sized MP3 music downloads in one month" is excessive.

40,000 * 3 megabytes = 120, 000 megabytes = 117.1875 gigabytes.

117 gigabytes != 3 gigabytes


jadebangle
Premium
join:2007-05-22
00000

reply to hayabusa3303

Re: my god

ATT is gonna implement caps too in june or july
Its coming hahaha

The cap are higher then tw but it still sucks
20gb-150gb depending on tier and type of service
1 dollar per gb overage extra charge
let say a tier with 20gb cap, you use 40gb billed 20 dollars more... This is absurd.
Why not offer metered tier instead of changing from unlimited to limited for all user?


beck
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join:2002-01-29
On The Road
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Reviews:
·Stablehost.com

Hmmmm

Well, I had Qwest for 5 months over the winter and did about 10-11 gig a month. That was without the backup they are now advertising. I wasn't doing anything excessive, and I don't believe that I'm actually a heavy internet user either.

When I was using Verizon Wireless EVDO, I had to be SO careful not to go over the 5 gig cap.
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But they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.


jadebangle
Premium
join:2007-05-22
00000

reply to sphinxguy18

Re: BS

I average about 10gb per day with 1.5mbps DSL
20gb per day with 3.0mbps
40gb per day with 6.0mbps

Even at 1.5mbit on DSL my consumption is about 300gb per month... I'm not a youtube yunkie which in my opinion is low quality, crappy video

Broadband is meant to be used as much as possible.

Anyone who only consume 1 to 3 GB is not a broadband user but a minority who is a dialup user and do not use broadband for video...

R62006

join:2006-05-03
Las Vegas, NV

Qworse

Setting CAPS on a DSL line WOW these companies are all about GREED for real.

amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
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·KCH Cable
·AT&T DSL Service

reply to Observer

Re: Incorrect news title

Wondered when somebody'd do that math...
Good point.

I thought it was a little misleading here too, although, to be fair, the quote about "most users" is absurd.

Maybe my use of anywhere from 25-125GB/month is normal.

Crooks, all of 'em. Agree that, although "caps" in general are silly, at LEAST Comcast has stepped up with a somewhat realistic stance on them.

You'd think that the phone companies would have NO such thing, esp. since, um, they already own a frak-ton of lines.

For years I've always thought they'd be the LAST ones to even consider such a thing.

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

reply to jadebangle

Re: my god

Isn't ATT breaking net neutrality? They use internet tv don't they? So I can watch all of their internet video I want, but only so much youtube/hulu/ect. I don't care what they say they are nothing but common criminals now! cable can get away wit hit because they don't use the internet for their video services, ATT(and other IPTV ISPs) do and if they have caps the are nothing but criminals.


klipko

join:2006-06-28
Portland, OR

reply to mob

Re: 3GB a month, slightly more?

said by mob:

Sure. As long as there are no driver mega patches, security updates, etc.

God forbid you need to download service packs 1-??.
Exactly what I was thinking... What if you want to DL Windows 7 or try out a few Linux distros. Will Qwest label you as an abuser?


tfrionli
Tom F.

join:2001-06-21
Kings Park, NY

comparative perspective

Let's say for the sake of argument you go to the supermarket to buy a 1/2 gallon of milk. If I go there, I expect to be able to get my one item in a timely fashion. I don't want to wait for 1 hour to get the milk. I run in, run out. So what the Providers have created is the express lane. ahhhhhh! ingenious..... an express lane.. I just want the 1/2 gal of milk. so, I get in, out quick.

If I am going to buy 5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 gallons of milk I would expect to wait at least five minutes more.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
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tfrionli

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

1 edit

DO they have any data?

If not how can they say that 3Gb is normal? What about windows updates? So if I were a qwest costumer and my pc got a virus and I have to take it in/get a new one I can sue them right if their cap locked me out right? I bet a lot of people use more than 3GB. I thought broad band was to use more and do more and get America ahead, do these ISPs want America to die? Well at least some ISPs(comcast) have un capped business packages, I think all should that way if you were willing to pay more you could get un caped.


kingdome74
Emotionally Unavailable
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Syracuse, NY
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·RoadRunner Cable

Email today from TW

I received an email this morning from Time Warner encouraging me to download movies from a paid site... this from the same company that wants to put a 5 GB cap on it customers. These ISP's just don't get it. If you run your mouth about all this speed don't be surprised when people turn on their computers and actually use it.
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Looking only at the negative is like looking through a prism in the dark


jadebangle
Premium
join:2007-05-22
00000

reply to R62006

Re: Qworse

said by R62006:

Setting CAPS on a DSL line WOW these companies are all about GREED for real.
»www.qwest.com/wholesale/pcat/territory.html

qwest is not even a competition to ATT, TW, and Comcast.

When ATT impose cap it is much more serious cause a lot more ppl are affected by it

if att and tw impose caps why would qwest not impose cap as well it seem like a disease spreading around
not to mention surewest and verizon maybe imposing cap as well if they see how much money others can squeeze out of their user without having to provide more to all of us.
most of us are paying more for faster tier so to pay for usage as well is as silly as for paying for gasoline or electricity. i would drop to the lowest tier and if they still charge more for usage i will just cancel service.
a lose lose situation for all company... charge by the byte is internet robbery.

these thieve love to steal from the poor but hopefully if we all cry foul they would be stopped before they even begin to start charging by the byte.


axiomatic

join:2006-08-23
Tomball, TX

It's not all us though....

Hey Quest,

Until you start blocking all of the advertisements/spam/malware and other junk running through my "tube" that is adding to my cap (and that I did not authorize to run across my line you need to shut the fuck up. MMMMMkay? It was you (and other companies like you) that wanted advertisements out the ass on everything so pucker up buttercup and start kissing my ass.


jefash

@ameritech.net

hmmm

if most people only use 1-3gb a month as they stated, why do the need to cap , i mean, if usage is soo low for the majority, wouldnt it just average out with the small amount of abusers?


battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

reply to sphinxguy18

Re: BS

So uhm did you read the story or follow along like a lemming?

"Qwest goes on to insist that most customers consume "1-3 Gigabytes per month," a number that is "slightly higher for business customers."

No where did they say anything about a 3GB Cap. Just that anything over 3GB is considered excessive usage compared to other customers.

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