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join:2001-06-24
Webster, NY
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| Re: I didn't know That is what I am thinking here in the Rochester area. If they have that kind of money, then why are they not upgrading their infrastructure here in Rochester ? I had thought right along that it would be Verizon that would take over Frontier...not the other way around ! | |
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2600
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Sterling Heights, MI | Re: I didn't know Good ol Verizon; cherry picking the most profitable areas.
For all people that are on the FiOS bandwagon, AND the "everyone deserves broadband everywhere" bandwagon; they are now a direct contradiction of each other. | |
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SexaT duorP
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| Re: I didn't know said by baineschile  :Good ol Verizon; cherry picking the most profitable areas. For all people that are on the FiOS bandwagon, AND the "everyone deserves broadband everywhere" bandwagon; they are now a direct contradiction of each other. Since when is FIOS the only broadband available?
Anyone who thought that FIOS was going to get rolled out to rural areas would be an idiot.
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ME
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Cleveland, OH | Re: I didn't know Many areas they're selling off are not rural. It's just coming down to VZ cherry picking who they want to service. | |
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Fort Wayne, IN | Re: I didn't know Maybe they think they are too good for us Hoosiers, and we'll have to pay more for something less.
At least, we may have a year to protest, not that we can avoid having inferior TV service and much slower internet.
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Sun Prairie, WI | Just like your precious Buckeye Cable does currently. | |
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ME
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Phillip M Dampier
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Rochester, NY
| said by Racerbob :That is what I am thinking here in the Rochester area. If they have that kind of money, then why are they not upgrading their infrastructure here in Rochester ? I had thought right along that it would be Verizon that would take over Frontier...not the other way around ! This is a stock transaction. Besides, Frontier is largely bad debt free, which has helped keep their stock price and dividends reasonable. There is a reason why the company doesn't spend money on infrastructure upgrades, and today was an example.
Frontier approached Verizon to do this deal, and Verizon's own bankers analyzed Frontier and determined they were healthy enough to pull this transaction off. They aren't saddled with the same investment debt Verizon is.
Stop the Cap! has service maps up to show people who is going where. Basically, if you are in the upper midwest and are in a rural area served by Verizon, you are soon going to be a Frontier customer. Northeastern customers are unaffected. In the southeast, North and South Carolina are most impacted.
In West Virginia, basically the vast majority of the state is going to be served by Frontier now.
In the Pacific Northwest, northern Washington and Idaho are impacted.
If you are looking for signals on what Frontier will do in Verizon service areas, traditionally look to Rochester, NY which is Frontier's largest market. They control most of the 585 area code. In Rochester, DSL remains the only option from the phone company, and it struggles to perform consistently. Time Warner eats them for breakfast on the broadband side. There are no concrete plans for fiber in Rochester, which means it's a safe bet it's unlikely in anyone else's future as far as Frontier is concerned. | |
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Go ahead, make my day
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Ocean Gate, NJ
| said by S_engineer :Frontier had that type of money laying around. They don't. This area will be back in Verizon's hands on the cheap in a few years time, after Verizon has reaped the benefits of this deal.
I feel sorry for anyone who is in Frontier's area. | |
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join:2003-05-28
Earth
clubs: | Re: I didn't know I wonder how many states are going to attach conditions to get the deal approved. It may prove intresting, considering in most of Charters WI operations, Verizon (was) the ILEC with Charter offering faster internet access. | |
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Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| said by TK Junk Mail :They don't. This area will be back in Verizon's hands on the cheap in a few years time, after Verizon has reaped the benefits of this deal. The deal will result in Verizon stockholders owning 66-71%, depending on the current share prices when the deal closes, of the new company after the dust settles. It won't have to go back to Verizon's hands...it won't really have left much. | |
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| Re: I didn't know VZ won't own any of the company. They want to get rid of the residential side (according to Karl) and always wanted to get rid of the Midwest region. VZ just wants out and they will get out. The states will pass it on through like they do everything else after they're paid off. | |
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Go Colts
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Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: I didn't know said by hottboiinnc :VZ won't own any of the company. I never said that they would own it. I said Verizon Shareholders. If Verizon ever did want to buy it back, they just wouldn't have to reach far to get it as their existing stock holders would already own 2/3-3/4 of Frontier. | |
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ME
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| Re: I didn't know that's still owning the shares, same diff. VZ will sell their shares just like MSN sold their shares of RR and Comcast a few years back.
VZ won't have anything to do with the company not even stock. It will all be gone to someone else and VZ will walk out dusting off their hands when this is all done. | |
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join:2008-08-06
Charlotte, NC
| To be precise, Frontier doesn't have these resources. Its an all stock transaction with Frontier issuing new shares (diluting current Frontier shareholders) with 100% of the new shares going directly to current Verizon shareholders.
The real bonus for Verizon is the transfer of 11,000 employees (and their attendant costs) and billions in debt attached to these operations. | |
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join:2007-08-01
Fort Wayne, IN
| I have yet to read about the total impact that this will have on those of us in Indiana who have Verizon FIOS. Will we be downgraded to service worse than we had with cable?
And, will we still be allowed to bundle and save money? Or, will we wind up paying more and getting less? I love the super-fast internet, FIOS TV is the best, and our two year contract is coming up for renewal. If upgrade/renew now, will it help ensure that we don't wind up with something far inferior to FIOS TV or FIOS internet? I wouldn't want another internet or TV provider even if the gave me a free Tivo for life.
Maybe Verizon service is so much in demand that they chose to play "eenie, meenie, minie, moe" to decide who would no longer get their superb TV and internet.
I don't know if or when any of the above will happen. But, if it does, will Comcast be gloating and preparing for an influx of new, and former, customers?
Or, is there nothing to worry about?
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Plano, TX
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| Re: Will We In Indiana Lose FIOS High Speed Internet & FIOS TV? Verizon sold off New Hampshire, Connecticut, and Delaware last year to Fairpoint. There were some FIOS customers in that group, but they didn't loose their FIOS service. However, from forum posts on here the service is horrible with hour long hold times and Fairpoint having a hard time even pulling up ex-FIOS customers. They renamed it to FAST (real original). I don't know much about Frontier, but hopefully it will be better for ex-Verizon customers than Fairpoint. | |
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| Re: Will We In Indiana Lose FIOS High Speed Internet & FIOS TV? said by dboswell :Verizon sold off New Hampshire, Connecticut, and Delaware last year to Fairpoint. All CT is AT&T except for part of one town (Greenwich) that is still part of Verizon. DE is all still Verizon also.
NH, VT, and ME were Verizon that got sold to Fairpoint last year. | |
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join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT | Re: Will We In Indiana Lose FIOS High Speed Internet & FIOS TV? Verizon is still in CT and moving into Stamford. | |
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1 edit | Re: Will We In Indiana Lose FIOS High Speed Internet & FIOS TV? said by Kommie :Verizon is still in CT and moving into Stamford. Hahahahhaha
Verizon had a part of Greenwich since 100 years ago New York Telephone's executives wanted phone service at their mansions in Greenwich. And SNET as a universal service company didn't exist yet in rural Connecticut.
Then again overbuilding into some parts of Fairfield county would be profitable for Verizon, but the area has a large amount of Uverse coverage, so that idea is dead. | |
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| said by Mark F :I have yet to read about the total impact that this will have on those of us in Indiana who have Verizon FIOS. Will we be downgraded to service worse than we had with cable? And, will we still be allowed to bundle and save money? Or, will we wind up paying more and getting less? I love the super-fast internet, FIOS TV is the best, and our two year contract is coming up for renewal. If upgrade/renew now, will it help ensure that we don't wind up with something far inferior to FIOS TV or FIOS internet? I wouldn't want another internet or TV provider even if the gave me a free Tivo for life. Maybe Verizon service is so much in demand that they chose to play "eenie, meenie, minie, moe" to decide who would no longer get their superb TV and internet. I don't know if or when any of the above will happen. But, if it does, will Comcast be gloating and preparing for an influx of new, and former, customers? Or, is there nothing to worry about? Mark F. Too early to tell on any of it. For the next ~year, nothing is going to change. Presuming after it gets approved, you'll just have to wait and see what happens. Frontier has zero experience with fiber triple play like what they are getting in some markets. It's unreasonable to expect that they have pricing or bundling information the day the potential merger is announced, especially when they have to go through an approval process with all sorts of local, state, and federal government organizations. | |
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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
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| Interesting It would seem that the fears of Ma Bell coming back together have been postponed for the time being.
I still wonder what will happen when Fairpoint runs out of money because of its acquisition of Verizon's former assets in New England though.
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Go ahead, make my day
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1 edit | said by pnh102 :I still wonder what will happen when Fairpoint runs out of money because of its acquisition of Verizon's former assets in New England though. What will happen is that Fairpoint will go broke and Verizon will take Fairpoint's area over again, and will probably get some kind of govt subsidy in the process. All this after Verizon reaped huge tax benefits from the Fairpoint deal. It's not a matter of if, but when. | |
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Jamaica, NY
| Re: Interesting said by TK Junk Mail :What will happen is that Fairpoint will go broke and Verizon will take Fairpoint's area over again, and will probably get some kind of govt subsidy in the process. All this after Verizon reaped huge tax benefits from the Fairpoint deal. It's not a matter of if, but when. NO WAY IN HELL.
Verizon's top brass is dedicated to broadband and TV business models. POTS and copper is a dead technology to them that must be killed with fire. POTS and regulated copper will never compete with VOIP on price and Verizon knows that and has given up on POTS and copper. The future is entertainment, proles will pay whatever it takes to see their sports in HD. | |
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| said by pnh102 :I still wonder what will happen when Fairpoint runs out of money because of its acquisition of Verizon's former assets in New England though. AT&T will probably buy their carcass for 10 cents on the dollar. | |
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| Re: Interesting said by Sammer :said by pnh102 :I still wonder what will happen when Fairpoint runs out of money because of its acquisition of Verizon's former assets in New England though. AT&T will probably buy their carcass for 10 cents on the dollar. Most likely, AT&T has made no attempts to ever sell off any of its POTS territories in history. Verizon has sold to Centurytel, Alltel, and Carlyle Group.
I'm guessing AT&T's strategy is along as there is some amount of profit, or it breaks even, its fine. For Verizon, if it isn't high profit, get it off the books because it makes the overall profit to gross revenue ratio look low. | |
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| Re: Interesting Well, yes and no. You have to go back to the days when it was SBC (remember that SBC bought AT&T, not the other way around) or maybe even Ameritech, but they did sell of some exchanges in Northeast Wisconsin that were geographically isolated from their main service areas. I don't recall who the purchaser was back then, but now those exchanges are apparently in the hands of CenturyTel. Marinette, Wisconsin was one of the affected exchanges. I don't recall exactly when this happened, but if I recall correctly it was right around the time that Verizon was formed, or maybe a bit earlier.
Before GTE merged to form Verizon, it spun off a bunch of exchanges in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, and CenturyTel now has those as well. It would not surprise me if in a few years, Frontier and CenturyTel merge their wireline operations - it would be a natural fit after the acquisition announced today is complete. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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| Re: Interesting Ameritech-Wisonsin was the carrier for Wisconsin then changed to SBC Wisconsin and then ATT.
When SBC started to take over is when they got rid of anything they deemed unprofitable at that time. Americast Cable was one of the items SBC didn't want to keep. Americast is now Wide Open West | |
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| Like serveral have already said, I am curious how the Fairpoint deal will affect this one. I would assume that the PSC Commisions of the various states would take a good hard look. Plus, with the Obama administrations in, I wonder what Justice and various agencies will say.
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| Re: Interesting I agree-the FCC voted to let it go through in Northern New England, and as I recall,the 2 votes in favor were Republicans, versus the one vote against who was a democrat. I am hoping under this new Obama regime Verizon will be blocked from pulling off the Reverse Morris Trust scam once again. Not only do they get rid of their dying land line business, they get rid of their union representation as well. But then, as happened here, money talks, and no matter whether the "new" company goes bankrupt or not, as appears to be the case here in New England and Hawaii, the excecs will walk away with their pockets full... | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
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1 edit | No Union? LOL. you have your union still at Fairpoint. Remember the Union is still crying over the issue and was the one complaining about the email issues. Which if one is smart they wouldn't use ISP email to start off with. Especially now days with all the buyouts and mergers and spinoffs. Gmail and Hotmail are free and you don't have to worry about them being gone in a day or two like you do with your ISP email.
But then again the Union's are the ones crying that they don't have the resources in FL to keep the pots networks up because all the money is going to FiOS. Co'mon Unions you can't have it both ways. You either want a job or you want to do rebuild a POTS network? Which is it?
that "news artcile" doesn't state anything about banktruptcy. Plus that can be a good thing for a company to shed some of its contracts with the companies that need to go. | |
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It's the in thing. | |
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Is your fiber grounded?
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| Re: Interesting said by Bit :Two words...government bail out You realize that's three words, right? | |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| Re: Interesting said by kyler13 :said by Bit :Two words...government bail out You realize that's three words, right? It was probably a talking point regurgitated from Fox News. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| said by pnh102 :I still wonder what will happen when Fairpoint runs out of money because of its acquisition of Verizon's former assets in New England though. Ultimatum to PSC to raise Caller ID and POTS prices. $10 caller ID is just the beginning, we can goto $15 or $20, you have no broadband to get VOIP, and Clear won't be here for 2 decades, and no cell carriers allow VOIP. | |
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Barsoom
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join:2002-12-08
Reno, NV | Re: Interesting At some price point, increasing Caller ID rates will generate diminishing returns as people begin to re-install answering machines as CID scanners. | |
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join:2004-01-06
Richmond, VA | hmm I guess no FIOS for Durham now. I thought that sign was funny. | |
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Bob61571
join:2008-08-08
Washington, IL
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| So, this is it? So, Verizon is dumping its Midwest (old GTE) territory, huh?
Wonder how the various FiOS users in: Portland OR, Ft. Wayne IN, Seattle WA area, will be handled?
Per list of states, "Arizona, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, South Carolina, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin . -- and some rural assets in California. "
Possibly like the Verizon-Fairpoint deal?
Per above, Verizon wireline will then be only in East Coast/parts of California, Texas then? | |
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ScottJr
join:2001-10-10
Charles Town, WV
·FrontierNet Intern..
| How to turn unprofitable markets to profitability Living in a Frontier market, I can say that these markets are going to see price increases fairly quickly after the deal closes. Frontier is allowed to price at any level. I know other markets do not have this, but my price for basic phone (local only) and 1.0/128 DSL is $100 per month. It is hard not to be profitable when you are making money like that. How they handle the new markets??? That is yet to be seen.
It would certainly be interesting and scary to see Verizon come back in and buy both Fairpoint and Frointier at firesale prices in 5 years. | |
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niblifar
join:2004-02-12
Ohio
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| What tiers do they offer? I hope I can get my 3 megabit connection for the same price.
Also I read some supposedly good reviews of them here, but they sure aren't comforting. Tales of mandatory modem fees and connection degradation issues bring no comfort to Verizon's betrayal.
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join:2002-04-05
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| Re: Maybe Frontier is getting: said by Mr Matt : Follow this link to see what Frontier might be getting from Verizon: » www.milorganite.com/home/Which proves that if you package it right you can sell S#&T. But thats not shit anymore. It was heavily processed. Then it was baked, and now its clean now. Thats comparing broken glass in the sand at the beach ready to cut your ankle and bleed you to death being turned into SM fiber. | |
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atuarre
Here come the drums
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Lake Charles, LA
clubs: | RE I am surprised that after they sold all these areas, that they did not sale off Texas as well. Must be profitable in Texas. | |
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cptmiles
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Swayzee, IN
| Verizon's plan - IMO I have said it before...Verizon will not own a single pair of copper by 2020. They will take this money and sink it into 4G (LTE) technology and take back all these territories wirelessly.
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| WHAT THE.................... Arizona, I see no VZ landline in Arizona.
Indiana and Oregon and Washington, what happens to FIOS, or only part of the state?
One other thing, why did Reno NV never get FIOS?
I guess all the states without FIOS, yeah, it was in the works for a long time to sell you. But the 3 FIOS states (IN, OR, WA), those confuse me. | |
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spewak
R.I.P Dadkins
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join:2001-08-07
Elk Grove, CA
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| Anything she says you need to take with the grain of salt! And I quote:
"This is a truly transformational transaction for Frontier," Frontier CEO Maggie Wilderotter said in a statement. "With more than 7 million access lines in 27 states, we will be the largest provider of voice, broadband and video services focused on rural to smaller city markets in the United States." Wilderotter insists she's "confident that we can dramatically accelerate the penetration of broadband in these new markets."
They will just bleed those Rural areas dry with their MegaSuperBlazing SLOW DSL lines and speed.
Guaranteed!
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@eerprogramming.com | Anything has to be better than Verizon I cant wait to get Frontier here in Ohio. Verizon cant even provide a working phone to most of its customers, let alone internet.
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join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
1 edit | Slanted reporting ..... While Frontier may "struggle" to deploy 3M, many of us in this soon-to-be former VZ territory would be thrilled with even a 10th of that.
Frontier has so far made >=1Mbps broadband available to 88% of its customers. Compare that to VZ's deployment of about 40%, according to DSL Prime. In my estimation, that makes Frontier a much better broadband company.
Of course, editorial writers tend to live in those small high-density areas where FIOS has been deployed, and go all ga-ga for this niche product that actually affects relatively few citizens. Verizon gets far more credit for getting into the TV business (their motivation for FIOS) than they deserve.
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brianstretch
join:2001-12-31
Ann Arbor, MI
| Mostly stock transaction, Frontier is getting in cheap From the press release:
»finance.yahoo.com/news/Frontier-···543.html
Verizon is getting $3.3B in cash to pay off the debt that Frontier is assuming from the spun off VZ territories. The rest is a stock transaction, no cash needed other than to pay the fairly high dividend. I'll let someone else dig into the numbers to figure out whether Frontier is going to pay out all of their profits in dividends or if they'll pick up enough cash flow to build FiOS-like FTTH networks. Either scenario is plausible. Frontier's depressed share price is probably just making the dividend payout look high. Smart management could do great things with this situation. Whether Frontier has smart management, well... dunno. | |
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Mark for moderation
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join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN
1 edit | Damn you to hell V Well so much for FiOS EVER coming to my area. 
And to those people that say Verizon doesn't cherry pick..well here you go, they do. | |
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join:2007-07-13
Middletown, NY
|  Frontier has struggled of late to deliver even 3Mbps...
3Mbps? Even with being very close to the fiber fed remote box at the corner Frontier can only offer me at best 1.5Mbps and speed tests show it is more like 0.9Mbps. They seem to have NO intention of upgrading anything in the Middletown, NY area. They would rather milk the dollars off the old gear and continue to jack up rates where ever they can. Frontier doesn't get it. They never will. | |
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join:2006-01-05 | Re: Frontier has struggled of late to deliver even 3Mbps... If they are running out of bonded t1 IMA groups then that is the problem. At Embarq, we are aggressively upgrading any bonded t1's to DS3's or preferably OC3's. | |
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Take me down to the paradise city
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