hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
 ·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| Won't be hard
It won't be hard to convince anyone. And how says they'll have to do it to start off with?
All VZ will do is pass around some money they'll get a few conditions and the deal will be done. Especially with Ohio and Michigan who will be glad to see VZ go and someone else take over.
Since GTE merged with VZ service went down hill and prices went up. |
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baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Verizon doesnt have a footprint at all in the metro detroit area, only more rural areas far north of Detroit. They were never going to do Fios here, so there is no point in keeping the system |
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rdmiller
join:2005-09-23
Richmond, VA | Why?
Does anyone understand why Verizon bought GTE in the first place? Never made any sense to me. |
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SuperJoker
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA | VZ and the California PUC
Verizon is a regulated Utility here in California for their landlines, I imagine the CPUC will get quite a few complaints/calls about this as word spreads. |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to hottboiinnc
Re: Won't be hard
said by hottboiinnc  :Since GTE merged with VZ service went down hill and prices went up. What hasn't gone up in the past decade. Looking back at their prices, you could get smoking fast 1.5mbit DSL for $215! Now I get 20/5 service for about $50/month. Then I could have gotten DirecTV's Total Choice Sports Package for around $40 that had over 100 (!!!) channels. Now I can get over 100 (!!!) HD channels, plus a few hundred Sd channels, VOD, etc for a little more. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
2 edits | timid PUCs
Well, timid PUCs will cave like a deck of cards when Verizon threatens to bribe the governor to fire all the PUC members, or hire detectives to find out how many of them are gay wife beaters or child molesters, or sue the state for human rights abuses, or just sue the state as long as it can and try to bankrupt its AG office until the state settles.
Also most PUC commissioners live off buzzwords and powerpoints, with transitions and gradients, and will rubber stamp anything with a catchy video and powerpoint.
Edit:
this video convince any typical PUC commissioner, most meet once a month for a day and just watch presentation from the regulatED.
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZb0avfQme8 |
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SuperJoker
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
·Verizon west (ex G..
| said by patcat88 :Well, timid PUCs will cave like a deck of cards when Verizon threatens to bribe the governor to fire all the PUC members, or hire detectives to find out how many of them are gay wife beaters or child molesters, or sue the state for human rights abuses, or just sue the state as long as it can and try to bankrupt its AG office until the state settles. Also most PUC commissioners live off buzzwords and power points, with transitions and gradients, and will rubber stamp anything with a catchy video and power point. That won't happen here, Our Govenator is rich enough already and a Bribe wouldn't work. |
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SuperJoker
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA
·Verizon Online DSL
·Verizon west (ex G..
| reply to cdru
Re: Won't be hard
said by cdru :said by hottboiinnc :Since GTE merged with VZ service went down hill and prices went up. What hasn't gone up in the past decade. Looking back at their prices, you could get smoking fast 1.5mbit DSL for $215! Now I get 20/5 service for about $50/month. Then I could have gotten DirecTV's Total Choice Sports Package for around $40 that had over 100 (!!!) channels. Now I can get over 100 (!!!) HD channels, plus a few hundred SD channels, VOD, etc for a little more. Oh lucky You. |
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cyclone_z
join:2006-06-19
Ames, IA | reply to rdmiller
Re: Why?
They wanted GTE's wireless assets, so they could become the biggest wireless carrier. |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to SuperJoker
Re: Won't be hard
said by SuperJoker :Oh lucky You. Even if I didn't have FiOS, the same argument applies. Current DSL rates are $20/30/43 per month for 1/3/7.1 service. All far less then what they were a decade ago. And if you don't have FiOS available, the price of TV through Verizon hasn't really changed as it's still not available to you. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to baineschile
VZ offers service in south eastern MI as well. Former GTE areas. In Blissfield they actually have a CLEC that is deploying VDSL IPTV to compete against them. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to cdru
and with VZ areas still pay out the ass for DSL. Try ~$50 for basic in some areas of Ohio. VZ rapes their customers and makes the cities they service to find other service providers that are willing to service. |
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SuperJoker
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA
·Verizon Online DSL
·Verizon west (ex G..
1 edit | reply to cdru
said by cdru :said by SuperJoker :Oh lucky You. Even if I didn't have FiOS, the same argument applies. Current DSL rates are $20/30/43 per month for 1/3/7.1 service. All far less then what they were a decade ago. And if you don't have FiOS available, the price of TV through Verizon hasn't really changed as it's still not available to you. Who says I even want TV through VZ? I like Dish Network very much thank you.
VZ customer service has been a nightmare. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Id pick anything over Telco TV any day. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| reply to SuperJoker
Re: VZ and the California PUC
The people should actually be thanking Frontier for wanting the service areas. VZ doesn't want them and would rather see them rot. Hell they'd rather pull the plug all together if they could.
I don't see what the big issue of being sold to someone else. If the other provider is willing to give it a shot then they should be given that option without everyone having a big fit about it. Especially the damn Unions who cry about every damn thing. In FL they cry because VZ is taking the money away from the POTS networks and giving it to the FiOS network and they're unable to do their job but when someone wants to come and show they can do it they cry about that. |
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SuperJoker
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA
·Verizon Online DSL
·Verizon west (ex G..
1 edit | said by hottboiinnc :The people should actually be thanking Frontier for wanting the service areas. VZ doesn't want them and would rather see them rot. Hell they'd rather pull the plug all together if they could. I don't see what the big issue of being sold to someone else. If the other provider is willing to give it a shot then they should be given that option without everyone having a big fit about it. Especially the damn Unions who cry about every damn thing. In FL they cry because VZ is taking the money away from the POTS networks and giving it to the FiOS network and they're unable to do their job but when someone wants to come and show they can do it they cry about that. We'll see what happens I guess. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| reply to SuperJoker
Re: timid PUCs
Your Govenator is the one who gave ATT tax breaks to wire the state and we see well that went out there. The money that they could have used for something else. Now CA is one of the poorest states in the country.
Hell the City of Fresno has more money than the entire state that says something about your state gov't they don't give a SHIT and the issue will pass without a problem.
But as far as hiring people VZ won't threaten that. They'll just pay off the PUCs directly. the PUCs have never heard a deal from the Telco's they never liked. They're like the former FCC Chairman. |
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Dolgan
Premium
join:2005-10-01
Sun Prairie, WI | reply to rdmiller
Re: Why?
They wanted GTE's backhaul capacity--which is the same reason they bought out MCI. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to SuperJoker
Re: VZ and the California PUC
yah it will be approved and everything will go one.
if you have VZ now id get rid of their email addresses since it will change as well. |
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SuperJoker
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA
·Verizon Online DSL
·Verizon west (ex G..
| said by hottboiinnc :yah it will be approved and everything will go one. if you have VZ now id get rid of their email addresses since it will change as well. I already did that over a year ago. So no sweat. |
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